DG定SPCC好？

yanpama

原文章由 merrydad 於 07-12-21 05:37 發表
見微知處
Just want to share some experience

女拔交表日：
老師們大都相當「嚴肅」，即冇乜笑容，交表時對家長提問回答是一句起兩句止，予人名校果然寧舍不同的感覺。朋友女兒除了成績表外未有準備profile，該收表的老師說： ...

I so appreciate your open-minded attitude.  I have come across with so many parents who would not take a word against their kids' schools.  
Other than "famous" and good academic results, I think quality parents and schoolmates, modesty and integrity are also very important for choosing school for children. As BillieBug said, ability does not mean everything.  

Anyone can comment on the peers (both parents and kids) of the two schools?

thanks!

piyopiyohoho

Hi 美人一號,

Ha Ha, at last, you've got the same problem as mine (DGS vs SPCC and DBS vs SPCC). The question has tortured me for a week and I am sure it will go on for the coming 6 months. 所以都唔知應唔應該恭喜你好.

I couldn’t agree more with the observations and comments about SPCC from Merrydad, billiebug, sc mother and zhuma. If I have to give up SPCC, I may even feel guilty for declining Ms Lee who has been very sincere throughout the process from the briefing session to the 2nd in. People say SPCC is a 貴族學校 (in fact it is - especially if you know whose grandchild will be attending G1 in 2008/09), 但貴族得來有品, 所以我服得五體投地 and I am confident that my son will not be treated unfairly just because he comes from an ordinary family. I have also had some less-than-happy experience regarding the attitude of DBS staff. I am sure most will feel the same from DGS girls and DBS boys (esp. boys) that they are a bit “吋”, though one may interpret that as enthusiastically confident. That said, I haven’t made up my mind as DBS does have some qualities one may not be able to find from SPCC.

If I remember correctly, you also have a younger son. Ms Lee did ask us during the 2nd in if my son has any siblings. There is a very good chance that your son will also be accepted by SPCC.  Physical environment of the campus does matter, in particular for children in their early childhood. Last but not least, I would say boys in a boys’ school are “Oker” than girls in a girl school.

Anyway, I think you have already chosen. You are simply asking for a little more encouragement to convince yourself. Here you are - if I had a daughter, I would choose SPCC.

美人一號

hoho,billie

肯定一點，就係spcc的收生中，不乏你們這些傾得來的nice parent！
billie應該係揀spcc了，你呢hoho？你似乎仲多野考慮過我

Sweetsmile1

美人一號,
To understand more, I visited both schools for a few times to observe the students, parents and school staff.  I share same view of Merrydad on DGS Vs SPCC and with more of my experience that is not good to quote.  I keep on asking myself which one I like.  Based on our child character, our wish of her personality, the style of our 13-year partners - teachers and other parents (no good or bad and not for all), I can get my answer before I was informed to have 2nd interview.

However, I can also see DGS in another angle - girls are competitive, bossy and inch because the school intends to develop them like this and the training is effective and successful.  They are self-discipline & confidence with good results.  i.e. DGS as good as SPCC.  Only thing I suggest is to arrange extra course to develop their interpersonal skills for balance growth.

If you still not make up your mind, try to go to both school for 20 - 30 min, stand silent and observe what they are doing and how they interact each other, maybe, you will find your answer.

If u decide, let's know & c if we can be classmate parents.
Hope Merrydad's girl can go to SPCC because I knew oneof my friends already give up SPCC.

I like the parents in this topics - nice, humble & rationale.

Albatross

A friend of mine (in the 40s) got married with a DGS graduate. He told me this experience the other day.

One year, the couple went to a reunion of his wife's classmates. One third of the classmates were married, about half having kids. For others, they were either divorced or single.

I have worked/met with some DGS graduates. The percentage of the first class is lower.

Guess they are too smart to live with stupid males.

巴菲特

Only concern is:

女拔中學排名向來高，甚至高過spcc！

merrydad

我常覺得此類排名很壟統，只計會考的多優生成績，十優生多並不代表一切，整體成績才重要，而整體成績相信SPCC/DGS都不相伯仲。不過真的要說排名，你也可參考：
http://www.singtao.com/yesterday/edu/0809go04.html

去年DGS其實未有出到一個十優生，是否代表學校水準忽然低了？SPCC倒是共有2男1女有十優。當然不可以這樣計。

值得給你參考的是，文中這位從國內到港於無名氣的學校去考插班的女學生，其實都曾經去插班考DGS但未有被取錄。反而常予人貴族的SPCC取錄了她，可見學校愛材之心未有計較背景，這名女學生是我親戚的女兒，她對SPCC評價極高，不只是學術成就，校內氣氛更是人人平等。

sumyinmama

merrydad,
小女情況同你囡囡情況一樣﹗   我都好鍾意SPCC，不過都係 waiting﹗ 你會唔會期待住SPCC 既好消息呢？
sumyinmama

merrydad

我相信要待六月才會再通知。目前會先註dgs，祝你聖誕快樂，快些有好消息

philosopher

Allow me to contribute my two cents here.

Now that the results have come out, there is naturally a rather euphoric, self-congratulatory feeling on bk among parents whose kids have got into private/DSS elite schools.   The point I want to make is that instead of exchanging theories here, parents should speak directly to those who have kids i those schools.     Exchanges here rarely bring out the true picture.  Let me explain why.


From what I observe here, there are not a lot of real "insiders" from the elite schools who post topics here to elabrate on the downside of the operation, curriculum, culture of the schools.  I don't think I need to explain why.  Posts here from insiders (which are very small in numbers anyway) tend to be posts who say good things about a school: these do not tell us a lot.  

But there are one or two things which I can guess about most if not all elite private/DSS schools: a lot of parents here say "school A must be a very fair school who accepts students purely on merits, because his/her kid (with no connections) could get in".  That is not logical at all.    It is only fair (and if I were the principal, I would do the same - no need to be politically correct about it) that there are certain "quotas" for different category of people: alumni, siblings, people with strong "support", people with no connections but who had impressed the interviewer in particular respects.    The size of the quota may differ, but it would be "too simple, sometimes naive" to think that there is no such thing (I personally think it is a good idea to take a certain number of children of alumni because this can preserve the culture and spirit of a school - a school has no soul if its students has no sense of its past and its spirit - if a school takes students purely on merits it will become a shop).    So let us not kid ourselves by thinking that because a school has taken a student from an ordinary family, it is necessariy a "meritocratic" school.  No school is entirely meritocratic.   

So, my two words of advice, personally speak to people who know.

InitialD

Both are top school in HK and the output from these two school are very sucessful in the society but the development process is different and the  "character"  is also different.  I think there is an answer in your mind before you submit the applications. Your intention is to get 2nd opion to support your decision. I am certain whatever you make will be your "best choice", god bless you.

yukico

原文章由 merrydad 於 07-12-21 05:37 發表
見微知處
Just want to share some experience

女拔交表日：
老師們大都相當「嚴肅」，即冇乜笑容，交表時對家長提問回答是一句起兩句止，予人名校果然寧舍不同的感覺。朋友女兒除了成績表外未有準備profile，該收表的老師說： ...

Merrydad,

你知道嗎? 幫女拔收表的並非老師, 而是一班義工媽媽. 她們對學校的收生標準並不知情, 相信不容易給予考生家長滿意答覆; 今年學校規定每位考生最多可附帶5頁附件, 如你朋友的女兒除成績表外, 未有其他資料, 我猜那位收表的媽媽只是出於好心, 想提提你朋友而已, 別介意.

anxiousparent

same old topic.  

I largely agree about characters of graduates.

disagree about "treatment" of parents. (talk to more people la: I agree here with philosopher and yukico).

Disagree that you can judge a school by the way they send rejection/acceptance letter (the point reflects a preconceived spin in the mindof the author).  When Oxford accepts you it send one page.  When a community college in the USA accepts you it sends you a glossy brochure. just cannot compare this way)

agree about temporary inconvenience.  But if a school is good enough, I would place little weight on convenience.  Otherwise, never send your kids abroad, since it is so inconvenient.

sumyinmama

merrydad,
我地因為懶得搬，可能都係決定dgs, 希望你有好消息﹗祝 聖誕快樂﹗

sumyinmama

原文章由 merrydad 於 07-12-22 14:37 發表
我相信要待六月才會再通知。目前會先註dgs，祝你聖誕快樂，快些有好消息

step_mama

55我都覺:D

I_sister

唔清楚小學既情況,但係由於校外活動,
我同Co-Ed同DG中學既同學相處過唔少次~

我覺得SPCC既同學對人友善d,
好似討論時,
肯聽人講完野,之後先發表自己既意見,
DG既就有佢講冇人講,
雖然內容係好好,但係比人唔太禮貌既感覺~

仲有SPCC既同學做野好有交帶,
例如分左工各自返屋企搵資料,
set左個deadline,佢地會之前幾日已經交到野,
但係DG既五個有三個過左限期都交唔到野~

另外就係,活動進行緊,同放break時,
DG既同學好明顯地自成一角,
唔會主動同其他學校既人一齊,
上年我去過一個活動,
安排完全唔同學校既同學一組,
但係DG既會成日走返埋一齊,離開編比佢果組,
無獨有偶,
參加既四個SPCC同學相反地
好主動帶領同認識新識既、唔同學校既同學,
個人認為DG既同學唔太喜歡非Diocesan人,
但係SPCC既同學開放d,會肯認識多d其他人~

活動完左,大家約返出黎見面re-u,傾下近況,
SPCC既好樂意,到而家已一年感情仲好好,
DG既就次次都話唔得閒,斷左聯絡,
個人認為DG既同學好似較難相處,有架子~

我參加過三、四個呢類校外聯校活動,
睇到既都係咁,可能咁啱得咁橋啦~

(個人看法,無意冒犯)

BillieBug

你的觀察，我也有些感受，做事咁耐，都領教過唔少dg 同僚及上司的做事及相處方式, 真係幾難頂, 雖則不能一竹篙打一船人, 但佢地果種有佢講冇人講,同"果斷"既獨特style, 就似係train出來的, 而且佢地比我既印象,係佢地根本不需要同人商量/打交道與建立關係的感覺!
冇錯,佢地都係叻的, 可獨當一面及很能幹, 但係你會覺得同佢一起唔舒服, 理所當然, 佢地大部分都係single既!
Just gossip! Don't be serious!

原文章由 I_sister 於 07-12-25 15:49 發表
唔清楚小學既情況,但係由於校外活動,
我同Co-Ed同DG中學既同學相處過唔少次~

我覺得SPCC既同學對人友善d,
好似討論時,
肯聽人講完野,之後先發表自己既意見,
DG既就有佢講冇人講,
雖然內容係好好,但係比人唔太禮貌既 ...