請問有無英基ESF / 啟新Renaissance College媽咪係度呀?

ChingChingDad

原文章由 JennyBaBa 於 07-9-18 21:45 硐表
'4名狀元中，就讀英皇佐治五世學校的Ding Xiang成績最突出，除了會考摘取10A*外，於Certificate in Digital Applications考試中獲得Distinction（優異）成績，相當於會考2科A*級。
其餘3名狀元均來自West Island School，他們是Mitch Abernathy、Nicholas Tsao和Elise Ng-Cordell。

Ding Xiang: ? Chinese Surname 香
Nicholas Tsao: ? Chinese Surname 曹
Elise Ng: ? Chinese Surname 吳

Three out of four may have Chinese origin.  Should we applaud?

ChingChingDad

ESF 2007 exam results

The first results in were those for the International Baccalaureate Diploma at Sha Tin College. 125 out of 130 students passed the Diploma, with 20 students achieving 40 points or more. Ian Chau (周) scored the maximum of 45 points, while Grace Cheng (鄭), Raghav Kaushik (An Indian surname) and Christopher Leung (梁) Chung Ya all reached 44.

A Level results were also encouraging:
Eugene Lui (雷or 呂) and Lorraine Ma (馬) of South Island School both achieved six straight A grades (5 at A Level and one at AS Level).

The Head Boy of West Island School, Justin Yeung (楊), achieved 5 As, along with his classmates Adrian Hui (許) and Nick Fung (馮).

King George V School achieved a significant benchmark; over 50% of results were at grade A. These results led to some impressive university placements in the Ivy League, Oxbridge and many other prestigious institutions.
The recent GCSE results were another cause for celebration.

The percentage of papers marked A*-A increased to over 53% this year up from just under 50% last year. The proportion of A*-C results also improved: 94% as opposed to 92% last year.

Three West Island students Mitch Abernathy, Nicholas Tsao (曹) and Elise Ng (吳)-Cordell got ten A* scores.

At King George V School, Ding Xiang (香) achieved ten A* grades, one A grade plus a Distinction in the Certificate in Digital Applications, which is generally considered equivalent to two A* grades.

Should we applaud again?

[ 本文章最後由 ChingChingDad 於 07-9-20 01:48 編輯 ]

Cara2006

這只能證明，成績好的都是華裔學生了，
亦只能證明，ESF 的輝煌，都要靠我們華人了。

我覺得家長就是不能單看幾個 top student 的成績，就認定學校是最好。中學的成績算是甚麼？很多孩子在大學 undergradute 甚至 post-graduate 才發力，發揮。這點，在本地學校學校，可能可以做指標，因為大家文化背景類同。國際學校一般都有不同族裔的孩子，亞裔家庭，的確是較緊張孩子的成績。如果曾住外國，就不難觀察到西方孩子，因為文化差異，一般都沒我們東方孩子成熟，很多在大學一年級還是遊戲人間；這一點，我覺得跟民族文化有關，這裡不多說。間單說，中國人成績好，未必係因為父母本身都是知識份子，亦未必代表孩子真的較出色，只因中國的歷史告訴我們，中國人如果不讀書，是沒有出路的，國內人士傾家蕩產，都要為子女籌錢讀大學，就是這原因。

我反而是希望家長要真正多些了解學校的各方面，如果一心希望孩子在比較多不同族裔群的學校學習，SJS/SC 未必是個好選擇。SJS/SC 的學生，主要是華人，我就覺得更像一間以英語授課的 local school。要真正想孩子入讀有多些其他族裔的國際學校，又堅持選擇 ESF ( 其實有很多其他國際學校都很好 )，看來真的要搬家，港島區的 ESF，或九龍區 CWBS 看來都比較 international 。

[ 本文章最後由 Cara2006 於 07-9-20 08:05 編輯 ]

WYmom

Parents with IS experience would know clearly the great difference of IS from local schools.  It is really ignorant to say that when an IS has more Chinese students, it is just an English local school.  If this saying is true, then CIS, SIS etc. are also local schools.

To me, having an international and global perspective is more important.

JennyL

A school does not "becomes" an international school because there are non-chinese students.
And a school would not be considered a local school because there are only chinese students.
I am sorry if this is going to disappoint you. It is the curriculum that matters.
ESF schools are mainly using the british curriculum (they are gradually migrating to IB though); RC & DC are IB schools right from the beginning. The curriculum makes them international schools.

Some elite schools have, for decades, provided educational services to many western students. My mother school is one of the few elite girl's school that offer French from Form One as an alternative to Chinese. We have had quite some non-chinese girls ever since. However, it would not make my mother school an international school.

Last, do not forget about the laws. Someone posted here a while ago the link to a government list of all international schools. Wonder if he/she can re-post the link.
It would be sensible to think that the government would have different laws or rules to regulate local and international schools. So, if a school is on the international school list, than it is an international school. At least, it would legally be one.

[ 本文章最後由 JennyL 於 07-9-20 18:15 編輯 ]

Ruby1219

WYmom,

I can't agree more with you.

I know that many (or even most) of the local parents see "high proportion of Caucasian/foreign students" as the merit or criteria for choosing an IS. But I personally don't see it this way.
What differentiate an IS from a local school is its curriculum, it's education philosophy and style. It does not bother me at all if my son's classmates are all Chinese. I don't even mind that they speak to each other in Cantonese. I always can't understand why parents would worry about this. Afterall we are Chinese and why hinder our kids from speaking their mother tongue ? And, this is becos I believe that they already have enough English environment at school to help them master good English when they grow up. I would prefer that my son being able to speak good (maybe not excellent) English plus Cantonese, instead of speaking perfect English but no Cantonse.

Are we ashamed of being Chinese ? Why stressing so much on the English/foreigh students proportion issue ?

Just my two cents and personal view.

Ruby

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Parents with IS experience would know clearly the great difference of IS from local schools.  It is really ignorant to say that when an IS has more Chinese students, it is just an English local school ...

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JennyBaBa

Why Westerners did better than Chinese in Sciences in the past few hundreds years? Is it because they are prudent, logical, and rational?

If you examine the fact  "其餘3名狀元均來自West Island School，他們是Mitch Abernathy、Nicholas Tsao和Elise Ng-Cordell。" carefully, Ng-Cordell is only half-Chinese. How could Abernathy be a Chinese surname?

So, can this '只能證明' '成績好的都是華裔學生了'? Or '亦只能證明，ESF 的輝煌，都要靠我們華人了' is only a false statment?

In fact, these statements '只能證明' the person who made these statements is very good at 斷章取義，信口雌黄。足與胡適筆下的《差不多先生》(1924)互相輝映，八十年不變！

I hope Cara can be more prudent when she makes her claims, so that she can exert a positive influence to her kids.

原文章由 Cara2006 於 07-9-20 07:45 硐表
這只能證明，成績好的都是華裔學生了，
亦只能證明，ESF 的輝煌，都要靠我們華人了。

我覺得家長就是不能單看幾個 top student 的成績，就認定學校是最好。中學的成績算是甚麼？很多孩子在大學 undergradute 甚至 post-graduate ...

[ 本文章最後由 JennyBaBa 於 07-9-22 19:28 編輯 ]