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教育王國 討論區 小學雜談 DBSPD interview後記
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Hi didima

May I have the  reading list, pls pm to me. Many thanks.

BTW, I also want to know your kinder and  why you chose this kinder to your son and give up those so called 'famous kinder'?  Many thanks!

Merry Christmas & Happy New Year!

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didima 寫道:
wunma:
在我心中La Salle是very top school,唔知點解,我總覺是很太壓力,希望你明白我心情
didima


didima,

其實你小朋友的程度已經好超班,根本就不用擔心,我想你的壓力來自對校長的交待,但如果照著你們的步伐去教導,要名列前矛也非難事.

我孩子的學術程度只是一般,兼且是那種未wake up的細路,我都膽粗粗的讓他讀LS,因為我看過課程用書,評估過他應該跟得上(以不被勸退為標準 )
不過我識得人以前讀St. Paul Co-ed,她的孩子讀哂書都考得不好,因為考試程度比原課程深好多,有些根本是從未教過的,不知LS會唔會咁?

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Hello didima,

Can I have your reading list also?

Thank you.

Gorowitz

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因為有多位daddy mummy問關於reading list ,我怕會覆漏,所以在這裹答大家,
p1&2 is magic box ,can buy  at青田,the other is oxford story tree, can buy at教協,and if want to buy oxford cd_rom , need to go ETC at tai koo ching

個敢言感受輪,係上次聽完理盧幼慈教授講完talk買的,青田都應該有

hope the info they think useful
另外我囝囝間學校是less homework, creative and happy school  in Causeway bay,我個人覺得最好,所以揀佢

至於囝囝的engish teacher係native 的

希望無答漏

merry christmas

didima

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philip:
you can try to go BooKanZen , have "polar Express",no need to reserve ar
the address is shop 229 carolline centre, Lee garden ll ,28 yun ping road ,causeway bay
tel: 81021011
didima

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發表於 04-12-24 18:11 |只看該作者

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Hi didima,

As a La Salle old boy, I didn't feel any pressure from either the school or the classmates. The school never put any pressure on your academic performance or sports achievements, however, many of the students would try to perform well pro-actively in order to defend the fame of the school because all the La Salle jai really love their school and would strive for their best to make it better.

"There are famous schools in plenty,
With their heroes by the score,
And they flourish high and mighty,
But La Salle is something more."

Based on your previous messages, I can see your son is mature and smart, I am sure he will enjoy LSPS very much and it will be a hell of pity if you chisel off his opportunity of studying in this school. Hope you think twice before you gave up.

didima 寫道:
lasallema:
你講出我的心聲, 怕有負所托,所以我最終可能揀Logos,
另外想囝囝寫快d,除了筆順要正確外,多訓練前3指同手腕力,會有幫助
didima

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發表於 04-12-26 00:47 |只看該作者

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Dear all

I have just come back from Japan!  My son enjoyed the trip very much esp in Disneyland.

Dear MarusMa

I am a working mum.  My son have not studying in any P.1 interview training course because I always train him at home.  I always believe that, for a interview, "confident" and "polite manner" are the most important things.  I am not too rich but in a professional.  But i am also pround of my son that he do the best in all the interviews.

thanks God!

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In my opinion, the fairest game is by written examination like applying P. 2 to P.6.

p1. 唔可以考written exam, 如果可以的話, 我估佢地都會考

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發表於 04-12-27 06:55 |只看該作者

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I have been following this thread for a while and feel like I should contribute or to share some of my thoughts. It's a long thread and apologize if I bored you.

A lot of discussions (including some other threads in this forum) compare LSC with DBS. One very important issue has always been overlooked, that is the approach of education of the two schools. I declare myself to be an old boy LSC. I still am proud of being an old boy and love my old school. Very fortunately, my son got accepted by both schools.

However, my choice is not between LSC and DBS, but is against DBS and my son's current school which is an IS.

First of all, both LSC and DBS offer extremely good extra curricular activities which are probably the best in HK local schools no doubt.

LSC is a good school by all means but is also a traditional school which judged the performance of a child based on memory ie the more you can remember, the higher ranking you will be able to achieve. Of course, they also emphasize on other aspects such as sports and other extra curricular activities. But their educational approach is still nonetheless, traditional and is bound by the local education system. Having said that, LSC is the only local school which I would consider my son to attend if I must choose.

The new DBS primary school, on the other hand, is adopting IS approach which is emphasizing in developing a child's interest in learning and the profile of education is on a much broader profile than what text books can teach you. The most important thing is that they can equip you with problem solving techniques and spark up the interest of doing so at the same time. I also, hope that they can suceed in organising the IB course.

This project based approach will have a crucial factor in the future career of your siblings. One day, he will be working and be able to survive on his own with much better chance since he possesses the skills of problem solving technique.

My personal experience is somewhat painful, grown up in traditional local education system, I did tons of homework plus additional extra workbooks like many students did (Math456,999,123 etc.), memorized (or tip) exam questions without actually understand the fundamental concepts. When I studied University in Canada, I had discovered that the other Caucasian classmates did not need to spend as much time in study as I had to and can get an equal or higher score than I. I was very frustrated and realized the shortcomings of my studying approach which is not at all effective and may even be incorrect but it was just too late to change. I did not care about why, I did not resolve the problem from basic principles, my attitude is to survive the exams and not to understand the course material! But that is exactly what I was trained up with! The values of study is to get high grades and no need to understand the materials in local education system!

To compare DBS and LSC, is simply comparing two top boys school with different education approach and it will not be by their names, not their fees, not because you are the old boy (I still love my old school but am in pain since I prefer the project based, problem solving approach).

My other concern is the Chinese level which will be too high for my boy if I chose LSC. He can understand and speak Mandarin, but his Chinese writing skill will not be at par with local school kids. DBS teaches in English which is a plus to me although this is NOT the governing factor.

I oppose to schools that give out too much homework to kids (I learned that most primary students in DBS and finish 80% of their homework at school). I always wanted my child to have a better childhood and spend more quality time with parents instead of battling with each other in preparing exams and doing homework. Therefore, I prefer to stay away from the prestigious local schools that preaches heavy spoon-feeding approach (although LSC is not exactly this way)

There is a very good example, at one gathering, some of my friends' kids were studying in IS, some in local top schools and were top students. When they were being asked to perform a simple task, a game, the IS kids just pick up the material and work their own ways and have various results of their own which they were proud of (regardless of whether the outcome good or bad in adults' eyes, which is not our business as long as it was their OWN ideas). On the other hand, the other kids from local schools, seemed lost and don't know what to do since there were no discrete directions given at all! They kept asking questions and guidance from the adults. Poor kids, they have been trapped by their own minds and cannot free themselves out! They forgot they can just do it their own ways, or shall I say they cannot do things on their own!! They simply did not have sufficient problem solving skills!
I am sure some kids in local schools possess good problem solving skills but I believe they inherit it from the parents but not from the schools they are in.

I think I have said too much but I firmly believe that Lo Mong Tung has definitely screw up the education system in HK!

For now, I will register my son to DBS and have to give up on LSC. I will have to decide on whether my son will  stay in current school or switch to DBS (I still have 8 months' time btw).

Just my two cents, cheers and good luck to all parents where they children is about to enter P1 next semester.

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Lochan,

Thanks for your detailed but clear explanation on  which I believe is very useful to many mums and dads reading this column. I also appreciate your points of view in looking at the teaching approach which I totally concur and adopted earlier when I enrolled for my son to DBSPD.

Thanks again,
Justin2002

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Lochan,

Thanks for your sharing! What you have said is really useful about how to choose the different teaching approaches!

If I were you, I will make the same decision.

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發表於 04-12-30 03:49 |只看該作者

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Quite honest, I still do not know whether they are project based approach on the outsude, but traditional approach on the inside.

According to my research, there are still some parents who still have an traditional approach in their mind and seemed hapless since they could not gauge his kid's performance as there are fewer tests and no ranking in the class to compare with other kids except percentile rating.

Also, DBSPS is still new and has still room to further mesh together and there will be always room for improvement unlike my kid's current school which is well established.

My word for all parents who has their kids enrolled in DBS, congradulations and please take it easy and let the kid find his own path and it is okay that he can play with you at night since there are no homework! Don't give him too much extra of your homework if you are still not comfortable, only a little will be fine though. Instead, let the child do the work with as little of your guidance as possible, let them MAKE the wrong decisions, write the wrong answers and do not give him a big "X". Just simply and gently tell him the preferred or better ways to do it.

My son is learning English by phonics. The teacher encourages him to write by phonics. Therefore, if he wrote "Today I am vey happy" in his own way as "td i m hpp", praise him as he can point out the the "t", "d" sound by HIS OWN! I can tell you it is hard NOT to correct him before he even made the mistake! But don't! This approach is well proven and by the end of the year, he will be fine and can pronounce most of the words! Marvellous isn't it? I think it is much more effective than to stuff the words in his brain by memorizing. Hey, we are here to trigger his eagerness to learn more and not to tell him this is wrong and that is wrong which as a result, the kid will eventually lose the will and eagerness to explore! So often I hear (I sometimes did the same too) parents battling with kids on hw and with mom ends up with tears or go crazy and kid ends up crying or got screamed at or got a big whack by parents. There is simply too much of "wrong love" in it!!

I know someone's daughter switched from famous local school to IS and her mom is so glad since she no longer needs to battle with her daughter on hw, tests and exam. Instead, she finds her daughter more willing to learn more different things and take initiative in class and ask questions to teacher. This is by all means a no-no in her ex-school since students asking questions will slow down the teaching process!!! I think this is ridiculous! Although I'm sure there are still a lot of parents who still don't understand why her daughter switches school and of course, her seat has been taken in no time.

Kinda off topic, but I truly hope all DBSPS parents-to-be be prepared to teach or inspire your son in a very different way that what you are used to do since there will definitely be a change of fundamental teaching methods and be prepared yourselves to learn at the same time while your kid is learning and you and your kid can have more fun. Afterall, is learning and studying supposed to be fun and interesting, isn't it?

Once again, good luck to all
cheers!  :wink:
P.S. someone may wonder why I post so damn early in the morning. Well I'm not crazy but is just that I had finished feeding my 2nd son's night milk!  
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Hi Lochan,

May I know which IS you're studying? The worry on IS is kids' Chinese standard; do u have any insight to share with us?

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Matt's mom,
I would expect the school will be demanding but hoping that that will demand the right things such as creativity, problem solving and smartness instead of purely judging from results on exams and test.

I'm pretty sure there are parents who are ready to drive their kids to maximum speed. I'm not one of them for sure. Like myself, I was always in the middle when I was studying in LSC but will occasional perform well in exams.


To Whiskers,
My son is currently studying at HKIS. Their goal is that the students will be able to read newspaper and speak fluent Mandarin when they graduate from highschool. Chinese parents will tend to buy some more work books in addition to the exisitng school books which I think is too easy in some sense. Also, Chinese is a topic which unfortunately depends mostly on memorising and recognising Chinese characters.

By the way, my son do not have any trophies or prizes in swimming although he can readily swim a standard lap with no problem nor does he practice music lessons..

I do think they really look at the kids and judge them on the spot on their performance heavily in terms of whether they are smart and wise and might not even mind the kid to be a little bit naughty in a sense.

cheers,
lochan

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Didma,

I did registration yesterday and by chance, I meet the headmaster of secondary division. He was asking about the registration situation and the girl told him that most had make registration. At that time is 11:30a.m. already. So, I guess the ones on waiting list will have chance. Please check with school next week.

Good luck !

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