耀中 vs 法國國際(國際部)

HK-mom

(歡迎中文/英文意見)
Any thoughts on the two schools? We weigh our pros and cons and still in a deadlock. We understand that comparing these two schools is comparing apple and orange, but since our child currently studies at YCIS (3 year old class) and got accepted at FIS Int'l Stream (Reception), it is something to consider (we are a French-Hong Kong family). We are currently only considering these two schools.
We want our child to be fluent in English & Mandarin, while hold basic communicative level in French. Not taking into account costs difference and locations, here's part of the list:
YCIS
- Bilingual teaching (with emphasis in Mandarin in the primary years)
- Through-train school
- Students take both IGCSE & the IB in high school
- Recent average IB exam score is 35 (year 12)
- There is no ranking in the school, to avoid the competitive mentality. Are the parent-teacher meetings sufficient to motivate and help kids achieve desirable results in public exams?
FIS
- English teaching with French and very little Mandarin
- Through-train school
- Students take both IGCSE & the IB in high school
- Recent average IB exam score is 35 (year 12)
- Kids receive minimum Mandarin exposure. Here in HK, can they still achieve a level of fluency in Mandarin (Read and understand the news, write comments about a news topic, for example) via outside, supplementary Mandarin classes, both from FIS (Extracurricular class) and outside help?
I have heard good and not so positive comments about both schools, but they are never compared on the same page. Any constructive thoughts and experience sharing are welcome. Thank you!

gthchau

btw, i stress both english and chinese, both written and oral skills. thanks

gthchau

I got an offer from their ITLP programme. Any one can share with me about the language?

Honestly, i will disappoint if my kids can't speak english properly after studying there...........

or Should i consider accepting if i target for (1) language, (2) character buidling and discipline, and (3) reading habit

thanks a lot ^^

torunpoland

回覆 bomani 的帖子

所以我說恩威並施。

bomani

torunpoland 發表於 15-4-21 06:23
但是, 我知道, 我是父母, 我有權威, 他不能不從  ...

I got your point but I hope your kid is motivated while not forced. Just my 2 cents.

annie40

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I really like your positivity!  

没有顺风顺水的路, 只有不停加油的路!!!

sagesage

agreed

torunpoland

對不起，騎劫了樓主問法國國際學校之位而談中文。我明白讀國際學校小朋友不願學中文，而父母又要他們學箇中的困難與掙扎。但是，容許我在這兒作最後一點的補充，如果父母都採取"算吧啦，佢都係學唔到，學唔識，反正識都冇用，返學用不著"的無奈態度，那麼小朋友一定學不識（天才另計）。態度決定高求。想想吧，已經冇咩外力推動，唔靠父母在後面推，小朋友又點會有動力學？父母在這關口上，是非常重要的。我有朋友是嫁了法國人，她孩子在港讀書，但是，她沒讓孩子學中文，那是她的取態。我亦有朋友的孩子一直讀國際學校，現在已是20多歲的年青人，廣東話英文普通話三語流俐，詩辭滿肚。一切都看父母。加油啊！難，一定的，但不是不行呀！

torunpoland

說的不無道理，所以要靠家長的恩威，父母也要創造中文語境。畢竟這兒是香港，也不是太難。至於程度，就各有要求。

Yanamami

torunpoland 發表於 15-4-21 06:23
我的小朋友才4歲, 未上小學. 但是, 我在家教他中文, 沒有外出上堂, 現在教他認字背詩寫字. 他肯做到幾歲?  ...

但我覚得—番学，多左時间接触非中文語境，同学老師好朋友都唔講中文，大大下就会唔願学，老鼠拉龜禁~~

torunpoland

我的小朋友才4歲, 未上小學. 但是, 我在家教他中文, 沒有外出上堂, 現在教他認字背詩寫字. 他肯做到幾歲? 我不知道. 但是, 我知道, 我是父母, 我有權威, 他不能不從, 況且, 做慣了, 做得開心, 覺得學中文好玩及有用, 自然繼續.

himmamme

torunpoland 發表於 15-4-20 08:55
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你的問題，等Yanamami表妹答你之前，我都可以分享一下。老套一句，勤看勤寫勤背。由 ...

在家輔導？還是在外上中文班？其實在家訓練，给孩子assignment.佢會肯做到幾多歲？

himmamme

Yanamami 發表於 15-4-19 08:20
我唔知佢中文讀寫程度得唔得，得都可能係讀U時修中文｡但广東話从小听講都無问題，PTH亦可能係讀U時加係大 ...

佢在大學主修中文系？在哪裡讀大學？

HK-mom

回覆 Jackieson 的帖子

Thank you, Jackieson, I really appreciate your comments and the informative links, they will certainly be on our pros and cons list.

Thank you again.

HK-mom

回覆 annie40 的帖子

Thanks, Annie40,

Thank you for your heartfelt message, it is very much appreciated. It is true that the decision is a long term one and requires deep thinking, in addition to working between school and family. I shall talk with my husband on our findings from the forum to try to come to a conclusion before the debenture deadline.

Thank you again!

Cara2006

happyhealthymin 發表於 15-4-19 16:51
個別情況吧? YC英文可能係弱, 但其他科都比唔上ESF? 我也聽講有在YC讀得好好,中學考咗去CIS.

係呀，真係好多人考到其他學校就走。
YC 又唔係話冇叻學生，但學生太兩極，成績好的學生可以 IB 40+分，但少，難成氣候，因此較難留住尖子，學習氣氛唔好；考到 CIS 梗係走啦；我識一個，係寧願轉去 ISF 咁新的學校。
其實，很多人當去 YC 係騎牛揾馬，有得一定走就走。
當然，都有人唔走，但各有前因啦。

torunpoland

回覆 himmamme 的帖子

你的問題，等Yanamami表妹答你之前，我都可以分享一下。老套一句，勤看勤寫勤背。由於時間不夠，看與背的部分，集中優質文章詩詞，寫就給孩子一個理由去寫，日記信件......甚麼都可以，因為有入有出才算健康。

Jackieson

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以你地家庭背景，應該FIS比較適合。

FIS用簡體字教中文，有華人及西人老師(教PTH)都有，聽同講都好好，但寫同睇真係另一回事。

FIS的校舍細&舊，設施都比下去，但學校即極擴建，在中學部將會興建新冀，設施將會改善。

相信你都做咗唔少資料搜集，IGCSE及升大學方面在FIS學校網站可以揾到，你提到學術，以下可以參考:
http://www.fis.edu.hk/documents/IGCSE-2012.pdf
http://www.fis.edu.hk/documents/IGCSE-2013.pdf

除了以上，正如Annie講，仲有其他方面要考慮。FIS校風文化比較開放自由，少香港人讀，英語語景唔需要擔心，學生之間全英語溝通。

happyhealthymin

原帖由 Cara2006 於 15-04-19 發表
如果重點 set 在中文，YC 一定強好多，YC 99% 是華人，當中以普通話為母語和以廣東話為母語的都有。
但 YC  ...

個別情況吧? YC英文可能係弱, 但其他科都比唔上ESF? 我也聽講有在YC讀得好好,中學考咗去CIS.

annie40

其實很想提醒家長，全部香港的IS小學部的教和學是差不同，並無高低之分，老師來去是那班人，孩子的最終素質決定於家教，而非學教。