你地會否為了仔女入小學, 做出這樣的行為???

christina

有一天, 朋友同我討論如何選擇小學, 我說我想跨區選校(因心義的小學並不是本人所居住的地區), 但朋友說由於我沒有宗教信仰的關係, 會比較難入. 她說你不如入基督教, 洗禮後就加5分, 你地會否為仔女著想, 會信宗教呢? 但我親眼看到, 學校裏有家長真的為著兒子, 去左洗禮. 但原來佢在家時, 都有拜神位, 這樣做, 是否好似騙人呢? 另一方面, 如果問人借地址, 咁樣又是否不當(有心欺騙)?   :-|

Fish

不會，若果加入獅子會之類組織就無所謂，但宗教，不是兒戲，若果你本身己經信信

Teresa

[quote]
Fish 寫道:
不會，若果加入獅子會之類組織就無所謂，但宗教，不是兒戲，若果你本身己經信信

lam2hei

曾經, 都有朋友提議我
咁做. 但我否定呢個提議, 我令願小朋友
自已選擇. 亦都曾聽有別家長講...
為求入心儀學校, 可以
不擇手段!

我應為有宗教給小朋友讀, 可導小朋友向
善, 所以我會盡量撰擇有
宗教的學校給我的小朋友讀, 如果佢聽得多又
有心向這宗教, 我會由佢自入教(除了不正統的教外)!

至於借地址一事, 我可
接受, 但希望事成後家長可為小朋友
搬家(如果能力可以)以
減小朋友返學的時間. 但話雖如此, 我認同
對其他家長(真正居住該區的)不公平. 因
上一年, 我亦曾...有朋友借地址給其朋友報讀
與我小朋友同一間心儀學校!

Mrssslui

依,呢個topic係'談幼稚園'裡有講過架,你地有興趣都入去睇下!

yeung99

我都曾經有諗過, 仲問曬教會既資料, 但到最後我都無做到, 因為我屋企拜觀音既, 我諗左好耐, 都係對唔住自己個良心同觀音, 所以而家第一輪派位哀左, 為有第大抽獎啦,但我無後悔!!

小蜜蜂

梗係唔會咁做啦, 我識d朋友有宗教分都入唔到心儀

MonicaY

Hi,

Agreed with "Little Bee"'s opinion.  I will not just believe in a particular religion just for the school.  It is not a good moral standard for the kids as well.  This kind of parents is too practical, God will not forgive them.

Just like my daughter, she could not enter the school (Cathalic) we hoped to even though her kindergarden belongs to the same organisation.  But now my daughter is very happy in her present school and ranks within top 3 in Primary 2.  She is now Primary 3, become quite active in school activities.

Monica

WChan

好讚同各位媽咪既睇法, 我公司已經有幾位同事為左想個女多5分入st. mary同mcs個個星期去教會.  好明顯佢地入到既機會就大左好多, 起碼20分有得抽先啦, 我地15分既, 諗都唔洗諗.  佢地成日都勸我為左個女快d入教, 我都無理佢地, 因為我覺得對唔住自己良心, 為左入間好學校要連神都欺騙埋, 仲要迫個女入教, 我真係做唔到同埋好唔認同.  我始終覺得係你既就係你既, 無為太強求.

其實香港政府應該取消宗教分, 教會亦唔應該只收相同宗教既學生, 應該接受不同宗教既人, 等佢地有機會了解佢地既教義, 讓佢地有機會自己選擇入唔入教而唔係比父母迫佢地咁做.

WChan

routingswitch

Agree la.

Borrowing address is more acceptable, if someone really moving to the area if get in.  Not many people afford or will to move first, although that is the more fair action to take.

But why send your kids to the school teaching something you do not agree?  If you don't like Buddhism why send to a Buddhist school?  Same go for Christian school.  Is not about knowing the religion, your kid might be believe in something you don't agree or even against.  There are many good school without religion la.  In my humble opinion, it is not a good teaching to kids.  

Everyone wants the best for their kids but fraud is not one of them la.



  

sisima

agree with wchan

Rachethew

Let me tell you a "successful" case. One of my friend's daughter joined the "school-finding" game this year. Her family is neither Catholic nor Christian, but her daughter was "baptized" both from a Catholic and Christian church. Finally, the girl was successfully got a place from MCS (20 point, 1st girl + religion) after the 1st round; and at the same time, she was accepted by a famous Christian DSS in HK side. So it is fair?

beseem2003

Rachethew 寫道:
Her family is neither Catholic nor Christian, but her daughter was "baptized" both from a Catholic and Christian church.

如果父或母都唔係天主教徒，小朋友無可能領洗個喎？

麟媽媽

係呢…好多時都見BK有人講到洗禮好易咁，但實際教會又捉得好緊的，我覺得….

Beseem2003講無得錯，如果父或母都不是天主教徒，教會係唔會同佢地既仔女洗禮的。就算父母是天主教徒，如果在小朋友三歲前沒有同佢做嬰兒領洗，教會都唔會同小朋友洗禮的。小朋友要上主日學，聽道理班…才安排洗禮事宜，要在K.3之前有領洗紙，睇怕趕唔切喎。

另外基督教，好多基督教派都沒有兒童洗禮的。要證明的只有父母是教徒，由教會方面寫信證明父母常參與教會活動及崇拜等…而小朋友亦有參與如其中如主日學等。

如果一個小朋友要兩邊都可參與其中真係好好野，星期日唔知佢返天主教定基督教的主日學？

beseem2003 寫道:
[quote]
Rachethew 寫道:
Her family is neither Catholic nor Christian, but her daughter was "baptized" both from a Catholic and Christian church.

如果父或母都唔係天主教徒，小朋友無可能領洗個喎？[/quote]

WChan

beseem,

無野係無可能既, 教會有好多分支, 都有好多唔同制度.   我朋友個舅父係神父, 佢都有問過我需唔需要幫個女領洗? 好似話兩歲前領洗既話, 無需父母係教徒(唔知是否正確).

WChan

麟媽媽

神父也不可以隻手遮天吧！教會還有其他人process洗禮document的，如要提交父或母的領洗紙，父母合法結婚證明等等。我知有人會自己去聽慕道班，之後領洗，成為教友之後佢的BB便可作嬰兒領洗。但成人慕道班都要上兩年多的，如果神父咁offer我看佢都是向你作慕道，都要你自己信先領洗，一定不是只有BB洗禮，父母不信不是教徒的。

WChan 寫道:
beseem,

無野係無可能既, 教會有好多分支, 都有好多唔同制度.   我朋友個舅父係神父, 佢都有問過我需唔需要幫個女領洗? 好似話兩歲前領洗既話, 無需父母係教徒(唔知是否正確).

WChan

WChan

麟媽媽,

詳情我真的不十分清楚, 因為已經是幾年前的事, 而且我亦沒打算咁做所以沒有問詳情.  

WChan

哈里波特

自細就咁, 日後點教, 為利是圖. 要有個人主見, 唔係人做你做, 要成功, 要下苦功, 你可以選擇年年玩轉校, 但有d野唔係講玩, 我無信教, 但亦要respect人地教會. 呢個世界本來好多事就唔fair, that why you need to teach your kid not to fall in temptation.

Rachethew 寫道:
Let me tell you a "successful" case. One of my friend's daughter joined the "school-finding" game this year. Her family is neither Catholic nor Christian, but her daughter was "baptized" both from a Catholic and Christian church. Finally, the girl was successfully got a place from MCS (20 point, 1st girl + religion) after the 1st round; and at the same time, she was accepted by a famous Christian DSS in HK side. So it is fair?

routingswitch

Hi stccmc,

Sorry for the missunderstand, may be is my English!
:-|

My comment was replying lam2hei who siad:
"至於借地址一事, 我可
接受, 但希望事成後家長可為小朋友
搬家(如果能力可以)以
減小朋友返學的時間. 但話雖如此, 我認同
對其他家長(真正居住該區的)不公平. 因
上一年, 我亦曾...有朋友借地址給其朋友報讀
與我小朋友同一間心儀學校!"

I agreed, as I understand many parent are under a lot of pressure for schooling issue, and many of them do act without reasoning.

So I said it is "more" acceptable, not "it is acceptable".  i.e. I think it is better then getting in school with different religion as they can actually move to the place.  Of cause, I cannot agree more, the noble thing to do is to move before enroll la, 孟母三遷 ma.

I usually set standard for myself only and try to understand other's motive.
:>

Please also note that I said:
"Everyone wants the best for their kids but fraud is not one of them la."
I thought that would explain my stand point Tim.


By the way, I wouldn't mind my name appearing on TV or newspaper for what I stand for.  But getting a place with dishonest means is not one of them.

Also would you mind your name on TV or newspaper for say "It is not like lying about your own age when you apply for a credit card, which will affect no one but yourself."  It does affect other wor, the bank, the people who works for the bank, the sharer holders, the economies.  However, nowadays HKID copy is required for applying credit card, so hard to lie anyway.

No Offense Intended!