名校是苦口良藥，還是毒品明知唔好又繼續？

Wklau1

楊佩昌指出德國在憲法寫明禁止學前教育，幼稚園不准學習專業知識，只教基本的道德倫理，小學不可學習額外的課程。匈牙利也有類似的立法規定，嚴禁教授幼稚園生學習寫作、閱讀和數學等等。德國教育家的理念是幼兒要接受教育，重點在三方面：包括基本的社會常識，例如不許暴力；其次是教導孩子主動做有興趣的手作，還有是培育孩子的情商，例如是領導能力，這些培育不存在硬生生的知識灌輸、沒有功課，也沒有考試，與今天香港和內地的填鴨教育有很大的差別。

dy0905

原帖由 puikit2012 於 14-01-28 發表
認同！

Agree x 2

小寶貝兒

其實我有同老公傾過呢篇文章, 我地都認同幼稚園其實應該以玩, 學習群體生活為主, 但當中以德國立法幼兒教育同諾貝爾獎數量既關係去證明此教育理論係成本既, 我地就唔多認同啦!
因為最早既論文, 多數以德文寫成, 即係德國人有先天優勢去學習最新既智識, 起點高, 得到高成就機會就更大, 此其一!
第二, 如果真係要說明德國幼兒教育立法同得到咁多諾貝爾獎有直接關係, 咁應該比埋立法前後既諾貝爾獎得獎數目, 哦, 仲要係立法最少20年以後既諾貝爾獎數據先能夠推斷到此兩者之間是否有關聯!

puikit2012

原帖由 kilalala 於 14-01-28 發表
回覆 Jane1983 的帖子

May, or may not be 100% relevant.

認同！

kilalala

回覆 Jane1983 的帖子

May, or may not be 100% relevant.
But the environment will shape the character of the kids. This is for sure. What I said is a general statement of what I observe over the years.

I have also seen graduates from famous school that is more 公子哥兒 feel! haha. They may not come from rich family, they just have that 格!
It's very interesting how the style of the school shapes the character or 氣質 of the children.
So I won't go to a school if I don't like the 格!

cherry.wangkb

同意！我是在國內讀書的，小學真是沒壓力，就是玩！但到了中學，真的好努力！
雖然現在的小學比以前壓力大了，但比香港還是差得遠。正規幼稚園也是按國家規定，不可教小學的東西。我女兒5歲前在國內讀幼稚園，還沒開始學寫中文字，只是用毛筆寫一到十。讀完中班，就來到香港，原打算上高班，但因為她是十月出生，親戚朋友說香港課程深，最好是從低班開始讀。結果就聽了朋友的話，現在看來是非常正確的做法。k2已經有很多東西學，現在k3學的東西比國內小一還要深！我試過和國內朋友小一的孩子比較。跟以前的幼稚園的同學相比更遠了。她們現在是大班，還沒開始學寫字。

Warning

我一直在想, 其實父母想要自己的子女將來成為什麼特質的人, 才去選擇一所教學理念與自己接近的學校.  

名校要出精英, 學生要在各項校制比賽勝出保校譽, 校學手法, 課程編排, 學習氣氛當然要作出配合, 培養出戰鬥型學生, 把被動的學生訓練成進取, 把天生主動進取型的學生變得更進取, 那些不成材學生被淘汰 (所謂不成材學生的強項可能在其它方面).

Happy School 當然happy行先, 在遊戲快樂中學習成長, 學生無壓力, 家長亦輕鬆, 推行小孩創造力.

語言環境型, 兩文三語為基本, 每天浸泡在英普粵語中學習, 學術方面不會催谷, 因為不是課程重點.

學術型, 課程編排以學術為先, 注重認字, 抄寫, 數學, 較多功課, 練習, 學習評估等, 例如K3 已加入小一課程, 將來入讀小學較易適應.

各類學校也有長處短處, 沒有最好的學校, 只有最接近家長期望及配合小孩本質的學校.

希望各位家長給予意見.

trees999

Agreed!

Jane1983

回覆 kilalala 的帖子

我明你講邊種人，但其實吾關邊間學校事。
見到叻過你強過你的同學，有人會被激勵，見賢思齊；有人會吾抵得、甚至聯群結黨杯葛人...係睇你點教養佢。

kilalala

Jane1983 發表於 13-12-27 13:20
回覆 kwan_0128 的帖子

“愉快三年，以後痛苦”，系坊間一種看法，但并非必然。 ...

I agree. Although my kid is still very young, and everybody warns me that YOU WILL REGRET WHEN YOU GO TO PRIMARY SCHOOL.
I told myself, let me regret then. I will protect my kid the best I could. The longer he can enjoy a happy childhood, the better foundation I have built for him.
I won't apply for "名校". They stress out kids. They don't care for kids. They treat kids as a tool to help them earn a better grade for the next year so the principal can be "PROUD". That's bull shxt.

I know a lot of graduates from 名校..... very very famous school - they all have problems in their character - very self centered. Super selfish and competitive. They even compete with friends - and eventually ruin friendships. Or sometimes, even for very good friends, they never share with you their worries or problems. They will only tell you happy things or achievements. Of course,  they are all high achievers! BUT, they are generally not happy people and I can see why - they were brought up in an environment that is so competitive that they have learned since very young that they need to protect themselves. They compete on everything. They want to be the best, even among friends.  

On the other hands, I have friends who graduated from less famous school - they are caring, they are true friends. They support each other and are genuinely happy for each other's achievement, not jealous, not envy.

A school not only teaches you academics! It also foster an environment for you to grow and shape your character.

So choose carefully for your children!

victoryu19

^GGmami^ 發表於 14-1-4 22:38
講得好！當99.9%嘅人做緊同一件事時，乜我地仲可以自命清高咩？除非李+×係我老爺啦，唔係我局住跟大隊:not ...

It is not really 清高 or not but a different theory / approach towards education I guess.

EMS

我大果個小朋友讀緊小學，就算星期日唔學興趣班，儘量一有時間去郊外，去農場玩，但一到測驗，考試月，咪又係只好乖乖咁幾個星期留喺屋企溫書，求分數。當幼稚園讀書時，我仲以為我可以唔隨波逐流，星期六日唔溫書，只係玩。笑人哋為乜要小學生咁辛苦!到自己果個入咗小學，小一都還可以，慢慢讀上去，你會發覺喺香港讀官津或傳統私小，最後都係要行呢條路……同一個外國人傾過計，佢哋考試唔及格都可以升班直至畢業，香港跟本做唔到。香港某私小，上年小一留班十幾人，而家讀書就算你唔谷考頭幾名，你都要陪跑，最基本都唔好留班，私小留班條數都幾甘，唔計錢，小朋友都無咗自信又係慘……都係果句，我都好想讀到愉快學習有中學嘅一條龍呢！

victoryu19

lulu0307 發表於 14-1-5 12:01
我們現這世代的家長有得揀咩？

Surely we have choices.
Going to university is not the only way of making a good living.  In fact, most of the people who make good livings because of their creativity, not because of 'memorizing lots of stuff as a kid' or having a university degree.

lulu0307

我們現這世代的家長有得揀咩？

hosinai2012

德國是免費教育, 連大學也一樣, 而且入大學比例肯定高過香港, 香港地要爭入大學, 無奈只有從小開始玩這個遊戲, 如果我有錢我會移民, 等個仔唔駛局住做填鴨

全世界有邊度要學咩兩文三語架, 人地大陸都係到小學先教英文, 我都好想唔駛谷個仔, 但連happy的小學都要考學術, 咁要爭到入去讀係咪要谷呢, 唯有揀一間谷得黎佢讀得開心既學校

kenwong888

^GGmami^ 發表於 14-1-4 22:38
講得好！當99.9%嘅人做緊同一件事時，乜我地仲可以自命清高咩？除非李+×係我老爺啦，唔係我局住跟大隊:not ...

Exactly true!

^GGmami^

原帖由 EMS 於 13-12-29 發表
鬼唔知阿媽係女人，我哋喺香港，無錢讀國際學校，又考唔到愉快學習嘅私/直小學，你教我哋可以點呀？



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講得好！當99.9%嘅人做緊同一件事時，乜我地仲可以自命清高咩？除非李+×係我老爺啦，唔係我局住跟大隊

Angelafyfy

原帖由 Wklau1 於 13-12-26 發表
楊佩昌指出德國在憲法寫明禁止學前教育，幼稚園不准學習專業知識，只教基本的道德倫理，小學不可學習額外的 ...

其實孔子個套，一早講左，先教思想，禮儀，有時間才學知識。

不過，教育係大商品，家長已被蒙蔽

Bbsbaba

因材施教,當然大家有自己的選擇權利,香港的教育制度是有問題存在,但希望父母們明白每個小童發展進度不盡相同,各有所長,硬要小孩在同組中每一項也做到出類拔萃、名列前矛,倒不如發掘小孩的長處加以培養,就算是成人也不能做到十項全能。當然我們不能靠個人力量改變政府的填鴨式制度,不管是政治因素或官員無知,若父母自己也放棄,有誰可幫助自己的小孩呢