英國私校加稅20% 有冇人改變計劃

5Anne

原本諗住送小朋友去依家要諗諗
過兩年讀一年淨學費都六七十萬
萬一讀讀下英鎊升 一百萬一年不是夢

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yuyueng 發表於 24-9-3 12:15
出名嘅大把人讀，加到一年十萬鎊都唔驚，係果D細校同唔出名嘅可能要執笠。 ...

‘We’re not sitting on millions’: Private school parents attack Labour over closure

By Adam Forrest

Scotland Correspondent

September 3, 2024 9:00 am

https://inews.co.uk/news/private-school-parents-attack-labour-vat-closure-3256850

Families from Cedars School in Scotland, which is closing after the VAT policy was announced, have accused Keir Starmer of ‘resentment’ politics

Parents affected by the closure of a private school have attacked Labour’s policy to introduce 20 per cent VAT on the institutions after scrambling to find new places for their children.

One father accused the Government’s levy of being “borne of resentment” of families who send their children to private schools, adding that he could not afford to pay higher fees.

Chancellor Rachel Reeves announced in late July that private schools will start paying VAT from January 2025 to help fund thousands more teachers in the state sector.

While proponents say the policy – which will apply across the UK – will help the struggling state school sector, others say it will put more strain on fee-paying parents and cause some institutions to collapse. Labour previously said schools would be able to absorb the fees and that parents may not have to pay more.

Cedars School in Greenock, near Glasgow, was one of two fee-paying, independent schools in Scotland that announced closures in August.

The board of the small Christian school told i that Labour’s tax plan was the “straw the straw that broke the camel’s back”.

Douglas Marks, whose 12 and 14-year-old sons went to Cedars School, told i it appeared Labour was “happy to make families like us suffer”.

Mr Marks, a lecturer in behavioural sciences, and his wife were paying around £15,600 a year in fees for their two children.

After the school announced it was closing on 13 August, the couple decided there was not an affordable alternative in the private sector for their sons.

Instead, they joined the scramble to find a place for them at a local comprehensive before term started in late August.

“We hope they will be fine. I worry about the bigger class sizes, but they will adjust,” said Mr Marks.

“We’re not elitists. We’re not wealthy people sitting on millions. We couldn’t stretch to pay anymore. We would have had to sell our house, move somewhere smaller with a smaller mortgage to put the children in another private school.

“I think the policy is borne of resentment. I think they are resentful because they see people around them who have gone to Eton and other big private schools and think those people got a hand up.

“But the smaller independent schools are not like Eton – they don’t have huge funds. So more independent schools will close. And these are schools that are saving the state sector from finding and funding more places. So tearing us down isn’t socialism – it isn’t helping anyone.”

The Labour manifesto said ending the VAT exemption on private school fees would pay for 6,500 extra teachers in the public sector and 3,000 new nurseries.

The Institute for Fiscal Studies has said it could bring in £1.3bn to £1.5bn a year – adjusting for a three to seven per cent reduction in private school rolls if some parents are forced to pull their children out the sector.

Sir Keir Starmer said during the general election campaign there was no reason to believe these schools would have to close because of the 20 per cent levy.

The Prime Minister said the private schools would “adapt” to the VAT, arguing that they did not have to “pass on the costs” to parents in increased fees.

It emerged at the weekend that Eton College has told parents it is raising fees by 20 per cent to around £63,000 for most families as a result of the VAT policy.

The Cedars School board told i the school decided it could not afford to absorb the looming annual VAT bill of around £110,000.

They said a “significant proportion” of parents had also made clear after a meeting in early August that they would have to pull their children out of the school rather than pay any extra in fees.

“The school has had underlying financial problems – student numbers was an underlying problem,” said the spokesperson. “But the VAT decision is the straw that broke the camel’s back.”

The school is only staying open until late September to help the remaining families with the adjustment.

Martin Shaw, whose 14-year-old stepdaughter went to Cedars School, said the last few weeks has been “a nightmare for families”, adding that “many of them are still distraught”.

He is angry at the “misguided” Labour policy. “It’s Labour trying to sell themselves to people who have a problem with the idea of private schools,” he told i. “It’s surprising from Keir Starmer, because it’s Jeremy Corbyn stuff.”

But Mr Shaw is also angry at the school board for rejecting a proposal by a group of parents to raise funds to keep it going. He said they already had a commitment of £60,000 from families and a local business.

“We made clear there was still a chance for the school. I think we could have filled the gap. But they knocked back our ideas.”

Kilgraston School in Perthshire, a Catholic boarding school, announced in August that it was shutting down with immediate effect. The board of trustees said Labour’s VAT move was a factor in the closure.

Alton School in Hampshire and Downham Preparatory School in Norfolk have also announced their intention to shut, with both citing the looming VAT bill as a reason for closure.

Rudolf Eliott Lockhart, chief executive of the Independent Schools Association, called on the Government to create exemptions for smaller and financially fragile schools. “Some schools may not survive, leading to more closures than usual,” he said of the VAT change.

A Government spokesperson said: “We want to ensure all children have the best chance in life to succeed. Ending tax breaks on private schools will help to raise the revenue needed to fund our education priorities for next year, such as recruiting 6,500 new teachers.”

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Sana2010 發表於 24-9-1 15:09
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加幅已在本地引起討論

Private school to absorb VAT changes until July

7 days ago

Ashlea Tracey

BBC News, Isle of Man

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0k41rgrnk8o

King William’s College opened on the Isle of Man in August 1833

The Isle of Man's only private school has confirmed it will absorb the costs of planned VAT changes for the 2025 spring and summer terms.

It follows the UK government's announcement in July that VAT at the standard rate of 20% will be added to private school fees from 1 January 2025.

King William’s College (KWC) said the move would provide families with "financial stability" and any future fee changes would be confirmed by Easter.

The Isle of Man government said it was working with the school "to understand how they might navigate through this transition and where we might assist".

An agreement between the two jurisdictions means the island is required to keep its customs and excise duties in line with those in the UK.

'Sustainable future'

Under the current rules, private schools do not have to charge VAT on their fees because of a legal exemption for organisations providing education.

But the UK government has said removing that exemption would fund 6,500 new teachers in England.

KWC, which has about 430 pupils, said the Manx government had committed to working with the school to "ensure a sustainable future" and to explore potential solutions to "mitigate the impact of this change".

Principal Damian Henderson said discussions with government "about the importance of maintaining independent education on the island" had been "positive".

The Isle of Man government said both the Treasury and the Department for Enterprise recognised "the role KWC played in providing educational services on the island, as well as the economic contribution it generates as a result".

The school recently announced plans to move the junior Buchan School to the King William's College site in Castletown in a bid to save money.

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yuyueng 發表於 24-9-3 12:15
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Catholic private school serving working-class families has to close due to Labour’s VAT change  

The Catholic Herald

September 4, 2024 at 11:30 am

https://catholicherald.co.uk/catholic-private-school-serving-working-class-families-has-to-close-due-to-labours-vat-change/

A small independent Catholic school in one of the most deprived areas of England is closing due to the new Labour government’s plan to remove the tax exemption for private schools and impose VAT on school fees.

St Joseph’s Preparatory School in Stoke-on-Trent in the West Midlands has said that the “incredibly difficult” decision was made due to the “changes coming regarding independent school funding”, while emphasising that its working-class parents could not afford the increase in fees resulting from the government’s new policy, reports the Daily Telegraph.

St Joseph’s has been described as a “flagship” secondary school due to its mission and role in the area it served. It was founded by Edmund Rice and its mission was to provide “a quiet place for spiritual growth in a fast-paced modern world”.

“The parents at St Joseph’s Prep are not the parents at some of the very grand independent schools,” says Roisin Maguire, who helps oversee the school in her capacity as Director of Schools for England with Edmund Rice Network England, a Catholic schools network and part of the Edmund Rice Foundation. “They are people who do without things to provide the very best education for their child.”

Maguire, who also was the school’s headteacher for 12 years, adds: “The school was just about breaking even with a little bit of support from the trustees, but they do not have the finances to keep funding an additional 20 per cent and then having to pay business rates as well.”

On 2 September, the first day of the new school year in England, the school told parents it will close on December 31, one day before the Government’s 20 per cent levy on school fees begins.

The school says that its priority now is to help find places for its 80 pupils, aged between of 3 and 12, in new schools – halfway through the school year – though the school has already had parents notify it that their children won’t be coming back.

St Joseph’s charges up to £3,415 per term, almost 50 percent less than the average private school (£6,021), according to the Independent Schools Council, reports the Telegraph.  

It notes that the VAT levy would have added £2,049 per year to the fees, while raising less than £165,000 annually for the Government.

Ms Maguire also highlights that it is smaller private schools in less affluent areas that will suffer under Labour’s policy.

“This is a school in one of the most deprived areas in the country in Stoke-on-Trent,” she told the Telegraph. “It’s not serving a wealthy affluent population”

She added: “I know what people say, if those parents chose [private education], they should pay everything, but actually those parents already pay their taxes and… some are working class people who have worked really hard.

“And when Keir Starmer says, ‘Oh, well, the trustees of these charities will be able to pick this up and pay it from their reserves’; perhaps that’s the case at some schools where they have huge sums of money, millions of pounds invested, but that’s not the case for this small school.
“More and more of these small independent schools which are serving a real need in their area will literally close.”

A press release from the school’s board of trustees states:
“The Trustees would wish to acknowledge the commitment of parents, governors and staff of St Joseph’s Prep and would wish to thank all those involved who have served and committed their time, in the interests of ensuring the children have received an excellent education.”

It adds: “Our prayers are with everybody at this heartbreaking time.”
During the sudden closure in August of Kilgraston School, Scotland’s only Catholic boarding school, the school said “the possible impact of VAT on school fees” was a factor in the decision to close, due to pupil numbers already being perilously low for the school to be sustainable.

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yuyueng 發表於 24-9-3 12:15
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Greenock independent school closes due to VAT imposition
14th August 2024
https://independentschoolmanagement.co.uk/news/greenock-independent-school-closes-due-to-vat-imposition/

Greenock independent school closes due to VAT imposition

 14th August 2024

Cedars School in Greenock, Inverclyde will close at the end of September, despite a desperate attempt by parents to save it by raising £50,000, the Greenock Telegraph has reported.

However, the board of the school, and the board of its parent charity Struthers Memorial Church, confirmed the school will close with 14 job losses – eight full-time teaching staff, five part-time teaching staff and a full-time administrator.

The school teaches children aged from five to 18.

Jennifer Offord, chair of Cedars’ board, said: “We are deeply saddened to report that Cedars will close on Friday, September 27, after 25 years offering a caring and Christian education to children in Inverclyde and the surrounding areas.

“Our thoughts and prayers are first for our pupils, parents, staff and volunteers but also our friends and supporters, who have faithfully and sacrificially given to keep the school operating over many years.”

Cedars’ head teacher Emma Rukin commented: “I am immensely proud of what Cedars has achieved and the lasting, positive impact it has had on young lives in our area. Our pupils will be seeking placement in alternative schools and we are working closely with local authorities to secure these places and to support pupils through the change.

“We will also work to support our exceptional, dedicated and caring staff who will be seeking alternative employment.”

In a communication to parents the school stated it was closing due to the new Labour government’s decision to add VAT onto private school fees from January next year, and that Struthers wouldn’t be able to absorb the cost of a VAT-related fee increase due to having insufficient reserves.

The school also blamed a drop in the school’s roll, which was down to 76 prior to the VAT announcement, with efforts to market the school failing to reverse the decline.

On the imposition of VAT, the school said: “The timing of the surprise general election and the announcement two weeks ago, within four weeks of being elected, that the government would implement their manifesto pledge with effect from January 1 took most commentators by surprise.”

The Labour MP Martin McCluskey, in whose constituency the school sits, said: “Labour was clear during the election that we could no longer justify tax breaks for private schools while our state schools lacked much needed investment.

“The cost of the VAT tax break for private schools is over £1 billion a year. By ending the tax break for private schools, we will release £150 million that can be invested in state schools across Scotland.

“Some have suggested that this policy has come as a surprise, but it has been Labour policy for many years, and was re-announced last January. We were clear in our manifesto that if we won the election we would deliver on this pledge.

“Many private schools have made preparations to respond to this, including through use of their own reserves or through an increase in fees.

“I have been in touch with the director of education at Inverclyde Council who has assured me that there are places available in Inverclyde schools for any child who is affected by any decision the school may make to close. The council has also offered to support families through the enrolment process.”

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yuyueng 發表於 24-9-3 12:15
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Perthshire boarding school closes after sale falls through
13 August 2024
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98436yj7l0o

A Perthshire boarding school has closed with immediate effect after a planned sale fell through.

Kilgraston School in Bridge of Earn said education provider Achieve Education had "reassessed its commitment to investing in the school."

······

"Education provider Achieve Education stepped in to financially support and manage the school in the short term and to buy the school in the longer term."

Achieve Education had initially planned to purchase the school last month.

In a letter to parents, it said that the provider's chairman was suffering from ill health, which had led him to reassess his commitment to the purchase.

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Littlepa 發表於 24-9-3 12:48
Hello,

請問是否加中學, 去讀大學有無影響?

去英國讀大學，交international fees的話，一向都係年年加學費，少就幾%，有d 會加多d， 我孩子嗰間今年加10%。

加20% VAT，係independent schools。

ANChan59

Littlepa 發表於 24-9-3 12:48
Hello,

請問是否加中學, 去讀大學有無影響?

只係加私立中學學費VAT，其他中學學費冇影響。

Littlepa

Hello,

請問是否加中學, 去讀大學有無影響?

Thx!

yuyueng

Sana2010 發表於 24-9-1 15:09
本帖最後由 Sana2010 於 24-9-1 15:10 編輯

加幅已在本地引起討論

出名嘅大把人讀，加到一年十萬鎊都唔驚，係果D細校同唔出名嘅可能要執笠。

sumikogurashi

Lynnwc 發表於 24-8-31 23:52
唔會20%啦，啲私校應該會退返啲，我估加幅8-12%左右。平時佢地啲私校都會加價，所以no big deal~
...

唔係間間會退返啲，無咁理想化

Sana2010

Lynnwc 發表於 24-8-31 23:52
唔會20%啦，啲私校應該會退返啲，我估加幅8-12%左右。平時佢地啲私校都會加價，所以no big deal~
...

加幅已在本地引起討論

Eton College will pass on full cost of 20% VAT to parents

The school says it will absorb the cost only for pupils on bursaries, as fees increase to more than £63,000 per annum from January under Labour’s tax reform

https://www.thetimes.com/article/3fbec730-288c-4a14-b91e-a042c94c7ca1?shareToken=3cff257bc445f9764343feeac522241c

ANChan59

FNN 發表於 24-9-1 12:17
係，吹水啫。如果咁叻，基本上冇人讀書。係IB換成美金要蝕價，兩年前應該用英磅買哂黃金ETF，掂哂！不過年 ...

非常好

FNN

ANChan59 發表於 24-9-1 04:11
純吹水。

你這個是best scenario操作，還有其他操作方式。

係，吹水啫。如果咁叻，基本上冇人讀書。係IB換成美金要蝕價，兩年前應該用英磅買哂黃金ETF，掂哂！不過年青人喜歡買NVIDIA，都應該吾差。

ANChan59

FNN 發表於 24-9-1 01:45
陳Sir:

你講得冇錯，呢兩年讀書係免費的。如果可以Capture 到卓小姐落台之前幾日用8.2或8.3換英磅，舊年 ...

純吹水。

你這個是best scenario操作，還有其他操作方式。

阿仔兩年多前開始，每個月月底在出糧戶口將人工轉去Chase，month end 利息按最後一日結餘計息，然後轉去IB再換成美金，再分派不同戶口作ISA或者其他投資安排，包括定期存款。

FNN

ANChan59 發表於 24-8-27 17:23
如果入幾年英鎊，財息兼收。

陳Sir:

你講得冇錯，呢兩年讀書係免費的。如果可以Capture 到卓小姐落台之前幾日用8.2或8.3換英磅，舊年成年定期五釐以上 （到今日仲有4.6%），放一百䓪美金或以上做定期，讀完二年，基本上係財息兼收的。

sleung2020

yuyueng 發表於 24-8-6 20:38
會唔會考慮去北愛D寄宿學校？平好多。

學校麻麻，有啲無謂

sleung2020

losoco 發表於 24-8-24 12:44
對讀大學有冇影響?

希望佢快減息，令英鎊跌番少少

減咗息已經升咗，再減唔一定會跌

sleung2020

5Anne 發表於 24-8-6 12:32
原本諗住送小朋友去依家要諗諗
過兩年讀一年淨學費都六七十萬
萬一讀讀下英鎊升 一百萬一年不是夢

一定有人會