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beastiebistro 發表於 25-8-20 15:44
呢個正正係香港教育制度變態嘅地方。莫講話英國大學唔會當醫科係神科，佢哋亦講明為公平，無論咩大學咩科目 ...

真係得香港人大陸人先會鬥多科，做無謂野

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morningsun 發表於 25-8-20 14:06
4A* 太多，基本上也分不出哪些是真正尖子生，所以神科對收4A* 都很謹慎，如果是尖子 5A* 才有競爭力。 ...

IAL 是一門生意, 顧客很開心, 個個都係狀元.
但係大學要考附加试像TMUA等等...

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呢個正正係香港教育制度變態嘅地方。莫講話英國大學唔會當醫科係神科，佢哋亦講明為公平，無論咩大學咩科目，都只係consider三科A level。例如要真正揾出適合讀醫嘅學生，唔係一味考多啲科攞多啲星星（集郵咩），而係經interview同埋專科入學試（UCAT）去篩選，就算牛／劍出offer一樣只係計三個A level。個人認為鬥高分鬥考多科入醫（或者其他神科）根本就係好無謂...

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猴子爸發表於 25-8-20 11:22
除了各自考试各层次的百分比分布外，最顶尖层次学生被收进神科后，就被发现，DSE和IB比较靠谱，AL的学生真 ...

4A* 太多，基本上也分不出哪些是真正尖子生，所以神科對收4A* 都很謹慎，如果是尖子 5A* 才有競爭力。

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Poyau 發表於 25-8-20 01:29
England 2025 A level
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≥5A* 0.01%(35/281,80 ...

除了各自考试各层次的百分比分布外，最顶尖层次学生被收进神科后，就被发现，DSE和IB比较靠谱，AL的学生真正实力上下波幅比较大，所以神科在收生上也会作出调整。

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猴子爸發表於 25-8-19 17:50
避开中文是一件事，也真的唯有iAL可以，但问题是整个iAL成绩的份量，对比DSE和IB，似乎越来越低， ...

IBDP May 2025 滿45 ~0.3%
43+ > DSE 日校考生五科30+ 比例
40+ 9.32%(9,459/101,510)

https://www.ibo.org/about-the-ib/facts-and-figures/statistical-bulletins/diploma-programme-and-career-related-programme-statistical-bulletin/

May 2025 assessment session

The latest Diploma Programme (DP) and Career-Related Programme (CP) provisional statistical bulletin (PDF, 3.1 MB) contains summary statistics for the May 2025 assessment session. Comparisons with previous years' statistics are also made in the document.

https://www.ibo.org/globalassets/new-structure/about-the-ib/pdfs/dpcp-provisional-statistical-bulletin-may-2025_en.pdf

http://web.archive.org/web/20250819135941/https://www.ibo.org/globalassets/new-structure/about-the-ib/pdfs/dpcp-provisional-statistical-bulletin-may-2025_en.pdf

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猴子爸發表於 25-8-19 12:40
这样的grade inlfation, iAL很快会变成鸡肋，神科都不会太看重。

England 2025 A level
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≥5A* 0.01%(35/281,800^)
≥4A* 0.7%^

≥5A* 0.005%(35/643,185^^)
≥4A* 0.3%^^

Base number
^ 2025 AL Aged 18 candidates
^^ 2023 GCSE Aged 16 candidates

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/qualification-results-in-england-summer-2025

https://analytics.ofqual.gov.uk/apps/GCSEandGCE/SummaryStats/

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猴子爸發表於 25-8-19 12:40
这样的grade inlfation, iAL很快会变成鸡肋，神科都不会太看重。

DSE 2025 332A+22 積點分佈
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日校考生 42,589
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積點 3C+2X | 任何五科
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33+ 0.32%(135) | 0.55%(236)
30+ 1.34%(570) | 1.84%(784)
27+ 3.79%(1,673) | 4.52%(1,923)

https://www.hkeaa.edu.hk/DocLibrary/Media/PR/HKDSE25_ResultsReleased_tc.pdf

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猴子爸發表於 25-8-19 12:40
这样的grade inlfation, iAL很快会变成鸡肋，神科都不会太看重。

神科以兩大醫科為例 AL要求 4A*
中大更需 4A*(≥95%) 不計FM
放洋考AL入兩大讀醫未必易過DSE?

https://hkumed-ugadmissions.hku.hk/ug_programmes/bachelor-of-medicine-and-bachelor-of-surgery/#_section-2

https://www.med.cuhk.edu.hk/study/prospective-students/undergraduate-study/programme-and-admission/mbchb-and-gps/admissions/non-jupas

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KikiDaddy 發表於 25-8-19 19:24
At least IB students have a choice according to their language proficiency.

Many Band 1 boys' scho ...

For hku and ust, students are admitted to specific programmes if their scores are higher than the median even Chinese is 2. CU probably has similar policy. Most programmes count best 5 whereas a few count best 6. Chinese language can be neglected even it is 2.
So not necessarily a less preferable programme.

The importance of Chinese is not as strong as before, except for law, Chinese language related programmes and mbchb.

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nhi 發表於 25-8-19 19:41
As long as they have good grade in other subjects, dse grade 2 in Chinese is no longer a hindrance. ...

36 + 2 for MBBS is a rare exception. This applicant must have a very impressive ECA / interview performance to get an offer. The school has plenty quality JUPAS and Non JUPAS applicants to choose.

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nhi 發表於 25-8-19 19:41
As long as they have good grade in other subjects, dse grade 2 in Chinese is no longer a hindrance. ...

Yes, it is now more flexible than before but 3 in Chinese is almost a must for competitive programmes. Like HKU MBBS requires a 3 and LLB requires a 4.
If you get a 2, you need to discount your overall score and eventually be admitted to a less preferable university / programme.

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KikiDaddy 發表於 25-8-19 19:24
At least IB students have a choice according to their language proficiency.

Many Band 1 boys' scho ...

As long as they have good grade in other subjects, dse grade 2 in Chinese is no longer a hindrance.
PS, if score is greater than median, students are admitted even Chinese is 2

An example is 36+2( Chinese) in 2022 by mbbs.

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nhi 發表於 25-8-19 18:34
For those students taking Chinese B HL, they are required to take English A which is for natives. DS ...

At least IB students have a choice according to their language proficiency.

Many Band 1 boys' schools have about 20% students cannot get a 3 in DSE Chinese. If these students can choose IAL English and IGSE Chinese as an alternative to DSE, much less students will be rejected by the universities due to a 2 in Chinese.

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KikiDaddy 發表於 25-8-19 18:26
Local universities will adjust their admission requirements for IAL applicants. Like CU MbChb, it r ...

For those students taking Chinese B HL, they are required to take English A which is for natives. DSE English is at proficiency of second language level.
So this is fair

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猴子爸發表於 25-8-19 17:50
避开中文是一件事，也真的唯有iAL可以，但问题是整个iAL成绩的份量，对比DSE和IB，似乎越来越低， ...

Local universities will adjust their admission requirements for IAL applicants. Like CU MbChb, it requires 4A* 95UMS which is not easy comparing to DSE 35.

Avoidance of DSE Chinese is still the key advantage of local Non JUPAS. This is applicable to IB as well.

For IB, most of the local students can choose Chinese B which is supposed to be for students learning Chinese as a second language.

For DSS schools IAL/IB students, they had studied the same Chinese curriculum as their DSE counterparts for 9 or10 years. All in a sudden, they become NCS in local Non JUPAS. This is not fair at all to the DSE students.

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KikiDaddy 發表於 25-8-19 15:34
The biggest advantage of IAL is to avoid the tricky DSE Chinese.

For Non JUPAS admission, local un ...

避开中文是一件事，也真的唯有iAL可以，但问题是整个iAL成绩的份量，对比DSE和IB，似乎越来越低，

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