有冇家長后侮選了國際學校，而非傳統小學？

shadeslayer

原帖由 Annie123 於 13-04-02 發表
印象中 mighty  有講過，她讓小朋友讀 sjs  時，已有心理準備中文不會像在本地學校的水平；因此我一向以為 ...

來來去去個幾樣：

中文
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唔知 mighty 係未呢。

shadeslayer

That is the thing, an EMI school is suppose to provide the English environment and children get to use English extensively at school. In practice however, they are at best hybrid Chi/Eng medium, except for a few elite schools.  Stop pretending they are really English schools.  

Our EMI schools need an overhaul.

chansiub

Hi IS parents, how do you describe the Chinese level of your kid?

chansiub

I know that English is still important in Hong Kong.  But I am not dare to say that Chinese is not that important.  Due to closer relationship with China, I see more and more contracts in Chinese.  I also need to write more presentations in Chinese.  The Chinese government official even requires senior management of financial institutions take exams in Chinese (no exception even for foreigners).  This definetly casues me an alarm.  I like the way IS teaching kids (e.g. learn through inquiry and play).  This is really the way to train up a leader.  But Chinese.....to me, I think it's important and getting more and more important.  That's why I really want to know the Chinese standard of IS in Hong Kong.     

umom

原帖由 chansiub 於 13-04-02 發表
I know that English is still important in Hong Kong.  But I am not dare to say that Chinese is not t ...

I won't rule out or ignore the importance of Chinese language (Mandarin) as well.... So, extra Chinese tutorials or enrichment classes are definitely needed for our kids in the IS, I think this could even be a better approach that really helps them in the PRACTICAL USAGE of chinese language.

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Couple of years ago, the high profile Goldman banker, Richard Ong lost the China Goldman CEO job because he  "failed" the Chinese test required by the relevant regulator in China...... Is Chinese language really necessary for the CEO of Goldman? An American investment bank...  
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If you are talking about importance of Chinese because of the booming and dominating China market....
Indonesian would in fact be another important Asian language to acquire, it's optimistically going to really be another happening place in Asia. If your kid is sourcing big deals in Indonesia, be it the PE, M&A or fund raising... He/she better know how to speak Indo.....You come to my place to beg me for a deal and don't expect me to speak your language, I guess this is the same in the Chinese's heads!!

chansiub

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Thanks for your reply.  I find Chinese important not only because China is booming.  It's because we are Chinese.  There are no excuse for us to say that we do not know our own language (at least read, write and express ourselves in Chinese).  I heard a lot of people saying that IS kids are not really good at Chinese.  But how poor it is?  Can they read newspaper?  Write a proper letter?  Read instructions in Chinese?  I don't expect IS kids excel in Chinese literature.  But how about everything that are in "plain" Chinese?         

Shootastar

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It depends on the schools.

Some IS such as CIS, ICS, SIS and HKIS provide excellent program on Chinese which is as good as, if not better than, the program offered by some Band 2 to Band 3 LS.

Mighty

其実這個THREAD見左好耐、但我没有回答。　因無論我如何説得有道理、都好似BADMOUTH左自己女女間学校GUM.　但如果選択説出来、我想説出一個忠於自己地想法。　所以需要点時間整理一下個脳、再回覆。　不是在売関子、but just need time to collect my thoughts.

chansiub

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If the standard is in line with Band 2 or 3 LS, it isn't that bad.  Extra tutorial may help to bridge or narrow the gap.  I have a friend's daughter studying at HKIS.  She said her daughter's Chinese is terrible.  Probably, some parents are expecting too much.  Whether to put my kids in IS, Chinese standard is one of my concerns.  Of course, cost is another major concern.

shadeslayer

原帖由 Shootastar 於 13-04-02 發表
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It depends on the schools.

Some IS like Kellett or DBIS or Harrow would have less emphasis than most other IS in HK.  They are at the other end of the spectrum.

Many schools have streamed Chinese and maths. The best group for Chinese is not far behind typical local schools I believe.  Simplified characters and focus on Mandarin work well for many IS students.

Many students take IGCSE Chinese and IB language B.  A small number of Chinese high flyers attain bilingual diploma. Not bad at all for them but the effort to achieve Bilingual diploma is huge.

Shootastar

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Thanks for your sharing. It is true that different types of IS would place different emphasis on Chinese.

Shootastar

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HKIS provides 3 streams of Chinese program for the high school.

If you take the near native stream, the standard is close to those of some local Band 2 and Band 3 LS. Of course, if your friend's daughter takes the basic one - which is for foreigner who has no previous knowledge of Chinese, the standard, from your or our angle, is awful.

hkparent

How do we know the Chinese streaming in different IS? It's not published on the websites.

It's important to read Chinese story books with children starting from a young age. Otherwise, they will find it very difficult and boring to pick up the language.

chansiub

Thank you very much for your info.

chansiub

Cannot agree more that reading is very important.  I should have started earlier with my son.  

Before, I was pro LS.  From my own experience, LS life is not really happy but definitely not like now.  I had no idea why people have to spend so much on IS while there are free lunch or cheaper alternatives.  After hearing so many LS parents saying what they have to do to help their kids to survive at LS, I know the answer.  Feel really bad to see that we have to pay so much for "happiness".

md23

You need to be very careful in choosing IS if Chinese is a priority for you. Many kids of my friends do NOT read or write Chinese at all, they speak it, albeit reluctantly, with an accent. Now they are grown men/women, and they complain about their parents for not forcing them to learn Chinese when they were young.

English is an easier and more dominate language in HK than Chinese, so paying extra attention to Chinese is warranted if the kids go to IS.

ESF, for example, do not pay much attention to Chinese.

md23

chansiub 發表於 13-4-2 17:28
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Thanks for your reply.  I find Chinese important not only because China is booming ...

No, some can't read or write Chinese.

Shootastar

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CIS, ICS and SIS adopt the IB program which provides Chinese Language A and B at Higher Level. The IB higher level is more or less similar to those provided by Band 2 or Band 3 LS, if not better.

For HKIS, they offer 3 streams. The highest level is for "near native". Again the "near native" program should be more or less the same as the Chinese curriculum of Band 2 and Band 3 LS.

Shootastar

BeBeMa1012

I have not heard about DC's Chinese program as DC is a relatively new school.

Neither did I find any information about its Chinese program on DC's webpages.