如果小朋友是資優兒童,應否"谷"他們?

sandyaloha

大家好,小兒六歲曾參加IQ評估(明日楝樑主辦),只是很基本的測試,有128分,更被邀入優秀學生聯盟,他們說我的兒子應是資優兒童,而我從他各方面觀察,加上在校內的成績,他也有資優生的特質,咁我應該視他如一般小朋友教導?還是給他非常教導?
再者,我本人不太鼓勵太"催谷"小朋友(當時還不知我兒是資優生),只要小朋友能享受"學習快樂,快樂學習"便成了,但如果真的是資優生而不加以培訓,會否有點"浪費"了他們的天賦,又或者他們會覺得所學的不能滿足他們的求知慾,反而變得無心向學?

Sindy

我諗都唔好用個谷字既,滿足佢學習既需要便夠了,資優生通常都有問不完的問題,滿足

sandyaloha

Sindy,
多謝你的回應,我諗我都係順其自然比較好,我唔想咁早就標籤咗佢,可能反而適得其反。
冇錯,我的兒子從幼稚園開始就經常問為什麼?上至天文,下至地理,如果少啲耐性都比佢煩死,我啲耐性都係咁而訓練返來(我以前係十分冇耐性),但亦因此我覺得我的EQ也提升了,因要經常諗計仔對付個仔。

chun2611

Sandyaloha

我個女都有做，佢有135+，我打去問"+"代表什麼，佢地話=plus的意思，所以suggest我同個女再做iq test，我都未知怎樣決定。

有無提議，介紹？

3kidsma

sandyaloha,
你做的測試有冇話小朋友在哪一方面特出, 如視覺空間, 推理, 邏輯思維, 語言等. 可應從他特出的方面培養. 如視覺空間佳, 可培養繪晝, 推理及邏輯思維佳, 可考慮在數理方面落功夫. 這樣會事半功倍.
但需注意一點, I Q高的小朋友, 大都EQ低, 要留意他們的情緒. 不要"急硬來". 他們好有主見的.

DBBoy

To push is counter-productive.  To nuture and motivate is good.  

DBBoy

波波的Daddy

Sandy

我的兒子是個資优兒童，他們有一個特性，就是唔喜
歡做重複的事，性格較反叛，所以討厭背書和抄寫，
換句話說，是不谷得的。若然又資优又谷得，會是萬
中無一。

父母可以做的是培養他的讀書興趣和誘發他學習的自
覺性，否則適得其反。教一個資优孩子較一個普通兒
童要多加倍的心机和耐性。

SLI

Sandy,

I've met many gifted kids , both locally and aboard . They have a very obvious common feature is the infinite quest for knowledge and understanding the mechanism of how things are working.

I would not propose to 'push' them but would prefer to provide them a suitable environment such that they can excel and fulfill this 'black hole' , since they can learn very fast.

SLI :  :

critor

SLI,

Would you elaborate "a suitable environment"?

My friend's daughter is gifted, but she does not have infinite quest for knowledge or understanding of how things operate. Her mom said she behaves just like a normal child. Should she bring her daughter to another IQ test?

critor

SLI

Critor,

First , we have to know in what areas that the kid is gifted, e.g. logical reasoning, maths, language etc.

Then , we can find the matching stimulating environment such as a suitable school / class / course such that the kid can advance and excel.

For the areas that they're gifted and preferably has developed great interests, they can really learn very fast in progress.

The main drawback of IQ test nowadays is that it can only tell the talents in logical/ math, or language aspects; it fails short in other MQ areas such as music, art , kinesthetic(physical) , spatial and social ( interpersonal) etc.

Long-time and careful observation by parents should be able to tell the gifted areas, if in doubt, pls further consult professionals in that areas for confirmation. I hate to see any sustantial waste of talents or gifts of our kids, you know, they're the hope and future of Hong Kong as a whole.  

Hope this can help clear your queries.

SLI   

faith

SLI:
   想問一問有關logical reasoning和 maths 是否可以是兩回事呢，前者普通，後者會好嗎？thanks
      

sandyaloha

Hello everybody,
好多謝各位的回應,個仔剛剛派成績表,成績好滿意,今次考試我沒有特別催谷他,因為今次是小學校生涯的第一次考試,正好作為的對個仔的"試金石",我都好想知佢自己的實力有幾多,希望可以從中知道個仔邊樣比較弱,再搵對策。
但事實話比我知,唔一定要做好多補充練習或者參加各式各樣的訓練班都可以有理想的成績,最重要是如何可以令小朋友投入,如果他們可以從讀書中找到樂趣,佢地自自然然會鞭策自己。
所以,相信我仍會以此作為我的目標,我希望他可以"以有限的資源,發揮其無限的小宇宙"。

SLI

Faith,

Logical reasoning and maths are two different things , but in certain areas would be closely related, like deduction theory . If maths just involves the level at which mostly mechanical calculation of equations and nos., then one can be quite good at it but still be weak in logical reasoning.

Hope this can help clarify your query.

SLI

sandyaloha

Heidi媽,
謝謝你!

我只係係個仔k3時同佢做過一次雷文氏智力測試.過程只需
30分鐘,做60道推理題目,個結果話佢有128分係準資優生(130分或以上為資優),這只是一個初步的估計,我沒有認真同佢做啲什麼智力評估,我估個仔只是比較活躍,介乎普通同資優之間。

我對資優兒沒有什麼研究,我覺得而家啲小朋友普遍都比我地細個時聰明,可能佢地呢代比較幸福,有好多機會同途徑接觸不同的事物,所以反應比較快而已。

我之所以發表呢個topic,係想知果啲有資優兒的家長會點樣裁培佢地啲仔仔女女。

在此感謝各方家長提供好多寶貴意見同回應。

faith

SLI:
     thank you very much!

critor

SLI,

Thank you for your elaboration. My friend said her daughter's IQ score in logical thinking and math is over 150. She is now studying Kumon Math. Is this a good choice?

For training on logical thinking, there does not seem to be any such course in Hong Kong, is there? Your further advice please.

critor

sandyaloha

Heidi 媽,
我個仔做完都唔記得自己做過啲乜,因太多同太近似,佢仲話有啲做唔晒,所以出來的分數唔代表到啲乜。

我的兒子幼稚園時十分活躍(依家都係,不過可以話得聽),好多時想做就去做,速度又快,想制止都來唔切,仲真係玩成日都唔累,精力過剩,我只怕他唔知有冇過度活躍。

但當佢漸漸長大,又唔係想像中咁差,可能懂事左,但依然有用唔完的精力,尤其上左小一,佢可能搵到自己的目標同方向,所以做什麼都好投入(除左啲抄寫),而且個人仲定左好多,人人都唔信佢其實曾經係好佻皮,但佢對自己的要求好高,仲好緊張個結果,我而家又要面對另一難題----就係點樣教佢唔好太注重得失,最重要係享受過程,我唔係唔想佢冇目標,只是小一就有呢啲問題好似早左啲,幾時讀到大學?

Heidi媽,有冇什麼高見可以指點迷津?謝謝!

SLI

Critor,

Your friend can join EPGY program organised by Stanford University ( I believed you can apply via internet or through Infokids locally) for her daughter. This program aims to provide fast-track knowledge acquisition in Maths and Science subjects for gifted kids.
The credits earned in completing these subjects are recognized by Stanford and other world leading  universities like Harvard, UCLA, Cambridge and Oxford.

Kumon is a fair choice, as compared to EPGY program. Logical thinking can be trained by topics called 'Logic' and 'deduction'  in Maths.

SLI