How to prep for US College admission starting from Year 9

JBI1604

Dear all knowledgeable and experienced parents, we are newcomers to the international education system (ESF secondary), and we are aware that ESF students do not possess specific advantages when applying to colleges in the US. However, this does not mean that it is impossible, as numerous successful cases have been well-documented in the past decades.

How can a Year 9 student begin preparing for the college application process? What if the student lacks an outgoing personality and struggles to meet the well-rounded requirements? How can we help them to overcome these obstacles and discover a genuine passion for their future academic pursuits? Thank you for your sharing.

mizuho

saikungmom 發表於 23-8-27 23:07
My son just graduated from ESF. He got into Michigan and UCLA plus a few others during the regular r ...

Wow congrats!  Excellent results!
U Mich, UCLA, UCB these are all great schools

whoo99

不過大學話應試教育我又未必好同意，感覺應該係比較重視學術理論教育。無關好壞，只是不同。

JBI1604

saikungmom 發表於 23-8-27 23:07
My son just graduated from ESF. He got into Michigan and UCLA plus a few others during the regular r ...

Thank you for your sharing and this is very encouraging. Your son seems to be an outgoing person with high expectations in his own self.
My child has been going to a local elite school since young before switching to ESF. She is still very much wanting to return to her old school because it is her comfort zone.
Her personality has changed quite a bit during the Covid years and getting more introvert. Even her language/ writing skill is good, but she is not an outspoken type of person and refuses to do any work to improve her  weakness (eg public speaking). Apparently she’s an introvert. Her stubbornness is the major obstacle to allow her to advance herself. What can I do to help her?

whoo99

十分之感謝！

1、建議如果沒有特別的考量，不要因為世界排名以及往後的落戶之類的福利影響了你的判斷——就是想呢樣的分析與討論，先就教育談教育，然後再加其他考量

2、理科太多可以說的了hh，以後再說。有些人非常討厭 Oxbridge 的應試教育，有些人不喜歡美本的通識教育——也聽聞OXbridge各科好似理論都學得好深，其實以家特別理科工科教育到底怎樣更好，好似聽到好多不同意見，自己完全非領域內，其實都好想了解，如果有更新，再分享討論啊

barque

whoo99 發表於 23-8-25 18:20
其實我都好想了解英國和美國大學的分別，除著3年與4年，專科與通識，幾年下來，到底有咩不同感受，覺得要都 ...

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whoo99

beastiebistro 發表於 23-8-29 09:46
我覺得同美國「提告」文化都有少少關係。學校有冇盡所有力去防止自殺？ 賠償分分鍾數以千萬計... ...

同意，不過校園裡呢樣的提告也是俾人壓力，也可能見怪唔怪，習慣著

whoo99

twhkleung 發表於 23-8-29 10:53
唔怪得呀仔都未开学，可來压力，但已收到大学emails，講好多mental health 既野，重有多种24小時hotlines, ...

係，我也想，讀個書，且只是本科，點解搞嘎麻煩

twhkleung

beastiebistro 發表於 23-8-29 09:46
我覺得同美國「提告」文化都有少少關係。學校有冇盡所有力去防止自殺？ 賠償分分鍾數以千萬計... ...

唔怪得呀仔都未开学，可來压力，但已收到大学emails，講好多mental health 既野，重有多种24小時hotlines, 我心想，係咪咁多mental health 問题呀，讀書啫，又唔係炒燶股票...

twhkleung

beastiebistro 發表於 23-8-28 15:41
ICL因為係齋理科學校（science, technology & medicine）所以同其他大學有少少唔同。起碼大部份學科有lab做 ...

其实都有d细U行这制度，e.g., surrey. 一個professor帶4個学生(但好唔如就好难講)，一個礼拜二次,形識好似補習咁,乜科都可問個prof,不过1st year問题不大，但final yr d course, 末必係佢個areas,  我覺得未必一定帮到個學生。

twhkleung

Radiomama 發表於 23-8-28 13:42
Oops, 老實說，如果一早諗住讀醫科，其實就唔會報美國嘅大學，集中香港、英國就算。
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如果讀E，未來应集中香港同大陸，英美加澳遲早認受性越泥越低。
我中学同学向NY醫院行醫二十年多，後一家返HK，最后都係做唔返醫生，依家晚收美国醫院d jobs, 做consultant, 比d病症意見果边。

ANChan59

beastiebistro 發表於 23-8-29 09:46
我覺得同美國「提告」文化都有少少關係。學校有冇盡所有力去防止自殺？ 賠償分分鍾數以千萬計... ...

我就係這個意思。

beastiebistro

ANChan59 發表於 23-8-29 08:54
十几年前阿仔去史丹福读暑期班，他发现在校园里有很多防止自杀的告示及紧急直线电话，他估计读书压力好大 ...

我覺得同美國「提告」文化都有少少關係。學校有冇盡所有力去防止自殺？ 賠償分分鍾數以千萬計...

losoco

OECD有個報告係咁講；

39% of students who entered a bachelor's programme graduated within the theoretical duration of the programme

所以大學生留班甚至畢唔到業其實好普遍，唔好畀自己太大壓力

barque

覺得美國的大學較多做其他嘢的機會，唔少同學讀書上課之餘，都有機會參與一些paid research assistant 在唔同的項目上。平均每星期10 ～ 20小時左右。而且呢啲項目好多時都係well funded 和有－定規模的。

ANChan59

Radiomama 發表於 23-8-28 08:35
對, 我係講畢業率，eg MIT四年畢到業是89%, 要六年才達95%畢到業；當然還有少部份4-5% drop out。
英美名 ...

十几年前阿仔去史丹福读暑期班，他发现在校园里有很多防止自杀的告示及紧急直线电话，他估计读书压力好大。

中二他也去过ICL 读STEM，就冇乜见到有防止自杀这些宣传及直线电话。

我不是表示史丹福压力比ICL 大，只是观察，可能是文化差异及法律制度差异。

Radiomama

saikungmom 發表於 23-8-28 14:48
人各有志，阿仔想用美國做backup plan，而唔喺英國

證明佢係叻仔，仲要唔計較做多咁多功夫。好嘢！

whoo99

beastiebistro 發表於 23-8-28 15:41
ICL因為係齋理科學校（science, technology & medicine）所以同其他大學有少少唔同。起碼大部份學科有lab做 ...

多謝多謝！我估可能部分Scotland學校也是這樣

beastiebistro

whoo99 發表於 23-8-28 15:09
細想呢種教學方法（師徒制？）其實幾好，特別純文科，就是學生辛苦點。你熟知英國，Imperial情況可否多講 ...

ICL因為係齋理科學校（science, technology & medicine）所以同其他大學有少少唔同。起碼大部份學科有lab做，唔係淨係lecture。

此外，其實ICL基本上同其他大學差不多，都係lecture加lab加功課。然後最後嗰兩個禮拜所有科一次過考期末考。（tutorial system基本上只有oxbridge，maybe同埋Durham行）

whoo99

beastiebistro 發表於 23-8-28 11:25
歷史遺留做法。而且lecture都唔係重點，重點係每個禮拜同tutor嘅超小組討論。有好多事前功夫要做，而且同一 ...

細想呢種教學方法（師徒制？）其實幾好，特別純文科，就是學生辛苦點。你熟知英國，Imperial情況可否多講點，我純粹好有興趣