SIS vs CIS,兩間學校分别大嗎？

jilin1960

SIS vs CIS,兩間學校分别大嗎？如果兩間都收？怎樣選？

112200

Oh,  really! it's a common arrangement or special arrangement by request? Do u know?

foolish.mom

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In CIS, students can write essay or answer questions in simplified Chinese. The teaching materials are all in traditional Chinese, though.

112200

Hi yemarose,   I always have a questionnin mind , I think you can helpme . Sis teaches in simplified Chinese But CIS teaches in traditional Chinese.  do you know How CIS looks at this gap when considering student transfer from a simplified Chinese background ?

foolish.mom

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Yes, your points are very valid.
The most difficult area should be how to teach TOK, and give advice.  Besides, marking scheme in IB is really quite different from other traditional syllabus. Experienced IB teachers know whether a particular Extended Essay can get a high mark, Marks of internal assessment will not deviate much after external moderation.

If your boy considers overseas universities, an experienced university counselling team will help a lot during the application process.

yemarose

Thanks for the valuable advise.
請教：SIS 的IB課程年歷不多, 這是否也需考慮在內？
而CIS的老師富有對IB的要求的經驗, 這定能有助學生的成績, 這說法是對嗎？

foolish.mom

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The CIS Hangzhou for year 10 students has 2 main objectives:
1. provide boarding school experience, especially after school and weekend activities for a full year. The administration said it is a life changing experience for teenagers
2. Chinese language immersion

I personally don't quite agree with the Hangzhou initiative. But it is compulsory for newly admitted students.

Regarding Chinese, the atmosphere of CIS (mainly student themselves) doesn't support the "pursue of excellence" in Chinese.  Some students have excellent Chinese throughout the school years. But as I see they all like reading Chinese books. So your boy needs to have some driving force, either from an inspiring teacher, or from himself to excel, to push himself to read Chinese books.

If your boy is admitted to year 8, he must be academically talented. So he should be able to perform at the top levels regardless of which school he is in. As kids need time to adjust themselves when changing schools, you should think twice before making any decision.

If your main concern is whether he can achieve top grades in DP exam, you may analyse the IB DP grades of each subject obtained by SIS students, in order to predict your son's grades. How is the study atmosphere at senior years of SIS? At CIS, the academic pressure is high, and the pressure is mainly created by peer students. Anxiety is not uncommon.

If the boy's target is to study medicine in HK, achieving top DP grade is the prime objective. However, if you target US top universities, a shining and broad based activity resume is a must. CIS may be more appropriate, as the school encourages and supports students to take part in many activities, many of which build leadership skills.

yemarose

謝謝各位的資訊, 很有用呢!
小兒現就讀sis, p6; 剛收到cis, grade 8 的 接訥信, 現在正為他煩惱應否在明年轉校?
他是一個理科小子，英文寫作亦不錯, 只是對中文提不起興趣來。怎樣好呢？
cis 在grade 10時要到杭洲campus上學,這是否為考IB chi lang A 打好基礎呢?

sammypsng

原帖由 shadeslayer 於 15-02-21 發表
The best way to get in local medical schools is actually via the local route. Or so it seems.

本地大學醫科畢業，只能在香港執業，你對香港的將來有信心嗎？現在醫學院是6年加1年實習，投資(以時間及金錢計)不小。

shadeslayer

原帖由 jilin1960 於 15-02-20 發表
一，孩子不喜學中文，不看任何中文晝，過不了dse中文關。二，孩子適合ib的教學方式，有獨立思考能力，数理 ...

The best way to get in local medical schools is actually via the local route. Or so it seems.

jilin1960

964000 發表於 15-2-晝 19:23
Actuall適，IBif yoa 獨ocal school medi份,ouldn't it be better to study in local elite school?

一，孩子不喜學中文，不看任何中文晝，過不了dse中文關。二，孩子適合ib的教學方式，有獨立思考能力，数理及英文寫作有天份。三，希望他有愉快的童年。

Woojba

願聞其詳

964000

Actually, if you aim local school medic, wouldn't it be better to study in local elite school?

foolish.mom

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If the child aims at studying medicine, the following points should be considered:
1. How to achieve a perfect or nearly perfect score at IB

The requirement for HK medical schools is IB 44-45, CU IB 43? It means the student needs to aim at grade 7 for all 6 subjects, plus 3 bonus points. We Chinese are usually strong at Math and Science. It isn't that hard to get grade 7 in Math and Science for a smart Chinese kid. But it may be difficult to get grade 7 in the 2 languages + humanities. My son (in CIS) is a Math & Science guy. Even without outside tutoring, he predicts that it is not really difficult to get grade 7 in Math and Science HL. However, over the years, CIS teachers and ways of teaching helped him to improve his English and humanities, and TOK too. Math and Sciences are easy to study (even by himself), but good English, essay writing skills, critical thinking and reasoning require the nurture of years at school.

2. Reputation of school (especially during university admission selection and interview)

When my son attended interview at HKU, and alumni interview of top US universities, the interviewers all mentioned "Oh, you are at CIS". He saw certain advantage being at this school.

3. Competitiveness of classmates

The reputation of CIS attracts many of the most competitive students to study there. Yes, shoe shining is a common phenomenon, especially in senior years. Shoe shining in the ways to catch attention of teachers in classes, in order to get a good predicted grade. Students have to be very involved in classes, asking sensible questions, provide insightful feedback instantly.
My son wasn't nervous when attending university interviews. He said, during TOK, language and humanities lessons, he often had to debate with teachers and classmates, and many of those classmates are in debate team, world scholar team. He felt he couldn't have been challenged more in the interviews than in those classes.

CIS is not a perfect school. Like many other schools, it has many flaws. However, if I were that boy, I would choose CIS.

Jane1983

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陳茂波单野，佢未比人告之前，報紙有報導，班里面好幾個學生和家長投訴過果对twins…不過后来陳做了官，焦点吾同左。

HIHinsurance

fatcni 發表於 15-2-20 12:10
Very useful info! Thx sharing!
Btw, why you all know so much info? Where is it come from?!

我可以直入學校核心問佢地一些問題






一般人做不到

不過, 我俾你問到, 都無用

因為最後,落考場較量, 勝負

你父母正常讀1間學校, 與世隔絕

永世覺得自己仔女那間國際學校

只能從學校網站睇到資料

學校報喜不報憂, 同政府一樣

但子女讀緊書, 心情複雜

學校有時老師出了問題, 突然徬徨

我舉例, 你做緊IB 功課

計IB 分, 你發現, 同學俾好多錢搵人做

做得靚靚地, 高分

你又發現, 份EE , 同學問師兄借來抄

左改右改, 同學高分

自己低分, 根本不可能高分

你又發覺, 某些同學, 在擦老師鞋

擦出個預測7分來

你的心情, 憤怒及複雜

終回到社會現實

陳茂波單案, 你估真係咁簡單

波叔輸官司, 人地無辜

眼看未為真, 只能感受及思考'

知道什麼, 我講什麼

shadeslayer

如果家長唔 buy 西方自由教育，崇尚亞洲式學術致上，為乜唔讀本地？除非無資格讀本地。

HIHinsurance

foolish.mom 發表於 15-2-20 12:02
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It is fair to say that the math and science in CIS are relatively weaker. But ...

http://www.cis.edu.hk/data/files/gallery/ContentGallery/1_2014_MAY_IBDP_Grade_distribution__Gradedistribution.pdf







算多人讀lang a 中文

成級 cdnis , 都係得3-4個人讀中文lang A

後尾2年, 我見CIS 追分數,追得很平

數理差的人, 多數轉左做STUDIES, 或轉科

其實去到, IB 最後CIS 與SIS 計數能力, 差不多

早期的落後, 已大幅收窄

所以我覺得SIS, CIS 都無須轉校


要轉就轉考試制度, 不是轉校'

CIS 功課古怪

老師要你跟佢方法

但老師方法, 是鬼佬形式做野

都係怪MYP 無統一好多野

諗野較慢, 細密, 做得慢

去到DP , 老師就放手, 俾學生自由的空間

fatcni

Very useful info! Thx sharing!
Btw, why you all know so much info? Where is it come from?!

foolish.mom

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It is fair to say that the math and science in CIS are relatively weaker. But languages (especially English), humanities (especially History) are very strong.
2014 cohort has weaker IB results because of 2 reasons (my own opinion):
1. 2014 is a relatively weak cohort (let's wait and see the result of 2015)
2. In CIS, 50% of students aim at US universities. They will stop studying after Nov when the last transcript result is out. Close to 50% of students will not study hard for the actual IB exam. This trend will continue in CIS. I think in other IB schools, more students will aim at HK and UK universities, which give conditional offers and thus dependent on actual IB results.