想英文好,德望 (GH) or 聖瑪加利 (SMC) ?

kls12

有親友個女K2, P6 後到外國讀書

想英文好, 讀 德望(GH) or 聖瑪加利 (SMC)  好 ?

catcatmom

一個傳統老牌名校 ; 一間直資新派學校.
一間中學成績可見 ;  一間中學暫無成績.
一間小學要達標先可升回中學 ; 一間今年小6既80位同學全升中一, (全級考第一都升番中學部,因小朋友唔比亞媽轉學校.)
一間外籍與學生比例:   ? ; 一間有16/7位外籍老師.  
一間"谷" ; 一間主張愉快學習.
一間追唔上老師開門見山, 叫家長搵補習; 一間亞副校長話: 追唔上既學生, 在小息老師幫小朋友溫習.

原帖由 kls12 於 08-9-9 11:15 發表
有親友個女K2, P6 後到外國讀書

想英文好, 讀 德望(GH) or 聖瑪加利 (SMC)  好 ?

iristam

唔使諗啦,緊係選德望啦,呢間英文一定好好多,聖瑪加利唔同佢冇得比

catcatmom

見仁見智, 有d人係超級著迷名校.

我個同事個妹讀果間係比德x 還要超班, 會考放榜果日, 我追著佢問亞妹成績, 佢細妹英文 oral 果 part A, 英文科其餘C都無! 補充我朋友屋企係無$,全靠自己讀, 但佢亞妹考試就要全家唔開電視, d細老妹都要出街就佢.



同樣地, 我老細個女又係讀這間超級名校,我老細同佢老婆平日講野都半中半英, 自己兩個又係讀名校.(我老細已60歲, 佢讀書年代,有好多同學係鬼, 因見到檯頭40年前張相.) 屋企又請外藉老師, 佢個女真係成個鬼妹.
好多人都知名校好, 大部份係家庭既支援.

原帖由 iristam 於 08-9-10 11:29 發表
唔使諗啦,緊係選德望啦,呢間英文一定好好多,聖瑪加利唔同佢冇得比

[ 本帖最後由 catcatmom 於 08-9-10 13:48 編輯 ]

G-Ma

朋友囡囡係德望小學讀咗6年, 跟得好辛苦, 補習之後都係追唔上, 結果升唔返上中學.  呢6年令到囡囡好無自信心, 因為係學校佢係籮底橙, 成日要見家長, 唔係因為佢頑皮, 係因為學校覺得佢成績唔得.  攪到佢成日都頭dup dup咁.

宜家佢去咗間band2頭既中學, 個人就生猛哂, 讀書都有返自信.

所以唔好因為追捧名校就盲目選擇, 量力而為先係最緊要, 入學校唔只係學知識, 對於建立個人自信, 性格, 學校既影響都會好大.

G-Ma

朋友囡囡係德望小學讀咗6年, 跟得好辛苦, 補習之後都係追唔上, 結果升唔返上中學.  呢6年令到囡囡好無自信心, 因為係學校佢係籮底橙, 成日要見家長, 唔係因為佢頑皮, 係因為學校覺得佢成績唔得.  攪到佢成日都頭dup dup咁.

宜家佢去咗間band2頭既中學, 個人就生猛哂, 讀書都有返自信.

所以唔好因為追捧名校就盲目選擇, 量力而為先係最緊要, 入學校唔只係學知識, 對於建立個人自信, 性格, 學校既影響都會好大.

monkeydad

Iris,

Proficiency of a language comes with practice and a good practising environment is of crucial importance.

You said St Margaret is not as good as Good Hope and I would agree only to the extent that it has not yet built up its performance track record given his short history of being a direct subsidized school (only 5 years).

We gave up other DSSs and chose St Margaret on consideration of (1) provision of an excellent English speaking environment; (2) advocation of the importance of multi-cultural which is very important in context of globalization - study of modern language and admission of >20% non-Chinese students; (3) launch of development of multi-talents - P1 and P2 students are mandatory to enroll all the 14 school set extra-curriculum activities before they determine their preference in P3; (4) caring teaching staff - we were deeply impressed in the 2nd interview that the vice principal could exactly describe the strengths and weakness of my boy from what she or other teachers observed in the 1st interview.  Parents are given the direct lines (with mail box system) of all the teachers concerned.  Even the security lady at the gate is very friendly and helpful.

I would say the students St Margaret chosen are not "the best" at the moment but I am quite confident that the school is earning its reputation with efforts paid.

St Margaret is a modern qualitative school that is good fit for further study abroad given the language environment and its multi-cultural nature.

原帖由 iristam 於 08-9-10 11:29 發表
唔使諗啦,緊係選德望啦,呢間英文一定好好多,聖瑪加利唔同佢冇得比

kls12

照睇,成績好的,就應該讀德望,穩穩陣陣

也看到一點,讀聖瑪加利的家長,分析力很強,選聖瑪加利是經過深思熟慮

catcatmom

我有德望2005年會考成績, 係佢自己既website搵到,
ENG LANG (SYL B), 207人中有104人A-C ; 103 D-E.

原帖由 kls12 於 08-9-10 21:52 發表
照睇,成績好的,就應該讀德望,穩穩陣陣

也看到一點,讀聖瑪加利的家長,分析力很強,選聖瑪加利是經過深思熟慮

catcatmom

ENG LIT 既成績係 :

ENG LIT

110人

20A-C

77D-E

7 (F)

6 (U)

原帖由 kls12 於 08-9-10 21:52 發表
照睇,成績好的,就應該讀德望,穩穩陣陣

也看到一點,讀聖瑪加利的家長,分析力很強,選聖瑪加利是經過深思熟慮

GoCanucksGo

GHS result in 2008 is way better (click here)

            

Subjects	No.         Sat	5*-4	3-2	1	Absent
CHIN         LANG (CAN)	39	8	30	1	0
CHIN         LANG (PTH)	111	38	69	4	0
ENG  LANG	154	136	18	0	0

88% of students get a 4 or above.

原帖由 catcatmom 於 08-9-11 13:36 發表
ENG LIT 既成績係 :
ENG LIT
110人
20A-C
77D-E
7 (F)
6 (U)

[ 本帖最後由 GoCanucksGo 於 08-9-11 13:52 編輯 ]

littlesister

如果只係想學好英文, 有好多選擇, 仲可以揾一間好既國際學校, 英文一定會比 o係gh 和 sm讀好!!!

不過, 讀書唔單止睇呢樣野, 仲要培養佢既自信, 學校興趣, 自學能力和德育等, 有好多名校係用多功課多評估黎訓練小朋友, 有d標榜愉快學習既學校又有愉快但學唔到野(我唔係話sm), 最緊要睇下適唔適合個小朋友既性格, 因材施教, 研究清楚教學方式啱唔啱自己小朋友

catcatmom

好多人評論　07或者08 既英語會考都係大豐收年．因為ｄ考試係淺左，特別係英文．(2007 起 用 5*,5 和4 級代替 A,B 和C級) 　

http://paper.wenweipo.com/2007/10/29/HK0710290065.htm

一間有收ｂａｎｄ２學生既沙田津貼中學既表現，而會考英文（syl B）科優良比率（4級）有47%．　

　　

原帖由 GoCanucksGo 於 08-9-11 13:50 發表
GHS result in 2008 is way better (click here)

            SubjectsNo.         Sat5*-43-21AbsentCHIN         LANG (CAN)3983010CHIN         LANG (PTH)111386940ENG  LANG         154
      1361800
88% of ...

[ 本帖最後由 catcatmom 於 08-9-11 16:18 編輯 ]

little-duck

Students studying in SM have flexibility in studying both locally or abroad in the future based on the followings:

1) students used to study in an English environment (it makes them no difficulty in adapting English learning environment overseas)
    - so far, I see the teachers & staffs are speaking English with the students even outside the classroom.
    - some students are speaking with each others in English outside the classroom (very fluently) but of course the majority of Chinese are still speaking Cantonese when they're not in the class.

2) the school is offering local curriculum that makes students can continue their study locally.

The above is only my point of view.  Any other comments are welcomed!

原帖由 monkeydad 於 08-9-10 17:44 發表
Iris,

Proficiency of a language comes with practice and a good practising environment is of crucial importance.

You said St Margaret is not as good as Good Hope and I would agree only to the extent  ...

kls12

原帖由 little-duck 於 08-9-11 20:08 發表
Students studying in SM have flexibility in studying both locally or abroad in the future based on the followings:

1) students used to study in an English environment (it makes them no difficulty in  ...

但有沒有成績看到,有沒有插班入來的成績及人數?
有沒有插班出去的成績及人數?
升中後,原校的成績好還是校外生好?
那一年才有會考生?

little-duck

Hi kls12,

Sorry that I don't have any info of your questions.  We put our girl in only because we love the school's language environment and their concept.  If you want to know more, you may attend the school's talk for the coming P1 applicaton.  The flexibility of studying abroad/locally is only my own point of view!

原帖由 kls12 於 08-9-11 20:25 發表


但有沒有成績看到,有沒有插班入來的成績及人數?
有沒有插班出去的成績及人數?
升中後,原校的成績好還是校外生好?
那一年才有會考生?

ChapmanMa

Hi little-duck,
Do you speak / communicate with your kid with English even home all the time ? As we are not native english person, sometimes, I'm afraid my English is not so native enough.   

原帖由 little-duck 於 08-9-11 20:08 發表
Students studying in SM have flexibility in studying both locally or abroad in the future based on the followings:

1) students used to study in an English environment (it makes them no difficulty in  ...

G-Ma

其實係屋企如果可以用英語溝通梗係有幫助啦, 但又唔係一定必須既, 因為中文都同樣重要.  係屋企多D睇英文TV都已經好好.

原帖由 ChapmanMa 於 08-9-14 23:17 發表
Hi little-duck,
Do you speak / communicate with your kid with English even home all the time ? As we are not native english person, sometimes, I'm afraid my English is not so native enough.   


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little-duck

Hi ChapmanMa,

I used to communicate with my kid in English in majority in the past but have switched to more Cantonese this year.  Since I'm not a native speaker, my accent is not very accurate also but the English environment I created for her does help!

Of course some parents will think that accent for learning a foreign language is very important and one shouldn't speak a foreign language with their kids if they're not native.  (If we can provide an English environment in a very native accent to our kids, that's perfect of course.  However, if we can't provide the "butter", at least we can give them some "bread" to fill up their stomach.)  In my humble view, there's not only a single accent in the English world unless you only stay in a rural English-speaking country.  In the existing globalized world, the first thing I concern is to arm my kid with the basic communication skill, i.e. at least he/she can understand/speak with an English-speaker (Putonghua is also important indeed).

Frankly, some teachers in the schools can't pronounce very native accent but they also teach their classes in English everyday.  Even you're in an international school, it'll have teachers and classmates from other countries out of English-speaking one, like European, Indian, Japanese & etc.

If the above paragraph offends someone, I apologize.

原帖由 ChapmanMa 於 08-9-14 23:17 發表
Hi little-duck,
Do you speak / communicate with your kid with English even home all the time ? As we are not native english person, sometimes, I'm afraid my English is not so native enough.   


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