有無大人學緊小提琴? 一齊交流下!

cheapbombom

wootaitai,

係咪黑色細細粒個種?
上星期老師加左一粒比啊女用, 佢話佢拉琴太大聲...
我又唔覺可以細聲好多喎...

原帖由 wootaitai 於 09-10-20 22:41 發表
Oh, you have to get a practice mute.... otherwise impossible to practice. And my husband would be yelling at me!

So everynight after my kids sleep its my practice time and I really enjoy it!

Weekend ...

cheapbombom

wootaitai,

真的嗎? 我真係未聽過有這樣東西, 咁真係天大既喜訊啦, 因為, 平時一到十點, 就算有時間, 都練唔到琴....我日頭要返工, 都無理由可以做到一踏入門口就練左琴先...

通常食完飯, 教完啊女功課, 自己再沖涼, 十點都起碼...係咪琴行就有得賣? 等我聽日去買先..

另, 今晚去左大會堂, 聽悉尼交響樂團, 幾十位小提琴手坐係我前面拉琴, 一個2個持弓既手勢, 拉琴既模樣好迷人啊...又激發起我努力練琴先得...

我同事笑我, 由ni一刻, 不眠不休, 拉到自己死去個刻, 可能都唔會有台上音樂家既造詣....

的確......我同事雖然講笑, 但我都知台上班樂手, 可能係幾經過幾十年既努力...

原帖由 wootaitai 於 09-10-23 23:19 發表
the small thing is a normal mute for orchestras for a "softer effect"

you have to get a big practice mute that clamps on to the bridge - the bigger the better - it reduces the noise by 50%! you can p ...

cheapbombom

wootaitai,

Is it available in HK? Otherwise, could you do me a favor to order one for me too?

Big thanks!

原帖由 wootaitai 於 09-10-24 00:04 發表
Re practice mutes - mind you it makes your violin sound like 鼻賽 especially metal ones. And you cannot hear your tone properly

So I ordered one from the internet through my friend in the states, a b ...

cheapbombom

Hi Wootaitai,

Honestly, my daughter is rather lazy in practing violin, perpahs only 2-3 times per week.  I always wonder if she's really interested in learning violin.

I asked her serveral times if she wants to quit, but she simply refused to do so.  At this moment, our teacher says her talent in violin is better than me.

However, attitutde is everything.  I am lost how to motivate her practice more, in particular the new teacher is indeed very deaminding.

In the past, I never listened to the VCD of the songs that I ought to play in lesson.  But now, I have to listen to the techiques and follow their performing style before I go to lesson.  I animate almost 90% but my teacher still says I have room for improvement.  Frankly speaking, I feel a bit frastrated because no matter how hard I tried, my teacher is not satisfied.

I am glad that my teacher is good.  I need to beef up my ability to meet her standard.  It's tough but luckily I enjoy it.

Let's keep it up!

原帖由 wootaitai 於 09-10-23 23:45 發表
快D買la！should be available in most places

but I think kids really do learn much faster. My daughter has been practising the exam songs only for a while and stopped practising other songs in the suzuk ...

Sindy

原帖由 cheapbombom 於 09-10-24 12:29 發表
no matter how hard I tried, my teacher is not satisfied.

你可以咁諗,佢責任係話你知,有乜要改,如果你可以樣樣都做到既話,仲駛乜學琴啫,所以當然會有唔妥啦.......所以唔好比呢樣野困擾你呀...加油

cheapbombom

Hi Sindy,

Tks for your encouragement!

I practiced a lot more compared with before and I realize the outcome is totally different.  The more I practice, the more I love the song and viloin.

Perhaps the new teacher is right, play 1-2 songs VERY VERY well every lesson is more important to learn 5-6 new songs everytime but students cannot fully pick up the techniques they ae supposed to learn from the music piece.

原帖由 cheapbombom 於 09-10-24 12:29 發表
Hi Wootaitai,

Honestly, my daughter is rather lazy in practing violin, perpahs only 2-3 times per week.  I always wonder if she's really interested in learning violin.

I asked her serveral times if  ...

Sindy

原帖由 cheapbombom 於 09-10-24 14:02 發表
Hi Sindy,

Tks for your encouragement!

I practiced a lot more compared with before and I realize the outcome is totally different.  The more I practice, the more I love the song and viloin.

Perhaps  ...

係呀,學好個技巧好重要,即係我女咁,佢而家唔係學好多歌,亦都唔流暢架....但技巧學到,所以拉到出黎既同以前好唔同....我覺得,首歌順唔順,只係要表演時先咁重要啫....(我好阿q)........學好技巧,要流暢時咪練多d囉.....

cheapbombom

I have violin lesson this evening.  There're only 1 song for me to play for this whole week.  I have confident that I don't need to replay but eventually, I need to practice for another week.

Actually, my previous teacher taught me this song and she didn't ask me to replay.  However, the new teacher asked me to play it to her and she's still not satisfied.  The same situtation applies to my daughter.  We both learn 1 song and keep for practising for 1 month.

I can tell the new teacher is really demanding.  She told me that if you cannot play a Grade 2 song well, you cannot play a Grade 5 song well no matter how fast you learn.  The speed is not important.  You need to pick up the technique to a full extend before you proceed further.

I brought the VCD and even though my performance is really close to the demo, there're still rooms for improvement.

原帖由 Sindy 於 09-10-24 15:11 發表


係呀,學好個技巧好重要,即係我女咁,佢而家唔係學好多歌,亦都唔流暢架....但技巧學到,所以拉到出黎既同以前好唔同....我覺得,首歌順唔順,只係要表演時先咁重要啫....(我好阿q)........學好技巧,要流暢時咪練多d囉.. ...

[ 本帖最後由 cheapbombom 於 09-10-24 22:11 編輯 ]

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Wootaitai,

I went to Tom Lee this evening and they don't have the rubber mute.  Eventually, I brought it for HK$80 at the place where I learn violin.

My teacher said that she never use this stuff before.  Instead, she think the small mute is already good enough for her to practice at night time.

My niece attended the lesson with us as she is also searching for a new teacher.  However, she didn't like my teacher as she said she cannot tolerate practing one song for 1 month, that is really true.

原帖由 cheapbombom 於 09-10-24 22:09 發表
I have violin lesson this evening.  There're only 1 song for me to play for this whole week.  I have confident that I don't need to replay but eventually, I need to practice for another week.

Actuall ...

cheapbombom

You're the 1st one who gives me a 2nd thought on practicing....

Same as learning piano, I used to learn at least 3-4 songs every lesson.  But now I am stunned that I can only learn one song and worst still, I need to spend 1 month on it.  It's unbelievable!

Yesterday, a very famous voilin master I know (but he doesn't teach me) gave me a book on how to learn violin well.  Actually the book is written by a mother who's son is now the most famous violinist in China.  (close friend to the pianist Long Long).  I read 1/5 in one night.  

The violin master repeated the key message - it's not necessary to practice a lot of songs, concentrate on one piece and pursuit 100% perfect....must have good foundation, spend 75% of your time in practicing the scale in regardness of your level.

It gives me new thoughts.  I begin to accept my new teachers' methodologists in teaching violin.

I'm glad that I can share with you coz I have no friends of my age that learn violin.

原帖由 wootaitai 於 09-10-25 00:39 發表
my daughter is actually quite fond of practicing and she likes the joy of playing some new songs.

But she hates it when I point out the mistakes... “吾好投訴la。。。” and then she will be very angr ...

cheapbombom

Perhpas you're a good model for her.  

How old is your daughter? How long/how often will she practice every time?

Yesterday I practiced viloin for over 1 hour and she follows me.  But this phenomom doesn't occur frequently.

原帖由 wootaitai 於 09-10-25 00:39 發表
my daughter is actually quite fond of practicing and she likes the joy of playing some new songs.

But she hates it when I point out the mistakes... “吾好投訴la。。。” and then she will be very angr ...

rookiemom

可否告訴我書名和作者？謝謝！

原帖由 cheapbombom 於 09-10-25 08:02 發表
You're the 1st one who gives me a 2nd thought on practicing....

Same as learning piano, I used to learn at least 3-4 songs every lesson.  But now I am stunned that I can only learn one song and worst ...

cheapbombom

My teacher shares the same thoughts with me.  She believes foundation is everything.  However,   many parents just focus on the outcome nowadays.  They request that their children must reach X grade after X years.  Or she/he needs to get at least XX marks otherwise i will change teacher.

My teacher doubts if "genius" really exists.  Most famous vilionst have a tough road and they practice for over 6-8 hours per day at least.  It's easy to teach a children to get high marks coz they can just concentrate on practising 3 songs.  However, they have weak foundation.  But most parents still press for the result and they are short-sighted.  Frankly speaking, they're copying machine and they don't really enjoy music.

For adult learners like me, I wish to enjoy music first.  Exam is just a by-product.  

I'm glad that the change of violin teacher helps me think about the meaning of learning violin.  

原帖由 wootaitai 於 09-10-25 23:47 發表
yes, totally agree on the pts on the book you mentioned. I am glad I am learning it and can really help my daughter by understanding the problems first hand.

When I accompany my daughter to competiti ...

小伊

Your teacher doubts if "genius" really exists?  Can you image a 5 year-old baby playing Spanish Symphony "WELL? Most of children can't do it after learning 10 years.