自己算是中產, 都送小朋友去讀學卷幼稚園, 因為:

wellmax

omoinoyukue 發表於 16-12-15 10:55
其實唔洗唔高興, 樓主唔知i banker係乜, 所以先話佢地唔專業.

真係從事金融業的,就知道要拿邊一type既牌照 ...

Hi... No, I don't mean I am unhappy because of any reasons from the person who initiated this thread.

Yes, you're right. Most people in financial industry will have Type 1 & 2 listed with SFC/HKMA. Besides that, there're some departments doing real investment banking business. They don't need to be qualified with any 'license', because their job nature is not handling with trades/investment advisory etc. They work for a more sophisticated business instead, handling IPO deals with prestigious worldwide company senior managements. They will only hire people from top-tier universities, some because of their outstanding school results, some because of their networks.

Since this forum is not talking about job nature so I didn't bother to elaborate too much. But I dont agree that people who choose voucher schools are from lower class.

Guaichu

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其實我唔知點介定爲專業人士同唔系專業人士。其實，Ibanker 要考的牌是不用特别的教育水平或要完成一個大學课程。响專業介别，例如我是律師，我地一般都不會當他们是專業人士，我地會當會计師，建筑師，药剂師，医生等爲專業人士，毕竟他们要經过繁复的考牌同要完成特定大學课程，要有所谓專業资格。ibanker 我們會當他是银行家, 他们可以是讀天文，心理，教育話其他科出身，但就無特定ibanker课程。我當然没有貶的意思因爲他们赚錢比我們多，我地律師好多都系幫他們做事，比他们骂。所以，这个争论其实没有太大意思

Guaichu

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I was reading your thread here.  Actually, I am currently struggling to fight for being a partner or stay put as a counsel.  My daughter means everything to me, but I know that if I miss this opportunity, it may never come again! It is so hard to let go....good to see that you and many of your friends have put their career in a second place...Perhaps I should.

QQfishs

有經過專業試, 加上佢可以用專業資格簽名,大致上可以叫專業人仕。

omoinoyukue

wellmax 發表於 16-12-15 11:39
Hi... No, I don't mean I am unhappy because of any reasons from the person who initiated this thread ...

Yes, I don't understand why "professional" comes into this topic initially and why "i banker" has to be identified as a professional / non-professional to justify any argument.  Those in IPO or M&A might not "sound" professional because their path is different from those that are "professional" - accountant / lawyer or what not but whatever it is, respect is needed for whatever they choose to do.  I don't see any respect from 樓主, and that's probably why so many people are responding to this thread.

omoinoyukue

Guaichu 發表於 16-12-15 11:47
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其實我唔知點介定爲專業人士同唔系專業人士。其實，Ibanker 要考的牌是不用特别 ...

謝謝你的寶貴回覆
我都覺得這個爭論同主題其實無關係

宮二

大家又駛咩咁嬲呢？
在西方，最叻的人會去做政治家、科學家，企業家，而不是穩穩當當的專業人士。

hkpapa852

最需要有規管既專業, 其實係父母.

可惜, 要做父母, 從來唔需要牌照

wellmax

Guaichu 發表於 16-12-15 11:53
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I was reading your thread here.  Actually, I am currently struggling to fight f ...

Hello.... from what you said I think you will want to continue with your career and have some advancements. I do have many working mom friends and I feel they are great! Whether your choice of having career advancement or stay the same, it really depends on your family need and your company working culture/schedule. For example, if the father is very busy and so does the mom, the kid will be lack of family time with both mom and dad.

Your career reminds me of Audrey Eu case, I once read that she likes her career and she won't give up even with three kids. In the end, her three kids are still good. So it really depends on the person if she will be happy if she chooses to stay simple with her own career, or she prefers to work hard and move on and act as a role model for the kids. I don't know how her relationship with her daughters is, so cannot make any conclusion.

But if I were you, if you have people that can help you and you trust them, you should definitely go ahead to fight for being a partner. As you also said, opportunity doesn't come often so if you can, grasp it :)

adriantai

popcorncat 發表於 16-12-15 10:44
你可能無睇到之前的留言

讀私校當然不直接等於理財不嚴謹，但要有充分理由，例如沒有好的學卷幼稚園收， ...

如果需要大量外補，對我而言已經吾係乜好的學卷幼稚園

L+H

adriantai 發表於 16-12-15 14:01
如果需要大量外補，對我而言已經吾係乜好的學卷幼稚園

同意！又或者間學校課程唔適合自身需要.

Guaichu

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Not that I am or will be as successful as Audrey Eu, but I do agree with the point that I wish to be the role model of my daughter.  A woman loves what she does and does it successfully despite all the difficulties. My hubby has not been very supportive as he thinks I should not be an Alpha female...haha. though he said if that's what I wish, I should go for it and don't complain.  Anyway, it's good talking to you who understand the dilemma I am going through.

Koala0000

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I don't think career and family are mutually exclusive. We often talk about work-life balance. I don't like this term because it implies to get more of one you have to forgo the other. I like the term of work-life integration, meaning the two can co-exist. For example, if you live close to where you work, ask your helper to bring your kids to have lunch/dinner with you , then read a book with them together at the restaurant, or visit the Xmas decorations around where you work and take photos together, after which they go home and you continue to work in the office. When it comes to spending time with kids, it's the quality that counts, not the quantity.

Of course, if work commitment starts to make you miss your child's performance at school, or they are sick and you can't excuse yourself from work to make yourself available to them, then it becomes a problem.

popcorncat

adriantai 發表於 16-12-15 14:01
如果需要大量外補，對我而言已經吾係乜好的學卷幼稚園

大把名私幼家長同樣帶小朋友出去大量外補…

popcorncat

wellmax 發表於 16-12-15 11:39
Hi... No, I don't mean I am unhappy because of any reasons from the person who initiated this thread ...

坦白說，我唔相信一個成功的投資銀行家會介意人地話佢唔係專業人士

除非自己做得唔好，自己也看不起自己份工

Guaichu

Koala0000 發表於 16-12-15 15:11
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I don't think career and family are mutually exclusive. We often talk about wo ...

I like this phrase "work-life" integration! Yes, work-life balance does make one sound like a slacker and not good at either .  Good thinking! First I have to overcome my mental hurdle that this is no easy task ... to meet my target at work and to meet my demands at home!!!! being a modern day woman is certainly no easy task! Thanks or sharing.

dougts

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本帖最後由 popcorncat 於 16-12-15 10:45 編輯

請教一下，樓主揀了那一間好的學卷幼稚園?

popcorncat

Koala0000 發表於 16-12-15 15:11
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I don't think career and family are mutually exclusive. We often talk about wo ...

Work-life integration is a very nice term, but it's easier said than done I am afraid.

I do strongly agree with u that spending quality time with kids is the most important, it's not only about the quantity.

For me, half an hour a day of quality time with each kid is fair enough. I will spend my whole day with them on holiday though

wellmax

popcorncat 發表於 16-12-15 15:18
坦白說，我唔相信一個成功的投資銀行家會介意人地話佢唔係專業人士

除非自己做得唔好，自己也看不起自己 ...

From my last two replies I said I don't care about what you've said already... It's only you to keep mentioning I will be sad about your saying I Banker is professional or not.... I didn't spend time to clarify but there're people from financial industry helped explain here.... and yes, smart people will understand what we are talking about!

And, wow... first time to see your English reply above. So many grammatical mistakes. No wonder you don't care about your kids' language environment!

popcorncat

wellmax 發表於 16-12-15 15:41
From my last two replies I said I don't care of what you said already... It's only you to keep ment ...

Thanks for performing gramma check for me.! U know what, I was writing so casually and it's not meant to be good, sorry about that

I have never said my English is good, that's why I send my kids to English courses. Fortunately it's enough for my work