有去蔡繼有, 培僑或真道的簡介會嗎? 可否分享?

siubchumama

Dear leungchai,

Yes for all DSS, they have to align with the government policy, therefore, they have to provide a stream to follow the new senior school rules, if the school still have money and resource, they can provide other stream (i.e. IB). But I do not think a lot of school have the resources, money and also for the parent perference... therefore, I lot of school already announced they may not provide IB for the senior form.

For Victoria and CKY, because they are Private School (not DSS), therefore, they can choose the way they want but since they do not get any subsidy from the government, the school fee is higher than the other DSS and also the parent to be aware the connection for the kids to the local higher education.

This is the info I got at the moment.

siubchumama

原文章由 leungchai 於 07-9-18 11:06 硐表
CKY's permanent campus is not ready at the moment and in the meantime, they are "borrowing" a site at Tin Hau.

Regarding CKY, can somebody confirm that it's not running IB in its secondary school?  I ...

[ 本文章最後由 siubchumama 於 07-9-18 11:16 編輯 ]

Lofty

你有時間可以去cky個topic study 下....我既小朋友今年先Year 1, 了解不太深....獻醜啦....

校址: 因為原址重建, 今年Year 1响North Point一間剎校既校社
         Year 2-7响長沙灣
學費: 已有家長分享, year1-5 HKD60,500/一年

原文章由 曳人 於 07-9-18 10:58 硐表
HI, Lofty,

我唔明你意思呀? 可唔可以講詳細d呀? 我想知多d, 唔該~~

曳人

HI, Lofty,
Thanks a lot for yor help.  
我見佢地話擴建校舍, 要2009年先完成, 所以year 1係天后, 原來如此, 重以為佢地會在港島區發展tim. 另外學費都甘貴啦, 甘就再諗下啦

原文章由 Lofty 於 07-9-18 11:34 硐表
你有時間可以去cky個topic study 下....我既小朋友今年先Year 1, 了解不太深....獻醜啦....

校址: 因為原址重建, 今年Year 1响North Point一間剎校既校社
         Year 2-7响長沙灣
學費: 已有家長分享, year1-5 H ...

Lofty

sorry for my typo... school fee should be $50,600.-per year for Y1-Y5

原文章由 曳人 於 07-9-18 11:52 硐表
HI, Lofty,
Thanks a lot for yor help.  
我見佢地話擴建校舍, 要2009年先完成, 所以year 1係天后, 原來如此, 重以為佢地會在港島區發展tim. 另外學費都甘貴啦, 甘就再諗下啦

...

kyliema2006

原文章由 Lofty 於 07-9-18 13:16 硐表
sorry for my typo... school fee should be $50,600.-per year for Y1-Y5

蔡繼有的學費其實都幾貴，但係再仔細想想，就算在津貼學校讀書的，算是免費啦！但又有多少人是不用補習呢？有些就讀傳統名校的補習費，每月開支比蔡繼有的學費還要貴。在這裡，至少我不用請甚麼補習老師，又或者請外籍人仕學英語會話、又或者聘普通話教師學說【煲冬瓜】。因為學校的環境可至令孩子不斷試練呢，還要練足十二年呢！

[ 本文章最後由 kyliema2006 於 07-9-18 14:38 編輯 ]

Matdad

I went to Pui Kiu College's talk and I give up to submit the application due to not low English standard.  When I pay attention to students English speaking on the stage as well as the articles posted in classroom,  it quite upset me.  Meanwhile Putonghua level is very high.

CKY is good and her talk is well-organised.  The students' introduction about school learning is satisfactory.

小兒兒

原文章由 kyliema2006 於 07-9-18 14:36 硐表


蔡繼有的學費其實都幾貴，但係再仔細想想，就算在津貼學校讀書的，算是免費啦！但又有多少人是不用補習呢？有些就讀傳統名校的補習費，每月開支比蔡繼有的學費還要貴。在這裡，至少我不用請甚麼補習老師，又或者請外籍人仕學英語會 ...

一般長心態. 就算入是好學校, 仍會想幫仔女additional補習一下的. 所以出名學校的學生的課外補習不會一般人少呢! 父母想仔女補習多是不會理讀緊什麼學校的, 問題只在於補或不補而矣. 除非學費本身包了很多課外活動可以參加就唔同講法啦.

kyliema2006

原文章由 小兒兒 於 07-9-19 14:28 硐表


一般長心態. 就算入是好學校, 仍會想幫仔女additional補習一下的. 所以出名學校的學生的課外補習不會一般人少呢! 父母想仔女補習多是不會理讀緊什麼學校的, 問題只在於補或不補而矣. 除非學費本身包了很多課外活動 ...

我的見解可能會妳不同，假如小兒就讀傳統學校，相信我亦會找補習老師跟功課，第一，傳統學校的考試、默書有範本可隨，背熟就得；第二，少數孩子擁有高度的自律性，所以特別需要家長嚴謹的督促，才可跟貼學校或／及家長的要求。在求學祇為求分數的環境下，家長很難不為那些不小心扣分而勞氣。

在蔡繼有，補習老師就是父母，他們需要每天與孩子共閱群書，增進知識。所不同的，這種閱讀環境是無壓的，孩子的吸收是長遠的。好像小兒的中文水平很差，小一結業時，他經常有錯別字，亦很抗拒閱讀中文。暑假期間，我撰下文章，每天要求他書寫約３０個字的中文，解釋文字結構。當今年小二開學，在突擊默書時，他告訴我他的默書成績很好，與另一名女孩共同摘冠。這種學習氣氛是良性的、具積極作用的。對於本人而言，最有效幫到孩子的，就是父母自己。

ChiChiPaPa

原文章由 小兒兒 於 07-9-19 14:28 硐表


一般長心態. 就算入是好學校, 仍會想幫仔女additional補習一下的. 所以出名學校的學生的課外補習不會一般人少呢! 父母想仔女補習多是不會理讀緊什麼學校的, 問題只在於補或不補而矣. 除非學費本身包了很多課外活動 ...

搵到間好學校，唔係應該睇下小學6年玩些甚麼嗎：NDSL、WII、網上遊戲、樂器、打球、唱歌、戲劇、表演、畫畫、賽跑、游水、下棋、看戲、旅遊、田園活動、追小說......?

不過，網上遊戲都可能要補。如果唔係，可能唔會在遊戲中打中文。哈哈！

[ 本文章最後由 ChiChiPaPa 於 07-9-19 20:44 編輯 ]

piggybank

原文章由 Matdad 於 07-9-19 14:12 硐表
I went to Pui Kiu College's talk and I give up to submit the application due to not low English standard.  When I pay attention to students English speaking on the stage as well as the articles posted ...

As a parent, I feel it is unfair to judge a school based on a 10 minute performance by young children, standing on a stage, in front of a room full of adults!  It takes a lot of courage for people to talk in front of others, especially in a language which is not their native one. Personally, I felt the performance was unrehearsed and spontaneous, much like what is relfected in real life, rather than drilled and prepared.

I like that the school teaches English naturally, so that students can use the language, instead of memorising it for the sake of exams.

papa_pop

It depends on what 'good' school you refer to.  In the case of traditional elite schools, most student, and thus their parents, need to work really hard, especially in upper primary when the pressure is mounting.

As to extra-curricular activities, some top schools push really hard on students, esp for results in inter-school competitions.

Work hard, play harder!

pickey

這是在一個叫做八公的網站所得的資料, 有沒有蔡繼有家長, 可以評論一下嗎?

Heard from parents whose kids are in Po leung Kuk Choi Kai yau School, that many quit the school for "unknown" reasons.
There curriculum is kind of messy, as I was told, like condensing the 6 years of primary education into 5 years. Year 6 is suppose to be secondary one. Well kind of pushy I think. The kids quit probably because the foundation isn't well built and find it difficult to go on. Imagine condensing the 6 years into 5, assuming they are all geniuses. I also heard that the school disapproves private tuitions. In other words, from what I have heard, the school needs a lot of improvements well that is my point of view and does not represents any discretions

father_ho

原文章由 pickey 於 07-9-20 18:53 硐表
這是在一個叫做八公的網站所得的資料, 有沒有蔡繼有家長, 可以評論一下嗎?

Heard from parents whose kids are in Po leung Kuk Choi Kai yau School, that many quit the school for "unknown" reasons.
There cur ...

I am a CKY parent and hope I can clarify from my experience. Condensing years to me is natural since students in local school just spending lots of time (upper pri.) in preparing the silly exam. required by gov.. Regarding existing student quit the school, not heard of it from both my kids and I don't believe either since some of my friend kid want to transfer to CKY and said lots of applicant compete only for few place on each grade. I think the most dynamic stage is from Y5 to Y6 since the fee increase and some student will transfer to IS since some parent just want their kids to learn more Chinese during pri. stage and change to IS afterwards (may be mine is the same, who knows). It all depends on the performance of student and willingness for kids to change. Uptill now, I still satisfy with the school and feel that they empahsis on writing(Chinese/English) in upper pri. (as they promised).

WYmom

原文章由 father_ho 於 07-9-20 20:17 硐表


I am a CKY parent and hope I can clarify from my experience. Condensing years to me is natural since students in local school just spending lots of time (upper pri.) in preparing the silly exam. req ...

If CKY only has 5 years in primary, then how many years are there in secondary?  6 or 7?

Also read that many students have to repeat Y5, if then, is 5 years primary school not enough in practice?

Logos also states that their students only need to study for 11 years, but in fact, some of them need to repeat one year to attain certain standard.  So seems to be same as CKY.

father_ho

原文章由 WYmom 於 07-9-20 21:09 硐表


If CKY only has 5 years in primary, then how many years are there in secondary?  6 or 7?

Also read that many students have to repeat Y5, if then, is 5 years primary school not enough in practice?

...

Dear WYMom,

CKY only 5 years 'secondary' and after that two years for IBD. To me, the reason for many student repeating Y5 is due to the misunderstand from parent to school since lots of spare time for students are for them to read, read and read, not for games and sitback. I follow my son's progress closely from last year and feel it is really possible to catch up the speed and at the same time, student need to read a lot.

kyliema2006

原文章由 father_ho 於 07-9-20 21:19 硐表

Dear WYMom,

CKY only 5 years 'secondary' and after that two years for IBD. To me, the reason for many student repeating Y5 is due to the misunderstand from parent to school since lots of spare time  ...

我相信另一個原因是，現時蔡繼有最高的一級是Y7，
學校最初招生時，是同時招一年級及二年級學生，
即是今年升Y6的學生亦是第一批的學生。
而對於一間全新的學校來說，六年前入蔡繼有競爭比較少，
所以應該比較容易入的。
學生及家長亦可能未能完全理解及配合學校的理念，
而出現錯配（純粹本人猜想）。
去年，我問過幾位高年級家長，
孩子是否喜歡閱讀，答案多是「不太喜歡」。同樣問題，
問低年級的家長及學生時，答案會變成「喜歡」。
相信，這．．．就是分別。

我亦聽說今年升中時，有十多個學生需重讀Y5，
亦有些因此而離開。對於學校此做法，我是贊同的。
成績不夠好，當然需打好基礎，否則如何面對IBD呢？
小學升中學，成績不夠好，學校的安排是重讀，並非踢出校，
這是否已經很仁慈呢？

至於學校不准找私人補習的傳聞，其實學校不鼓勵私人補習才真。學校教學理念是廣覽群書，並不是背熟所學書本，
學校希望家長隨時隨地給予孩子適當的教導，
並非將責任假手於補習老師（我相信補習老師的幫助有限），
當中的微妙關係，你可會體驗得到？

正如我及father ho的體會，若祇享受蔡繼有帶來的空餘時間，
小孩子可能會變成大懶蟲。所以，我不會掉以輕心，
我們的付出相信不會比傳統學校的家長少，
祇不過我們缺少怒氣一分，
因為不需為測驗紙上那多一分、少一份而與孩子大動干戈。
但我們需多加關注一分，
就是在於孩子對追求學問的熱誠及認知。

我對於學校是滿意的，對於孩子追求學問的精神也是滿意的。

[ 本文章最後由 kyliema2006 於 07-9-21 11:36 編輯 ]

rabbitpiggy

原文章由 kyliema2006 於 07-9-21 10:24 硐表


我相信另一個原因是，現時蔡繼有最高的一級是Y7，
學校最初招生時，是同時招一年級及二年級學生，
即是今年升Y6的學生亦是第一批的學生。
而對於一間全新的學校來說，六年前入蔡繼有競爭比較少，
所以應該比較容易入的。
學生 ...

想請教, 咁如果小朋友暫不太喜歡閱讀是否不適合此校呢?  你小朋友是否before 入此校時已like reading 呢?

kyliema2006

原文章由 rabbitpiggy 於 07-9-21 11:50 硐表


想請教, 咁如果小朋友暫不太喜歡閱讀是否不適合此校呢?  你小朋友是否before 入此校時已like reading 呢?

小孩子的變數是很大的，相信你會比我更清楚他的潛質。蔡繼有收生的其中一個重要條件是－－孩子喜歡閱讀否？不喜歡閱讀，相信進步會很慢。

至於小兒是喜歡閱讀的，在入小學前就已如是。但他為何喜歡閱讀，都是因為我們每天與他閱讀啫，習慣是培養出來的，不會一朝一夕的。你希望孩子懂得游泳，就要自己多點與他游泳，希望能培養出興趣，又或者變成習慣！一切看似簡單，但所花的精力卻不少呢！

rabbitpiggy

原文章由 kyliema2006 於 07-9-21 12:18 硐表


小孩子的變數是很大的，相信你會比我更清楚他的潛質。蔡繼有收生的其中一個重要條件是－－孩子喜歡閱讀否？不喜歡閱讀，相信進步會很慢。

至於小兒是喜歡閱讀的，在入小學前就已如是。但他為何喜歡閱讀，都是因為我們每天與他閱 ...

明白, 多謝

ChiChiPaPa

原文章由 kyliema2006 於 07-9-21 10:24 硐表


... 我亦聽說今年升中時，有十多個學生需重讀Y5，
亦有些因此而離開。對於學校此做法，我是贊同的。
成績不夠好，當然需打好基礎，否則如何面對IBD呢？
小學升中學，成績不夠好，學校的安排是重讀，並非踢出校，
這是否已經很仁慈呢？...

如果Y5要留班，會唔會冇乜選擇，唔可以選轉其他學校讀小六呢？因為中一派位，是要兩年呈分試的成績，所以其他學校應該唔可以收他們讀小六，他們應該只有一個無可奈何的選擇，就是重讀小五。

如果可以早一年知讀唔上，可能會好一點，因為會多一些選擇，可以找到一些程度適合的學校轉校，繼續升學。