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I spent some time to read all the posts under this thread and have the following comments:
The thread went astray when stccmc started arguing with 77777 about the effectiveness of Kumon English. It started to explode when stccmc used the example of drugs. It hit the soft spot of 77777 who started to respond emotionally. It reminded me of my experience of using 黑社會用排隊黨買樓花 in a project study in one of my MBA courses. One of my classmates, a police inspector, reacted strongly and asked us to withdraw the presentation as 黑社會 are illegal organisations. Anything to do with it somehow became taboos in the upright policeman's world. No matter how we explained the difference, it fell on his deaf ears.
Stccmc faced a similar situation.
Back to the long-standing argument whether there is a causal relationship between Kumon English and the English standard of the kids of 77777 and 囝囝爸, and whether Kumon English is the tiger or the fox according to Eviepa, I have another story to tell.
I know two brothers very well. Both have a kid. One boy went to "x基" in Kowloon Tong and was sent to England immediatley after primary school. His cousin went to "基x" in Island East and then a top EMI in Hong Kong until F7. The first boy's parents basically did nothing other than financially to help with his kid's studies. The second boy's parents, on the other end, did everything possible, time and money, to make sure the boy stayed at the top of everything he pursued.
What happened in the end? Both boys graduated from Oxford.
In our discussion we are often biased by our own experiences and we often forget the kid's own potential is probably the most determining factor. I believe if 囝囝爸 and Eviepa 易子而教，兩名子女會同樣出色。
Although I am not a fan of Kumon myself, I don't think we can write if off lighthandly. Judy once said she would remain relaxed as long as her kids stayed in band 1. It touched on my softspot. "Your kids are gifted and of course you can say 風涼話 like these." That was how I thought. "What happens then if our kids are not gifted?" I don't need to remind you of the painful days my wife and I spent with my younger daughter. Our methods were more Kumon than Kumon. Kumon changes the numbers in the questions using the same format. We used literally the same fraction questions we thought typical and carried them everywhere we went with our daughter day after day until she understood and more importantly could remember them.
係郭靖，就咪當係黃蓉咁教。
I also notice that 囝囝爸 has actually no objection to extensive reading or even high-dosage reading itself. However, he may have reservation against Eviepa's idea that high-dosage reading is the tiger, and everthing else is at best a fox.
I am a big fan for reading as Eviepa should know. However, we should take into the consideration of the kid's aptitude. My elder daughter likes reading both English and Chinese books but my young one has not a single ounce of interest in Chinese books even though I have basically said the same things to each of them. There are even some kids who do not like books. I had a lot of mates at university whose only reading outside class was comic books, most of them science students though. They all made it to university and PhD and some of them even have become professors teaching our kids now.
明明係波牛你要佢睇紅樓夢，明明係林黛玉你要佢玩十項全能，皆是拉牛上樹。
Moreover, Eviepa's recommendation is that high-dosage reading is the pragmatic preparation for kids to compete in high schools and even in university. To a large extent it is true, as good English is a necessary qualification for going to good universities. However, let's not lose sight that high-dosage reading may not benefit so much in the areas of Mathematics, Physics, Chemistry, Biology, Accounting ...
[ 本帖最後由 uncleedward 於 10-10-23 22:26 編輯 ] |
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發表於 10-10-23 18:33
