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新聞透視 --- 學位有多荒

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http://mytv.tvb.com/news/newsmagazine/165986#page-1

近年不少外國商會投訴本港國際學校學額不足，削弱競爭力，來港經商或工作的外籍人士，難以為子女尋找學位而卻步。政府近幾年亦做出回應，批出多幅土地及分配空置校舍，予國際學校辦學團體擴展或開新學校。過去五個學年，合共增加了3600個國際學校學額，學位多了但仍不足以應付需求，教育局早前委託顧問做的研究顯示，到2016/17學年，本港將欠缺四千多個國際學校小學學額。

目前，就讀於國際學校的，除了外來工作、經商的外國人和本地外籍人士子女外，亦有不少本地家庭的子女，過去十年，人數更有上升趨勢，到底是什麼原因？他們是否令國際學校學位更緊張？又應否嚴格限制國際學校招收本地學生的比例？對於辦學團體而言，是否有更大誘因招收本地學生？

此外，現時全港國際學校加起來，有四千多個餘額，即有約一成學位沒人就讀，但一邊廂，不少國際學校則大排長龍，出現錯配的原因是什麼？是否通過政府不斷批地，就能解決問題？要建多少國際學校才足以應付需求？鄰近國家的做法又如何，是否有值得參考之處？


記者：宋紫晧
2013.12.12

shadeslayer

原帖由 ckwliu 於 13-12-21 發表
Try the Hobbits.

Watched that. Thanks.

I was looking at Frozen.

shadeslayer

I was just trying to find a movie to watch. I guess another sign of declining English in HK is that I thought there were more English version of Hollywood movies in the past. Now all but very few cinema show Cantonese dubbed version.

FattyDaddy

Jules_S 發表於 13-12-21 10:24
Here in HK, u have great variety of choice ...

I'm not surprised to hear contrary views, I have a friend who had lived in UK for many years and his daughter was born there. He came back to HK some years ago and decided that a HK style education is better for his daughter because he felt his daughter "was not learning anything" in the UK.

I always believe each family's situation and preferences are different and strictly speaking there are no right or wrong choices, however the choices we make for our children today do have an effect on how well they will fit into certain societies in future, so one should consider which part of the world they will most likely be living in when making choices for them.

Jules_S

We lived in Europe for many years, and we move to Hk recently. I have visited two local schools these months, going to their class observation, talking to the principal and attending school events. Both school are not the most popular ones in Hk, maybe tier 2/3 kind of school. That's why these schools welcome prospective parents visiting. I must say I am quite impressed by the schools: down to earth, not only focus on academic, balance of life, open-minded, care for the interest of their students, instead of only the school name.

Comparing Europe, where most people go to the nearest school they live. School difference is not that big. Here in HK, u have great variety of choice. U just need to spend some more time to find the right one. So far I found that the local aided schools are really not bad.

Jules_S

What about this kind of local school?

The School-based Internationalized Curriculum (I.C.)

www.cms.edu.hk

Will that be an option?

English instruction
learning Chinese via mandarin
multi- culture environment
Local school = free

shadeslayer

While I agree with most of what you guys said here, I am a bit more optimistic on local education. The local system focuses on gaining knowledge and is good at producing professionals. It is just that the journey to acquiring knowledge is quite tough.

shadeslayer

原帖由 ikerberg 於 13-12-20 發表
本帖最後由 ikerberg 於 13-12-20 16:10 編輯

The main concern for the educators nowadays shall be h ...

It does not matter what time are we in, we still need professionals like doctors and lawyers. And for them hard cold facts are still important.

shadeslayer

原帖由 ikerberg 於 13-12-20 發表
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I saw a year 8 history homework not long ago regarding "why do I think the reform of the Roman Empire was not necessary" or something to that effect.  Without  reading further, I thought to myself, wow, that is deep.

Ruby1219

I totally agree with you

ikerberg

The main concern for the educators nowadays shall be how to equip the kids with the skills, manner and mentality of being a future global citizen (or a global leader if you aim higher), but not feeding them with hard/cold facts [knowledge] which one could easily find by just checking the key words with wikipedia / google....

that is, the core competencies that have to be developed through education:

(1) language skills (at least English & Putonghua close to native levels)
(2) public speaking /presentation skills
(3) skills to work as a team member/leader
(4) creativity / critical thinking
(5) integrity / empathy / awareness & understanding & respect of cultural differences
...etc...

The above are just my personal views that I wish to share in the fruitful discussion of this thread.  

Surely, different ppl have different views...

Ruby1219

I agree with you.  
similarly,  I have experience teaching the local university students and found their English even lower than the primary school kids in IS.  
on the contrary, when I saw the presentation from the year 3 (8 years old) students at my son's IS,  I was so impressed!  by their confidence and courtesy, not only their native fluent English.

ikerberg

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I never meant all IS students' English is better than all local students'.... Given the total no. of local students >> IS students, it is no wonder some elites from local schools are better than some IS's.

Surely, I won't doubt the English standard of those from the elite schools -- such as Co-ed, DB, DG etc....

But, just for your information/interest, because of my work, in recent years, I had chances to interview with some elite fresh graduates from the local universities...and I must point out that the general standard of spoken English as I observed was far from desirable.

Even though I had no doubt that they were smart and they could express themselves very well in Cantonese, when they switched to the English channel, they could not express their ideas clearly owing to their limited vocab base.  They had difficulty in picking up the right words to say what they really had wished to mean.   The fluency was also far from satisfactory, generally speaking.

What made myself so attracted/addicted to my chosen IS was a few years ago, when I went to the OpenHouse of that IS, I was stopped by a boy requesting me to listen to his presentation [great courage/confidence, boy!].  He used powerpoint prepared by himself to present a topic ==> "Overfishing" [<--- kind of topic you would read in magazines like "Time" / "The Economist".]   In the presentation, his confidence and his English fluency so displayed, I can say, was better than many many HKU graduates.   

Finally, I asked the boy == "How old are you?"  and he replied "Eleven".

nintendo

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世上幾奇的事都有，佢都係申請了四次，佢話唔憤氣，冇理由考唔到，因為唔係名牌熱門學校，考唔到學校咁瘀，冇理由講大話卦，我覺得佢地黑仔 d 啦，小朋友未至於好差

Ruby1219

but the English of some top local schools is excellent and even better than that of IS students!  especially in writing,  grammar and comprehension.  but I personally like the learning approach and attitude of IS more.

oooray

nintendo 發表於 13-12-20 12:29
過多兩年，等 esf  停 subvention (for new student)，肯定申請 esf 人數會少好多。其實，印像中，我又唔覺 ...

你鄰居係咪係waiting list等緊就當"考唔到"?一般人考過一兩次唔得會放棄；或考第間；同一間考完又考又有點奇怪......