IB take Maths Studies 對入大學有否影響?

MYGOODNESS

IB take Maths studies 對於想入香港，美國或英國的大學修英文，會否有負面的影響？

poonseelai

原帖由 MYGOODNESS 於 16-04-05 發表
本帖最後由 MYGOODNESS 於 16-4-5 14:38 編輯

亦可問学校 councillor, 又看看孩子師兄師姐情況, 去英國似乎問題不大, 美國收生要求是另一套準則, 不只看成績。

MYGOODNESS

poonseelai 發表於 16-4-5 09:30
樓主可去本地大学information day 或英國大學展向心儀學校問清楚, 我大女也讀math studies, 決定前已問過,  ...

是的，有去學校安排的university fair， 答案係standard嘅。想問多少少其他人實際經驗I我女HL are English, History & Arts 而undergrad 準備take English

slamai

Each case must be considered on its own merits.  However, some general observations are listed for reference:

. MS if really weak in Math
. Math SL if confident in getting a good grade
. MS if applying for undergrad prog not requiring Math while other prerequisite (HL) subjects are tough and their exam dates are close to and/or in consecutive days with Math SL

Don't waste too much time on ACT/SAT2, etc. if the applicant doesn't have a green card.  Unconditional offers may be obtained from tier 2/3 US universities (could even be bundled with full funding/scholarship) for bright IB students without ACT/SAT2 which can be a good complement with other U applications normally giving only conditional offers as the student will have some peace of mind BEFORE his/her exam.

poonseelai

樓主可去本地大学information day 或英國大學展向心儀學校問清楚, 我大女也讀math studies, 決定前已問過, 知道讀math studies局限, 但這科真不是她interest, 現實上用IB 成績考香港和英國大學先看總分, 再看subject choice

nintendo

原帖由 964000 於 16-04-04 發表
You did make the point here. I think the question for the host now is : math SL (poor grade) vs math ...

My point is exactly, moving down to MS may not help much. Some universities simply do not like MS. A 6 in MS may not be better than 4 in M SL. I suggest students apply to HK or UK universities with MS. There r more success stories for MS students in Hk & UK.

nintendo

My point is exactly, moving down to MS may not help much. Some universities simply do not like MS. A 6 in MS may not be better than 4 in M SL.
I suggest students apply to HK or UK universities with MS. There r more success stories for MS students in Hk & UK.

ponnychan

lijacq 發表於 16-4-4 17:59
美國唔出 conditional offer, 佢地主要睇high school 成積，還有一定睇SAT 或 ACT 分數。因為每年大學都要 ...

好多謝你既回應.  咁既情況, 都係先考好IB成績, 把目標定在英國和香港的大學較為合適了.

lijacq

Sorry for kidnapping this thread, maybe you can start another post to understand more about US University Admissions.

lijacq

喺 google 查
”stanford prepscholar SAT”
就可以看到 stanford 收生的平均要求。

lijacq

有一些網站可以 check 到每一間大學收生的要求及平均GPA/SAT/ACT，例如 prepscholar 網站。

lijacq

美國唔出 conditional offer, 佢地主要睇high school 成積，還有一定睇SAT 或 ACT 分數。因為每年大學都要公報已收生的平均GPA 及 SAT/ACT, 這些直接影響大學排名，所以 GPA 及 SAT/ACT 比 IB predicted score 重要。
如果要入美國頂尖大學，SAT / ACT 一定要考及要考得高分。

ponnychan

lijacq 發表於 16-4-4 15:36
My girl in IB grade 11 is indeed very busy with all the classes, EE, TOK, ec, and needs to prepare A ...

唔好意思, 我真係唔識, 咁如果唔考SAT, 單靠IB分數, 係咪對申請美國一流大學既機會有影響?

而且, 我都未搞明白.  有好大疑問, 申請香港或英國既大學, 用既係IB predicted grades, 而香港同英國既大學, 出offer時都係俾conditional offer, 等到成績出左, 達標就可以.  但申請美國既大學, 每年3, 4月就出offer, 而且聽聞係出unconditional offer, 咁美國既大學單靠IB predicted grades就可以決定到收生? 抑或其實美國既大學都唔係全部出unconditional offer, 其實都有部份conditional offer?  

lijacq

My girl in IB grade 11 is indeed very busy with all the classes, EE, TOK, ec, and needs to prepare ACT too.  We indeed have no time to prepare for any subject tests.
For students concentrating on humanities, you have to hand in many essays, do many presentations, etc.
For students concentrating on Science, you have to spend a lot of time on lab reports which are not very straight forward but requires a lot of analysis.
It is indeed a lot of work if you do IB and aiming for US universities which uses ACT and SAT to rank students.
But it is indeed possible to do the subject tests too depending on which subject you are taking.  Many classmates are indeed taking subject tests as some universities require them.

ponnychan

有點題外話想請教各位, 我女一直讀直資, 今年九月將升讀IBDP, 她一向成績好, 我們也計劃讓她到海外升讀大學, 美國是目標之一.  問題是, 聽說報美國一流大學, 最好考SAT, 甚至有人說考SAT還不夠, 還要另外考起碼兩科SAT 2.  這樣一來, 要讀IB已經夠忙了, 還要預備其他考試, 是否會得不償失, 影響最終的IB成績?  

964000

原帖由 nintendo 於 16-04-04 發表
Well. This discussion is getting no where (as usual).
First, my message was not for anyone but the  ...

You did make the point here. I think the question for the host now is : math SL (poor grade) vs math studies (good grade), which one fares better. I think there is no way the host is confident the kid can get a decent grade in math SL.

lijacq

Nintendo, I dont think I disagree with your view point.  It generally comes down to what are your target schools.  We are aiming for small liberal arts school so maybe they are more holistic in admissions approach.  Of course, if u have ability to handle Math SL, dont consider to drop to Math Studies just to boost up points.  
For my daughter, she is a very lopsided abilities since primary but we try to maximize her HLs in English and History.

So, please dont take my comments seriously, it is just my personal opinion.

nintendo

lijacq 發表於 16-4-4 10:10
I think for US universities, they primarily look at GPA and test scores since that is how they are r ...

Well. This discussion is getting no where (as usual).
First, my message was not for anyone but the person who first said that Math Studies is not what Canadian universities like. I only added that US universities also do not like MS.
I am only a parent. I do not know a lot of cases. But it is generally what most admission advisor would honestly tell students: there are lots of cases where students with English B or Math Studies do not get offers from "good" universities in the US, even with good overall grades.
How much help is it with US university by moving down from English A to English B or Math SL to MS is really hard to say.
Similar discussions have been created EK during the past 4 - 5  years regarding English B and MS.
Students can believe in what they want to believe.
If a student has already chosen to take English B or MS, I would definitely not reply to the discussion since that is really discouraging.
However, if a student is only asking for whether he should move from English A to English B, or Math SL to MS, I would definitely say "NO". Unless the student thinks he is going to fail.

Sorry. I cannot be like some other professional tutors/admission advisors that claims to have solid cases where students can get good offers with these subjects. Sorry for not being too encouraging.

nintendo

NoahArk 發表於 16-4-3 23:55
Many? Name one single top US university that "would also not consider students that take Math Studi ...

Good to hear that. In that case, you are the person to provide professional advice to everyone.

lijacq

I think for US universities, they primarily look at GPA and test scores since that is how they are ranked by.  Then they will take a look at the rigor of your course load, so if you take good HL classes suitable for your intended major, then it should be fine.  My daughter is still revising her Math so that she can get a decent score in SAT or ACT.