香港的國際中學 升讀 香港的大學

lawrainbow

請問在香港的國際中學畢業,升讀香港的大學，是否計在海外學生的名額內？

mrcamel

When I attended HKU 10 plus years ago, I got the impression from the vice-chancellor that they wanted to turn HKU into a more "internationalized" community - in that sense I would think they would welcome non-Jupas students (I was one myself). Not sure if this is still the trend. However I do agree that over-planning in education (subject to interpretation!) may actually stifle the child's development - I would imagine the difficulty of switching from IS system back to local system - and I have seen failed examples (yet to see a successful one) - if the child failed to cope or simply couldn't do well in the local system, it actually would reduce the likelihood of the child getting into a local uni (or getting into a program of his/her choice in that local uni).

foolish.mom

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40% non-Jupas should be an extreme case of a faculty in a certain uni (May be Global business). There is no written or publicized cap for local non-Jupas. However, any faculty might have some percentage in mind when they make admission decision for non-Jupas. It also depends on the quality of the applicants.
Top students in top local schools usually don't target on HK uni alone (except medicine). Most will also apply to top uni overseas, & IB should give those students a little advantage over DSE. IS students also have a bit of advantage during interviews (due to their spoken English & confidence).

Radiomama

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40% Non Jupas?? 我有些doubt 囉!

但未來日子，入本地大學怎會比從前困難呢? 出生人口才5萬，大學學位卻多過以前。

不過話得說回來，唸國際學校而又target本地大學的，由20-40%不等，所以一心打算考本地大學的學生，自己努力就是，不用擔心別人不給予機會。

家長自己要調整心態，選擇適合的教育，對孩子要有信心; 太多計算，只會扭曲教育的原意。

oooray

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呢個算盤唔易打響。香港人咁精；冇人咁做就證明弊多於利。
你要試；fine and good luck但請準備好plan B(讀埋 IS Secondary)穩陣d。

poonseelai

原帖由 GGD 於 15-04-10 發表
I am a bit confused. as far as i can remember, the paper i read talks about the low percentage of no ...

我理解local non jupas是無政府規定限額，各大院校自己設限，之前聽過港大法律系介紹，它有slight preference for IB students, 雖然學校都想選才，但有好多其他因素影響。

GGD

I am a bit confused. as far as i can remember, the paper i read talks about the low percentage of non Jupas (not non local) students getting to local uni. yes, govt imposes no cap. but its the cap imposed by local uni.

back in my old days (more than ten yrs ago) at least 40% of students are non Jupas (mature students are non jupas, right?). and i read the news saying some of the top local schools would ask the top students to switch to IB at the last few yrs of secondary life. thou they are top students anyway, but if the success rate to local uni is so low, isn't it a bit risky to switch to non jupas (unless they will go overseas anyway).

so, is there any cap for local non jupas students? many thanks

foolish.mom

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My understanding is that "local student" means the student does not require a student visa to study in the universities in HK, or we can say that the student has the 'right of abode in HK". Thus, HK residents studying in IS and go to HK universities are classified as "local, non-JUPAS". The government has not capped the percentage of these students who apply to HK uni. Those without a right of abode and need a student visa are classified as non-local students, and subject to the 20% cap.
I think local non-JUPAS students are getting harder to get into local uni because of the comments from the society and LEGCO members. It is obvious in the case of HKU medicine. However, I heard that individual faculties still like to recruit non-JUPAS students, especially Faculty of Business, or Econ.

964000

Non jupas在將來入local u 有機會愈來愈難

raymonds

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The fact is being the opposite. For the past at lease 10 years, students (who used to attend local school) are trying to go overseas (or to IS, if financially not able to go overseas) in their last 2-3 years of secondary school life, for taking the UK A-levels (or IB), and then use their non-local exam result to apply back to HK's universities via non-Jupas. That  WAS proofed quite effective in the past. That is why public and Legco started pressing government (and  universities) to control the percentage of intake of non-Jupas students.

964000

原帖由 lawrainbow 於 15-04-09 發表
我想幼稚園and小學讀國際，英語會良好，然後中學讀本地，就容易升讀本地大學



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但中文吾夠好，DSE如中文肥了，是沒有本地大學收的

torunpoland

完成國際學校的幼稚園、小學，再入本地中學，我記得有網友的仔女都係咁。不過，老實，靠國際學校的中文教育，可唔可以入返本地中學再過埋DSE，我就頗有保留。還有，慣唔慣都係問題（雖然可以克服）⋯⋯可是最要命還是那種機械式操練、拚命功課、無止境呈分默書測考，對閱讀玩樂時間的剝削，進而影響孩子各方面的成長。

lawrainbow

我想幼稚園and小學讀國際，英語會良好，然後中學讀本地，就容易升讀本地大學

nintendo

ponnychan 發表於 15-4-9 12:10
All students studying in a secondary school (local school or international school) in Hong Kong are  ...

Jupas vs non-jupas, and local vs non-local are 2 different issues.

More, there is no such thing as "student visa" for secondary students. So not sure what you meant by "大陸人黎香港讀IS, 沒有HKID". Legally, the so called children from china, they have the same status as blonde expat children.

nintendo

lawrainbow 發表於 15-4-9 08:45
聯招和非聯招的收生比例是一樣嗎？

There are no fixed for  % for non-jupas.

Note that:

(1) The government only look at the funds given to universities. And thus they only fix the actual seat numbers of "local students", i.e. the "subsidised students". However, within "local students" universities should be free to allocate jupas vs non-jupas.

(2) The number of seats might actually be increasing because different universities are actually introducing more and more new programs.

But, because of complaints from the public, universities are trying to limit the % for non-jupas for certain programs. I think that would mainly be the most popular "elite" programs like medicine, laws and qfin.

ponnychan

nintendo 發表於 15-4-8 23:57
All students studying in a secondary school (local school or international school) in Hong Kong are ...

All students studying in a secondary school (local school or international school) in Hong Kong are considered "local student".

我想搞清楚你既意思, 我一直以為要有HKID才算是local student, 但似你咁講, 外國人仔女拿外國護照沒有HKID在香港讀IS的, 申請也算入non-jupas?  又, 大陸人黎香港讀IS, 沒有HKID, 都算入non-jupas?

poonseelai

原帖由 GGD 於 15-04-09 發表
i like the way of teaching of IS and i want my kid to have good english, world vision. So i will sen ...

About 20+ % of ESF students study in local universities and of course their academic results are very good in order to get places in the local universities.

GGD

i like the way of teaching of IS and i want my kid to have good english, world vision. So i will send my kid to IS.

For uni, it will be many years later. we don't know whether our kid will stay in hk or study aboard. but i always think its better for us to have a choice. but it seems that once u study in IS, your chance to study in local uni is very low.

another point is, some subjects, law and medicine, its better to study in hk.

lawrainbow

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