"Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group "

Justin2002

HayBMum,

May I know what is the brand's name?  Is it a cold cut or packed?  I also worry about the issue of preservatives.

Thanks,
Justin2002

HayBMum

dear Justin2002 & kawai,

I copy the brand and the description here for your reference:

Brand:  Hormel
Description:  
- no nitrate or nitrite added
-all natural ingredients - no artificial ingredients, minimally processed
-no artificial ingredients
- gluten free
- no MSG added

ingredients:  turkey breast meat, water, natural salt, natural turbinado sugar, carrageenan (from seaweed), baking soda

website:  www.hormelnatural.com

chanchanboy

There is also gluten free sausage in City Super.  My maid just open the package and throw it away.  It is frozen food but without preservatives, nitrate and MSG.  I'll try to post more information if I buy one this weekend.

wewangwang

Hi kawai

Thanks for your sharing. There are two different stands of opinions lately. Some parents think the GAR useful,but some think she is ripping off parents. Interesting   I will wait and see.

cheers

HayBMum

I think I know which one that you are referring.  It is quite thick and salty and the taste is not that good.  My husband (not my son) refused to eat it.  Therefore I need to look for the alternative.  My son loves both sauage and ham very much.  

chanchanboy 寫道:
There is also gluten free sausage in City Super.  My maid just open the package and throw it away.  It is frozen food but without preservatives, nitrate and MSG.  I'll try to post more information if I buy one this weekend.

chanchanboy

I can't find the ham you mentioned in Shatin CitySuper but only Pepperoni (for Pizza) of the same brand.

Yes, the sausage is salty.  My son loves it very much since long time no sausage.  He is not so fond of it now.  I let him has 1 sausage with the GF bread twice a week as breakfast.

JustC

Hi to all Moms in Biomedical Parent Group,

I have read the message from this topic for a long time and thanks for Kawai sent me information about biomedical treatment.  I really want to try whether the treatment can help my son who has ASD.  He is now having ABA training and started CFGF diet from Jul.  I have made an appointment (First Time) with Dr. Trodd this week.  May I seek for all of you for some more advices?  Anything (e.g. Lab test or supplements) I need to request when first visit?  And what is yeast problem?  Thank you very much.

chanchanboy

Let me report the result of my son's blood test.  Actually, I got it last Tuesday.

The CBC, liver function etc. is normal, i.e. Four pulses of low dose chelation made no harm to his health.  

The RBC can check the essential minerals and toxin metals in his blood, i.e. the current status.  The essential minerals are OK.  

I have read the website of DDI, there should be no minerals supplements 36 / 72 hours (sorry forgotten) before the blood draw.   However, Dr. T never tell me about this.

For toxin metals-
Arsenic : ref range < 0.01, July 0.004, Oct 0.003
Lead: ref range < 0.09, July 0.018, Oct 0.019
Mercury: ref range < 0.01, July 0.03, Oct 0.013

July result is suppository DMSA and also fish intake.
Oct result is low dose oral DMSA and no fish intake.

chanchanboy

這兩篇講關於應付yeast overgrowth嘅天然supplements-

Outsmarting Yeast  

What Does Yeast Look Like In Your Child?

RayanLau

Hi to Biomedical Treatment - Parents' Group,

My son was consulted Dr. L. Ko for 3 months, but his temper is changing badly. Dr. Ko suggested us to start DMSA for detoxic end of this month; she gave us many kinds of supplement and B12. My son is 2 years and 7 months old and is ASD. He got diarrhoea last month, I called Dr. Ko and she told me that the medicine is supplement only and there’s no side effect. I’m worry about it.

I want to take my son to see Dr. Todd, please give me some opinion.  And how much for the medicine? Thanks.

Justin2002

chanchanboy,

A very good result! You should feel more relieved now.  But, does it mean that you can stop the chelation or keep on for certain period of time? What's your next step to do with him then?

Justin2002

HayBMum

Dear RayanLau,

I think if the diarrhea is not prolonged and not serious, it may not be caused by the supplements.  You should monitor the changes of your son to see if the supplements are fit or not.  You may also introduce the supplement one by one for easy monitoring.  

For medicine cost, it depends on what supplements that Dr Trodd will prescribe.  

HayBMum

Hi chanchanboy,
Same question as Justin2002.  Can you stop the chelation for a period?

Justin2002 寫道:
chanchanboy,

A very good result! You should feel more relieved now.  But, does it mean that you can stop the chelation or keep on for certain period of time? What's your next step to do with him then?

Justin2002

jasper888

chanchanboy,

Congratulations on the blood results.  What are the positive changes that you see in your son?

chanchanboy

Dear all,

First, let me clarify that according to the Red Blood Cell Elements (Click) collection instruction, no mineral supplements should be taken 72 hours before the blood draw.  This is to enable the blood test to check out what essential minerals are not enough and so as to decide what supplements should be taken.  But Dr. X didn't tell me this before and I think this is really 'waste gas' for the blood test.  

RBC is regarding the 'current status', i.e. the assessment of ongoing or very recent EXPOSURE to specific toxic elements.  It does not provide information about the net retention of the metals in the body.  That's mean my son has less toxic exposure currently but there is still toxic elements in my son's body, i.e. chelation is still required.

My son will have another pulse of oral DMSA coming weekend, I'll collect the urine this Sunday for the Urine toxic metals (Click) test.  Dr. X interpretes the report as how many toxic metals left behind in the body.  However, according to Dr. U, the urine test only measures how effective the chelation agent is doing, e.g. if high mercury level shown in the report, it means the chelation agent is effective in pulling out mercury.

All the above is my personal opinion based on information over the website only.  Actually, Dr. X gave no explanation about the report and just asked me to continue the oral DMSA.

For improvement, right after the 1st pulse of low dose DMSA, my son is very affectionate to us and sudden good eye contact.  Thereafter, no obvious change but I notice he was more talkative and made meaningful (but simple) comment of things happened / around him right after each pulse of DMSA.

Whether it's worth to do chelation, I think we have to check out whether there's really toxic metal problem.  .  Last year August, we just started biomedical treatment and did the Hair Elements (Click) test.  For mercury, the ref. range <0.4, he was 7.2.  My son has severe mercury toxicity.  At that time, he was 5.5 years old and very little improvement overall, that's why I let him try such kind of risky treatment.  For other parents, I think you really need to think twice.  

kawai

Hi RayanLau,

I think the cause of diarrhoea is not related to the supplement since your son has been taking those supplement for 3 months.  The side effects should be showed up in the beginning.  Sometimes diarrhoea is a good sign as it helps to flush out the toxic.   

Please be remembered that chelation therapy is the most important part of biomedical treatment.  Most of us must be gone through this challenge.  Since your son is still a toddler, the earlier to take the chelation therapy, the more he can be benefited.  You may post the supplement list here in this column if you don't mind.



      

kawai

chanchanboy,

We didn't stop the supplement on our son before the RBC too as Dr. Trodd forgot to tell us either.  I'll ask him if minerial supplement cannot be taken within 72 hours before the blood test next time.  Since I forgot to pay before we leave the clinic last Tuesday.  I probably will not pay for the test if it's the case.   

BTW, it seems that your son has been showing improvement after the chelation therapy and the low dose of DMSA is working well on him.   

chanchanboy

Kawai,

Please click here for the collection instruction.

Dr. X may be of the opinion that the RBC is for checking whether the minerals supplements now given is enough.  And not the same of my opinion that the RBC should use to check what is lacking.  Just like how to interprete the Urine Toxic report.   

kawai

chanchanboy,

Thanks for your information.   

smith

My son has been undergoing bio-med (for 5 months already) / chelation therapy (just for 1 month) . He is taking the following supplements and medicine:

Super Nu Thera - 1/2 TSP , 2 times a day
DMG - 3/4 TSP, 2 times a day
Cod liver oil - 1 tsp, once a day
Probiotics - 1 cap (20 billion) each time, 2 times a day
B12 injection - twice a week
OLE - 5ml, once a day
Learner's edge - 1 cap, once a day.

When he started the first four supplements for a week, I found he got earily falling to sleep. His sleeping quality improved. Before, he was difficult to fall to sleep (often up to 11:30pm or mid night).

As his urine /hair tests show a high level of mercry/lead/nickel, I started chelation therapy for hime. Now, he has finished the first 2 pulses of oral DMSA, I found he got a bit temper problem worse, but not that serious to-date.

Over the two pulses of DMSA gone, I did not found significant improvement to his speech / behavior(self-stimulative).

I found difficult to do full GF/CF diet for him.

Can any parents give some comments? Thanks,

SMITH