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英華first in 已經開始， 都冇乜人係度講吓， 點解既？

1617p1

bartsimpson0317 發表於 16-9-27 20:04
個校長好進擊。 選書可浮誇啲

你是在說反話嗎？校長最唔like D人做作、浮誇，選平時睇開喜歡的書最安全。

bartsimpson0317

個校長好進擊。 選書可浮誇啲

ppmmbb

dillon 發表於 16-9-27 13:07
Why assume when there are readily available data? The best indicator of intake quality of any secon ...

中肯。

dillon

KikiDaddy 發表於 16-9-27 07:16
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OK. Let's assume all the boys from 基 全 小 學 下 午 校 were band 2 or band 3,  ...

Why assume when there are readily available data? The best indicator of intake quality of any secondary school is the Pre-S1 scores, and by comparing the scores with DSE results 6 years later gives you a rough estimate of value-addedness. You can find these data easily from YWC’s annual reports.

I have read some analysis on BK placing the DSE results of YWC in B1b. You may want to know that the Pre-S1 scores of the same group of students were probably in the borderline of B1 and B2.

As for the student intake of YWPS when it was a subsidized school, bear in mind that SSP is the poorest district in HK. The average household income in SSP is less than half of that of more affluent districts like Wanchai. It is reasonable to expect SSP students in general have less family resource and support than their counterparts in other districts, which probably will be reflected in student quality. Also, not all the top students from YWPS choose to go to YWC. In the year my older son graduated from YWPS six of his classmates went to SPCC. That was in the subsidized school era. Direct-subsidized students are likely in a better position to go elsewhere.

This thread is meant to be for parents interested in YWPS, and they may want to get some information on YWC due to the through-train arrangements. Let’s focus on discussions that can help these parents prepare their interviews and make decisions, and comments should be based on facts rather than assumptions or personal perceptions.

mcl203

積奇百事 發表於 16-9-27 10:28
另外想請教下, 英華未轉直資前巳經結龍. 如果無理解錯好似要100%直升. 而一般官津校升中係分BANDING 派, 強 ...

好似....你又講左去中學階段吧.....我係回網友入讀小學

若有興趣...可以去睇吓書院SCHOOL REPORT....佢地係pre-s1既報告可以了解多DD升中學生評估~~~

Wilma88

積奇百事 發表於 16-9-27 10:13
書院係咁概情況下, 仲有依家概成績, 巳經算做好好.
唔好成日話人盲撐, 無人盲踏, 用家係唔會無原無故走出O ...

Fact : YWC不是 b1A 。家長本身都不會說YWC係b1A.  但有d有心人一見YW posts , 就要用b1A 學校去評YWC ，甚至用上冇可能 嘅assumption （一間被殺校可以有1/3band 1, 1/3 band）  ，好老土囉。

積奇百事

mcl203 發表於 16-9-27 10:03
點都好...你個論點已經回歸基本一般津校面對問題....我亦唔識去諗SSP如何如何....

另外想請教下, 英華未轉直資前巳經結龍. 如果無理解錯好似要100%直升. 而一般官津校升中係分BANDING 派, 強如LS亦唔係100%直升. 收生方法一樣, 升中方法唔一樣. 點解你會覺得同一般津校面對相同問題呢?

積奇百事

mcl203 發表於 16-9-27 10:03
ppmmbb  YWPS未轉直資前是大抽獎入，當年學生啲成績好參差，小學校務報告都有寫。唔係盲撐。   發表於 3 分 ...

書院係咁概情況下, 仲有依家概成績, 巳經算做好好.
唔好成日話人盲撐, 無人盲踏, 用家係唔會無原無故走出O黎撐概.

mcl203

ppmmbb  YWPS未轉直資前是大抽獎入，當年學生啲成績好參差，小學校務報告都有寫。唔係盲撐。   發表於 3 分鐘前

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點都好...你個論點已經回歸基本一般津校面對問題....我亦唔識去諗SSP如何如何...亦從無否定ywps/ywc係好學校....只係見到d網友盲撑去將書院dse成與敗...推落3級共80個男仔身上...公平嗎??....我都個人係like學校 教好 學生的 ~~~

mcl203

原帖由 KikiDaddy 於 16-09-27 發表
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If I am not mistaken, there were 80 P4 to P6 boys from  基 全 小 學 下 午 校 a ...

認同， 真係見到D網友發表評論無奈，80個男仔，每年27人，書院成200人，就由佢地呢班基全仔100%負起成與敗，9年小至中學生活，就算全B3生，書院全數放棄，0雞旦照升P4-F6, DSE全炒，都係佔書院人數13-14%, 自己quote埋當年新聞，都唔諗吓事實真相，只識盲撐盲quote

ckcleung

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殺校都仲可以教到1/3 BAND 1, 1/3 BAND 2,隨時好過好多唔使殺校既學校啫

PhilC

Wilma88 發表於 16-9-27 06:54
一間收生不足而要被殺的學校真的會有三分一 band 1 生？太樂觀吧。

除了intake，最重要係output。就當一間普遍家長都唔揀，收生不足的學校，小一時照樣收到高，中，低水平各三分一的學生，但學校教得唔好，幫唔倒學生增值，分分鐘嘥埋叻既人。如果間學校真係教到學生小六成績入B1,2,3中學各1/3，我諗都唔會冇人揀，搞到一級平均得返30幾人，同被標籤為新移民學校。

Wilma88

KikiDaddy 發表於 16-9-27 07:16
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OK. Let's assume all the boys from 基 全 小 學 下 午 校 were band 2 or band 3,  ...

All along , there is no question about YWC being a NON band 1A school.  its DSE results wouldn't be as good as the elite schools you named.  I recalled hkpapa once analysed its DSE results which aren't bad for a b1b school ?! Correct me if I m wrong.

ckcleung

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補充多一個原因啦，會有機會變成中中

KikiDaddy

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We all know that subsidized schools cannot fully control the quality of their student intake. It will be very challenging for them to maintain good DSE results if they become a thru train school.
The only elite subsidized school operates in a thru train mode is SMCC. In order to maintain good DSE results, its feeder primary schools are more demanding in academic requirement comparing to other band 1 subsidized schools like Maryknoll.

Those schools should be well aware of such pros and cons of thru train arrangement and make their own decision.

KikiDaddy

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OK. Let's assume all the boys from 基 全 小 學 下 午 校 were band 2 or band 3, there were still just 27 students per school year.
Bear in mind, the remaining 170 S1 intakes from external primary schools should be all band 1 students. This is still better than most of the band 1 subsidized secondary schools with feeder primary schools.

Many people may blame  基 全 小 學 下 午 校 for the mediocre DSE results of YWC in the past few years. Personally, I am not convinced that a small portion of students from  基 全 小 學 下 午 校 will have such a big impact.

ckcleung

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點解Maryknoll, LSC, WYHK, and SJC唔同佢地小學搞一條龍呢？　英華搬校重建小學個決定都係以津校身份搞一條龍的。後來才轉直資的。原因不再重覆了。

其實只有書院同小學校長或教師先知這些數據，我地好難找到答案的。再拗都唔會有結果的，只會變成你問我點解，我又反問你點解。　不如返回小一選校正軌吧。

Wilma88

KikiDaddy 發表於 16-9-27 06:42
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If I am not mistaken, there were 80 P4 to P6 boys from  基 全 小 學 下 午 校 a ...

一間收生不足而要被殺的學校真的會有三分一 band 1 生？太樂觀吧。

KikiDaddy

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If I am not mistaken, there were 80 P4 to P6 boys from  基 全 小 學 下 午 校 accepted by YWC according to the newspaper articles you quoted.
Assuming 1/3 of them were band 1 students and the rest were band 2 and band 3, there were less than 20 band 2 / 3 students going to YWC per school year in that transition period. This is not a large number and it shouldn't have a big impact on their quality of student intake. This number is much less than the number of band 2 students allocated to Maryknoll, LSC, WYHK, and SJC from their respective feeder primary schools.