一間沒有教育理想的屯門中學，宣道中學

ANChan59

tcmsung 發表於 14-7-29 10:55
回覆 joyjoyparent 的帖子

Yet, the covenants in themselves cannot be applied in HK (correct me if I  ...

唔好陪佢顛 ...... 等個帖沉啦。

下次唔好整 d 咁既 link，我以為真係眾人皆醉，佢獨醒！睇完先知隨口up！

joyjoyparent

回覆 TuenMunResident 的帖子

The United Nations is an organization of sovereign states. HK can never be a signatory of any of the treaties.
It is true that RELEVANT provisions of such international covenants should be applied to HK, according to Basic Law passed by PRC, a sovereign state. Yet, the covenants in themselves cannot be applied in HK (correct me if I am wrong), unless they are 'localized' by the local legislature. At present, though China is a signatory to some of these human right covenants, she hasn't 'localized' many of them, and thus, the mainland Chinese people cannot use it to challenge the Chinese government in court.

So, for the sake of argument, if taking the exam were a right, the students and their parents should take the school to court (in judicial review) and seek compensation from the school. This will set things straight and shut us all up.

Jackieson

tcmsung 發表於 14-7-27 23:03
http://www.info.gov.hk/archive/consult/2003/iccpr-c.pdf

勁!

相信呢個帖應該可以 close file!

joyjoyparent

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For me, the answer is YES. Just like a contract: you were told the terms right at the start, you can reject the offer and go; OR contest the legality of the terms in court (or something like civil disobedience). But NEVER ignore the terms, and at the end yelled that the other party is 'unreasonable'!

Just like JUPAS. It will give the DSE stuents ONE OFFER on 8th August, and if you don't reply by 17:00, 9th August, your university place will be given to someone else.
You MAY protest that's unfair to those able students (with very good DSE results) that FAILED to meet the tight deadline. But this IS the deal JUPAS offer. If you were gutsy enough, you might challeng it, or reject to play by its rule and go overseas!!!!

You may say that's unreasonable. I'd say, that is life!

zngo

我覺得跟本唔係針對事件，應該係衝住校長的私人恩怨，建議我們不要再回應此貼，有佢沉底好了！

ChiChiPaPa

為何說考試是權利？有何根據？

PCCW2319

原帖由 TuenMunResident 於 14-07-27 發表
對自己的應有權利被褫奪，而仍然覺得很合利，令我想起中國已沒有皇帝百多年了，但人民奴性仍未改，究竟中國 ...

咁如果明知校規係某，學生/家長都有權利轉校，點解要死守係1間自己認為唔合理既學校呢？ 有權利，亦要有責任。有某d工作，工作時間寫明係12小時。你自己接受左呢個條件，至接受呢間公司聘請。而唔係返左工，至走出黎講工作時間太長，唔人道，搞抗議。

Yanamami

都放曬榜，仲討論緊間學校？或者曠課留家溫書的同學8/8會有好消息？以前的“不愉快”經歷都可以忘記了罷~~

ChiChiPaPa

對多次曠課或多次不守校規的學生，學校不安排考試，或不作考試評分，我覺得很合理。

PCCW2319

原帖由 TuenMunResident 於 14-07-27 發表
我已重覆多次了，一早寫了在手册的校規，並不代表就合理，有教育意義。希望不要再有人提出類似的問題。

我覺得得呢個校規完全無問題。可以執行。