真道書院「拓展一」分班試之困惑

honest

各位親愛的真道三年班家長：

在學期最後的一天（即散學禮）才收到校方通知我們的孩子需要於八月二十七日回校參加分班試，本人百思不得其解為何經過校內三次的學習嘉年華（評核試）及整年的持續評估都不能了解我們的孩子的學習水平及能力，而要於暑假尾回校在一小時的分班試中再作評核呢？大家意見如何？

mameemee

Yes, it really made parents mad.  Do we have to push them in order to get better result?  
On the other way, I understand that some (should be more than ten/ twenty) who got "4" in English would get special letter, so it might be a last chance for them, or they might have to repeat or so.   
Anyway, the school really make me feel uncomfortable, especially after I shared the feelings with the teacher.
I foresee there are some teachers to leave.

mameemee

Yes, it really made parents mad.  Do we have to push them in order to get better result?  
On the other way, I understand that some (should be more than ten/ twenty) who got "4" in English would get special letter, so it might be a last chance for them, or they might have to repeat or so.   
Anyway, the school really make me feel uncomfortable, especially after I shared the feelings with the teacher.
I foresee there are some teachers to leave.

cow

八月二十七日的能力評核試真的是多餘！
它的產生我想主要是因為上年有家長話佢地啲小朋友經過一個暑假的特訓，已經脫胎換骨、判若兩人，所以暑假後要再作評估。至於當日的評估是否用來分班就不得而知。

eviepa

真是百思不得其解。

為何沒有親政府人士出來解釋？在討論別的學校時會有很多人出來為學校發言的呀。

Obewan

I agree with you that this examination is ridiculous.  Logos promotes the concept of "continuous assessment" to avoid unncessary examinations.  The students have gone through 1 year of assessment, and yet, they are required to sit for an examination after the relaxing summer vacation.   Does the school intend to exert pressure to parents to send their kids to training during summer holiday, to improve the students' results ?  By the way, I heard that a lot of teachers are leaving the school after summer.  I am very worried about the situation.  It seems that the teachers are having too much pressure and work load (based on my chatting with some of them).  I am also worried about the arrangement of 拓展一.  Three years ago, the school promised that our kids can be ready for university after 3+5+3.  Up till now, I do not see any concrete plan for the cirriculum.  Frankly, some of the students do not even achieve the standard of ordinary P3 !  And I do not heard of any plan from the school to prepare for the IB, such as training for teachers.  Opinion from other parents ?   

eviepa

Obewan 寫道:
I agree with you that this examination is ridiculous.  Logos promotes the concept of "continuous assessment" to avoid unncessary examinations.  The students have gone through 1 year of assessment, and yet, they are required to sit for an examination after the relaxing summer vacation.   Does the school intend to exert pressure to parents to send their kids to training during summer holiday, to improve the students' results ?  By the way, I heard that a lot of teachers are leaving the school after summer.  I am very worried about the situation.  It seems that the teachers are having too much pressure and work load (based on my chatting with some of them).  I am also worried about the arrangement of 拓展一.  Three years ago, the school promised that our kids can be ready for university after 3+5+3.  Up till now, I do not see any concrete plan for the cirriculum.  Frankly, some of the students do not even achieve the standard of ordinary P3 !  And I do not heard of any plan from the school to prepare for the IB, such as training for teachers.  Opinion from other parents ?   

完全同意你的講法。

三年多前我亦參與過真道的簡介會，會中知道其辦學基本信念其中之一是拆牆鬆綁，盡量減輕小朋友壓力。但觀乎其做法，似有背離此基石之嫌。

IB 亦是其主要賣點之一，但擾攘了三年，卻只聞樓梯響，不見人下來。幸好當年沒有安排女兒入讀，要不然今天怎不心急若焚。

Obewan

Yes.  It is easy to talk about the shortcoming of the old education system.  But apparently, seems like even Logos cannot find an effective new way to do it. I think they need to inject a lot of resource to develop their new cirriculum, if it is going to be a success.  I hope the school would seriously consider starting to prepare for the IB training for teachers as soon as possible.  It may be too later otherwise.

Frankly, I am totally disappointed with the education in HK.  On one hand, the old schools are not doing well at all, on the other hand, the so called new start-up school are also quite messy ...  It may be better for the wealthy because they can afford some better private schools.

xellos

我個小朋友今年要選校，這間學校都是on our school list，現見你們的回應我是否不用考慮這間學校？

eviepa

xellos 寫道:
我個小朋友今年要選校，這間學校都是on our school list，現見你們的回應我是否不用考慮這間學校？

這是一間極為爭論性的學校，理念是最前衛的，如能落實其辦學的理念，則應是一間很好的學校。但往往被批評為講一套、做一套。最特別的地方是當此校被批評時，沒有家長肯挺身而出為學校辯護。其實我很想聽聽愛護真道的家長的心聲，讓我知道其優點是在那些方面。

dichiu

My daughter will start her P1 at Logos this coming Sept. From the seminar Mr. Yau gave us in mid-Jul, he mentioned about the IB. He said there is a big sum of annual fee to pay to the Education Board once the school get register with IB. Since IB courses won't be introduced until Junior high, he won't train the teachers for IB at this point. We must have faith in school. Even all P1 students (incl.my girl) have to attend the orientation on Aug 27 for 分班 (Mr. Yau said).

mansdom

真道書院 兩成教師呈辭 ??  
各位家長,請問有冇睇今日東方日報有關以上嘅報道


      

肥火箭

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2005-08-04  


真道書院9教師呈辭  


【本報訊】在電視節目《殘酷一叮》三連霸的「莫生」莫凱謙現正就讀的香港華人基督教聯會真道書院，今年將有五分一教師共九人離職，有教師指離職原因是因為工作辛苦。該校校長丘日謙回應時證實有關事件，但強調僅一人因為工作辛苦而呈辭，其餘離任教師各有不同理由，由於各空缺已填補，相信不會影響新學年的教學工作。

○二年創校的真道書院是一間直資一條龍學校，中小學共用約五十名教師，當中有近兩成共九名教師，在今學年完結後離任。有不願透露姓名的離職教師指，大量教師呈辭，主要因為校內工作辛苦。丘日謙澄清，除一名教師表示因為辛苦外，其餘離任教師各有不同理由。

Obewan

The principal has a very good vision.  But I would say the progress in the past three years was poor.  The first batch of computers were only purchased recently.  Library was truely operational this year (though it was used for a little while last year).  There were only limited co-cirriculum activities starting in 2005.  The plan and timeline of development of school is not transparent to parents at all.  There also seems to be not enough staff (not sure if this results in the recent resignation of teachers). This makes us anxious and uncomfortable.

I wish the school would have great improvement this year.  If it can arhieve its vision, it would be a good choice.  Watch out for the progress in this year to support your decision.

father_ho

Hi everybody,

My son is not study in this school, but I heard of Logo two years ago. Their vision was impressive but the school had a very serious problem, senior management in the school were either came from Education department after retirement or hiring up some over qualified teacher(PhD) in order for show off their background and attract attention(just like commercial tutoring school!!).

This situation will not rectify itself since top management will not "do" it(as a tradition in ED, they just need to say whatever they observed after each academic visit to other countries. They will not consider what the supports from the community are). They will blame their subordinate implement wrongly just like our great former government. Also, the school said before they do not use the commercial books/workbooks, school will create their own. Then who did it?

For those over qualified teacher, either they are not used to teach so low level student or they are insist on their opinion/method(PhD training just like that). Even if there are some teachers still has the heart to education will leave as soon as they can. In any case will make a mess to the school management, those parents can try your best to feel it (I hope I am wrong).

Good luck!

Obewan

Father Ho,

You are correct in some aspect.  Some of the teachers may not have enough experience teaching small kids.  Do we really need PhD to teach primary 1 students ?  

Teachers are required to write the teaching materials (work sheets).  This is good if there is enough resource/manpower to do it.  But apparently, there is not enough staff.  Even the librarian was hired this year.

I hope there would be improvement after three years of experience.

wagner

Do you know which teacher leave the school ?  I do not heard the school say this.  I am uncomfortable to hear about this news.

bbk

雖然囝囝不在此校讀書，但我有一朋友上上年度在此校教書，他對此校的回應是：講一套，做一套。他已失望地離職，並且已很早叫我不要送囝囝入此校...

cow

講一套，做一套。

wagner

The school must organise a meeting with us to clarify the rumours.  It is a big problem if it is true.