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chingyu

Hi edelwise,

Now you clearly state “I challenge you coz you challenge me first”.
Is it so-called  “REVENGE”? (It sounds really terrible!!  Do you mean that we all need to shut up for righteousness?)

Now Papa2000 is invited to read this interesting thread, it is a coincidence you join us at the same moment.   Does it mean that my guess was “CORRECT”?????

I also asked if Thankful = christf .  He simply replied me “NO”.  How about you?   His reply was so clear and stick to the point.  Besides, he didn't take any revenge as you.

Honestly I don't remember I asked you if “Papa2000=edelwise” (my god!  It is talking about one year ago.  I don't remember such trivial matters) because I never target anybody.  Now I am grateful that you told us the truth.

I have no idea why Fate said I had had short discussion with him in RC.  I really didn't show up and even didn't say “a word” to him face to face.  If yes, why I have to say “No”.  What's a big deal if it is a fact?  Hopefully Carolsin who met Fate personally may appear here and prove I had no discussion with them at all.

Why do I need to tell lie if I met his family?  Just like nymammy, there were 4 families to have a gathering without “ME” again.  She is not afraid to say this in public.  What's the problem?  How come we have to tell lie for that?  

Besides, you also may refer to the following  Fate's post (#113) dated 13/7/2008.  He also mentioned we had met “from a distance”.  If I didn't tell him I had recognized his two boys’ faces from his picture in RC’s fair, he even didn't know I had seen them.

=======Quoted from Fate’s post(#113)========
And, of course, chingyu.

You may not be Big in size, Not having a Big Head like some of those never stop arguing, but you defintely have a BIG HEART.  

Even our two familes just met from a distance, only for a short time & it only happened once, you've Stood Up for me, for what you Believe In.  

To you,

There is always Good or Bad.
There is always Right or Wrong.  
There is a Bottlom Line & should NEVER be Crossed.
==================UNQUOTED===========


Here I just want to state my position very clearly to you.

(1)        I saw Fate's family but Fate's family never see my family.  
(2)        I communicate with Fate via emails/BK for a year mainly to talk about our kids/family.
(3)        He didn't sell me anything so far.  No one knows the future.
(4)        So far to my impression, he is a kind dad with a caring wife and two lovely boys.  Other than that, I have no idea.  He is not my real friend.  How can I know?
(5)        I  am really disappointed if Fate=Mum99=Papa2ooo


I know you all will make people to death only if she/he said something opposite to your will.

For me, I simply say the truth for righteousness.  All men should be treated with justice.

Please respect yourself and others.  BK should be a platform for sharing something good and positive, not for revenge or personal attack.


Best regards,
chingyu

[ 本文章最後由 chingyu 於 08-7-21 10:34 編輯 ]

chingyu

Hi daydream,

When did you ask me???

May I ask if you have different identities???

For me, it is easy to answer you as usual.

(1) I did give one of my personal email addresses to Fate but certainly it is NOT my company email.

(2) I did NOT give my mobile number/telephone number to him but somehow he got my mobile number.  (We just had a short dialogue via phone once when he was in HK.  Apart from this, we have NO conversation at all.)  Again, definitely he cannot get my office or home telephone number.


Is it clear to you?


Best regards,
chingyu

原文章由 daydream 於 08-7-21 10:26 發表
So as I guessed before that you just said Fate was telling lies instead of you.

This is what you wrote but not wrote by Fate:

***Nov, I met him with his wife and his two sons at the fair of RC.
***
...

chingyu

Hi daydream,


It is so happy to know you are so clear eventually.

Any other questions?



chingyu

chingyu

Hi daydream,

Thanks for your questions.

Your question:  Have you wondered why Fate knows your personal mobile? Why did he want to have it?

My answer:  Owing to previous sharing of Fate in BK, I do appreciate his positive sharing as many people said.  As I mentioned I had treated him as a pen pal, I sent a basket of fruit to the "Royal xxxx Hotel" in HK while he was coming back from Australia to HK.   As such, I am forced to leave my mobile number to the reception counter of that hotel.  He simply dialed to me and said "thanks."

Is it clear to you again?  I don't know you like to go so details.  As many of others said they would not listen to something too irrelevant here.  I dare not say too much.


Best regards,
chingyu

[ 本文章最後由 chingyu 於 08-7-21 11:17 編輯 ]

edelwise

原文章由 chingyu 於 08-7-21 10:19 發表
Hi edelwise,

Now you clearly state “I challenge you coz you challenge me first”.
Is it so-called  “REVENGE”? (It sounds really terrible!!  Do you mean that we all need to shut up for righteousnes ...

Chingyu,

請大家有眼睛, 有耳朵的parents, 睇清楚, 聽清楚, 邊個至係一而再, 再而三, 睜大眼睛說大話呢??  

睇呢個post之前, 如有時間, 可以回味下 : secret of losing million", 就知邊個係"terrible", "rough"!

你話, 我同papa2000又再同一時間出現, 就證明我地同一人,
ok fine, 咁..你同mum99, ngmammy等人成日都一齊出現係
Fate's 的thread度, 係味你都係: chingyu=mum99=ngmammy 呢??

請你挑釁人之前, 做足功課research先, 我睇你quali 都唔算差, 但係你好似唔知咩叫證據, 上法庭都要證據啦, 唔該你quote 的證據出黎先啦, 可能我冇咩可以俾你challenge, 我發覺你每次都用呢個: edelwise=papa2000, 你夠竟悶唔悶架啫??

to be continued~~~~

[ 本文章最後由 edelwise 於 08-7-21 11:39 編輯 ]

edelwise

原文章由 daydream 於 08-7-21 11:31 發表
Hi chingyu,

Thanks for your reply. I only go to search for details when I suspect there was something misleading or seems to be contradicting.

Like in this case, you have written before that :

*** ...

Hi daydream :

You're so great!!!

chingyu

Hi daydream,

It is good to hear that you are clear now.   

It is certainly fine to have clarification.

I just want to say it is not easy to use real identity to speak in public just like "Donald Tseng".  No matter what you said, someone must challenge you.


Anyhow, will you apologise to me that you conclude me as a liar before?


Best regards,
chingyu

原文章由 daydream 於 08-7-19 21:50 發表
Oh! What a liar :;pppp:

Remember what you had wirtten previously:

****
Hi Thankful,

Just want to let you know that I recongized Fate via BK over ayear.  To my impression, he is a humble, generous a ...

[ 本文章最後由 chingyu 於 08-7-21 11:42 編輯 ]

edelwise

hi chingyu,

如果你真係一個母親, 唔該你用多點時間陪你的子女, 其實如你所說, 如果我是個喜歡"報復"的人, 我就唔會一年之後先同你大戰啦??

pls calm down!!
請以身作側, 做你子女的好榜樣!!!

chingyu

Hi edelwise,

So....what's your real identity?  It is your turn that you still DID NOT answer my question again and again or you may simply tell lie because you know nobody around here.  Right?


pls calm down!!
請以身作側, 做你子女的好榜樣!!!
(I think the readers here know well who is using harsh and unfriendly words all the time.)

Regarding my timing, actually I really don't want to waste my time and response here.  However, I am forced to do so now because you keep on "personal attack."  If I said nothing, what will you further intrepret?

Thanks for caring my daughter.  She is having summer camp this morning.


Best regards,
chingyu

[ 本文章最後由 chingyu 於 08-7-21 11:53 編輯 ]

wicked

Hi Chinyu

Thank you for your response. I don't expect everyone to like "wicked" but I don't mind being so when I  need to. Thanks to interenet anonymity which allows my darkside sneak out with less fear if not more ease but then it is not what I say of myself that matters.

I believe in "xiang4 you2 xin1 sheng1", "ren2 ru2 qi2 wen2". Writings may allow more insight of people.

This thread might not have been as ill-fated as it is now had all the fairly petty fuss not been taken so seriously and defensively. Different people always have different perceptiion. Just like a designer's bag could easily mean differently to a royalty, a nouveau riche and someone still in a hand-to-mouth exisitance. A trip to a big city for a child living in the remote countryside could be something she wants to talk about for a long time. Schooling is supposed to help one appreciate differences and become more openminded and fairer, which I would expect even more of in international school setup. That is why I was intrigued by the petty dwellings here. But then that said, my perception of "petty" now could be a matter of life or death to others then.

I cannot quote for other's credibility either but to share my impression is the least I could do for a clear conscience of my own. Good to see we resonate on that. I still like to think that there is no serious scam behind Fate's networking here.

Btw, I might not respond as timely or as much or at all as my other far more interesting life matters more to me. Hopefully same for you and many others.

Have a nice day.

chingyu

Hi wicked,

Thanks for your kind words.  At least I am not alone to say something for justice.

Please advise what's the meaning of
"xiang4 you2 xin1 sheng1", "ren2 ru2 qi2 wen2".

I also want to escape from this battle and stop arguing.  However, at least I have to protect and defend myself.

Hopefullly I don't need to response anything here from now on.

Have a nice day too.

Best regards,
chingyu

原文章由 wicked 於 08-7-21 11:46 發表
Hi Chinyu

Thank you for your response. I don't expect everyone to like "wicked" but I don't mind being so when I  need to. Thanks to interenet anonymity which allows my darkside sneak out with less f ...

chingyu

Hi daydream,

Then, I am confident to say "Thank you very much!!".

Have a nice day!


Cheers,
chingyu

原文章由 daydream 於 08-7-21 11:59 發表
Hi chingyu,

Through my continue questioning, I set the platform for you to clarify for yourself.

However, you know that in this Cyber world, I can't verify whether you have told all the truth. You c ...

[ 本文章最後由 chingyu 於 08-7-21 12:05 編輯 ]

wicked

You are most welcome.

xiang = look
you=from
xin=heart
sheng=born
(looks transcends more than realized)

wen=writings/ articles
ru=as
qi ren= the person who wrote the article

almom

duplicated

[ 本文章最後由 almom 於 08-7-21 14:02 編輯 ]

almom

其實，網路上，邊個可以肯定事情的真假？

你有權質疑某某，但同時間，都可能有人質疑緊你。
個個都用網名，根本冇得下下 verify。
自己諗下自己在 BK 講過的話，有幾多可以好容易 verify？

我上網的理念係，自己都要用下腦，過濾下人地講的野。
老實講，就算係 "舊網友"，都唔係個個講的都中肯，
大部份 "舊網友" 的 "往積" ，大家心裡有數：
有 d 就係專出黎窒人，鬧人，搞事，
有 d 就係自大狂，自己學校最好，人地學校就垃圾，
有 d 就係酸葡萄，明明孩子唔係讀某學校，都話該學校點差點差，
有 d 就係 cd-rom，只睇 post 少出 post，但每次出手回應都言之有物，
而大部份，都像我一樣，想黎 "收下風"，亦分享下個人意見。

總之，有 d 網名一出現，就知道又有人要亂 up，
有 d 網名一出現，就知可以睇到有 substance 的文章。

如果係 "生面口"，就當然信住佢一半先啦。
大把人開個新 account，問兩句就走，
有 d 就係開個 account ，同自己一唱一和。

topic 係 fate 開的，佢好似問過野，
不過我會當佢 "生面口"，佢講的，我睇完就算，我理得佢真定假. ok，你地質疑 fate，完全係正確，警訊都教我地唔好咁易信人。但係要講的，可以講的，都講完，你地重想點？

fate 係唔係騙子，除了佢自己，冇人知，
可能係，又可能唔係，
但係，起碼到今時今日都冇人出黎話被 fate 騙了，
好，你可能話，佢未出手嗟，或者佢部署緊呢。

咁我又覺得，這裡都係成年人啦，
上黎 BK 的，應該都唔係文盲亞婆，
係識得上網，應該都知網路上的真真假假唔可以盡信。
好，就當有某某真係咁天真，差 d 就信晒 fate，但係都已經有網友好心，出個 message 提醒大家小心，如果真係重係咁蠢，靠網上聽個三唔識七的人講，就過一百幾十萬比佢，咁我只可以話，"好不幸"。

話人鬧人，都要有證據，都冇人投訴被騙，你地都係 "估" 佢係騙子，就咬住人唔放，何必呢？

我唔識 fate，亦唔係為 fate 出頭，
我係覺得唔可以唔出聲，
因為這樣的態度，這樣的氣氛，唔可以鼓勵。

[ 本文章最後由 almom 於 08-7-21 14:04 編輯 ]