St. Catherine Teachers Standard

vivian-chy

小兒剛剛在St. Catherine開學, 就讀K1, 聽說這是一間幾全面的學校, 尤其著重語言發展. 但開課兩天, 發覺班上的英文老師的英文水平實在太差, 她聲稱自己是外國回流, 但英語卻完全是local accent, grammar亦不正確, 還夾雜很多廣東話助語詞, "嗱, 嘅.." 等等. 究竟是我bad luck, 還是這間學校的師資下降? 我對本地學校制度並不熟悉, 當初讓小兒進這學校是想讓他多接觸中文. 有沒有parents可給我中肯些的意見?

菲比B

我小朋友upper class, 由prenursery開始都係net teacher, 我暫未見過唔係net做st cat既英文老師

Eytc

師奶甲一天遇到師奶乙, 有以下對話 -

師奶甲: 你個仔好曳! 真係睇唔出!
師奶乙: 下? 幾時呀? 喺邊度呀? (師奶乙只想進一步了解下, 等自己可以管教一下自己個仔)
師奶甲: (為難地)唔講喇...縂之就好曳...
此時剛巧師奶丙、丁、戊經過, 加入討論...
師奶丙: 下? 乜佢個仔唔係出哂名乖嘅咩? 而家曳咗喇?
師奶丁: 唔出奇嘅, 小朋友越大越曳!
師奶乙: 不如你講清楚d 我個仔點曳吖?...或者交俾學校處理?
師奶甲: 唔得, 我講咗出嚟, 你個仔實知邊個打小報告, 我驚我個仔返到學校俾人bully...
師奶乙: 咁其實嗰個係咪真係我個仔嚟㗎? 你有無認錯人呀?
師奶戊: 咁你又唔好有被迫害妄想症, 阿甲講得俾你聽應該無錯㗎喇...
師奶甲: 係啦係啦, 唔緊要啦, 我都係抒發自己感受啫... 不過無諗過你個仔咁曳, 睇下啦, 希望遲d佢會乖返d...
師奶們各自散去... 師奶丙丁戊帶回家的印象, 或多或少就是"師奶乙個仔好曳!"
師奶乙無從得知事情來由和真相, 甚至嗰個係咪真係佢個仔, 天曉得!!
這翻討論沒有對師奶乙管教兒子帶來正面訊息; 對她兒子"疑似"不正當的行為毫無幫助...

samchan2179

原帖由 samchan2179 於 13-09-12 發表
My elder kid graduated already so my info  sy not be most updated. I met the class teacher of my kid ...

N progress seems to be slow in K1 but by the end of K3 she read Oxford reading tree stage 5 n I m happy with the progress yet ii know many smarter kids read stage 6 or 7 in k3 . we speak Cantonese at home n we did revision with my kid occasionally, may be twice a wk , 20 mins each time when my kid was in K2 n k3.  Workload in k3 is much higher than k2 as school tried to prepare them for primary school . U may feel more pressure in k3. Afterall i m happy that st cat gave good enough academic training to my kid n also a very happy school life .
Besides , There are always  not so good teachers even in the best school .

samchan2179

原帖由 vivian-chy 於 13-09-12 發表
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Happy for you that both of your kids got in a gd school. You must be very p ...

My elder kid graduated already so my info  sy not be most updated. I met the class teacher of my kid in st cat few wks ago, she told us that the school change the syllabus a bit n now with a bit more difficult  homework than before eg K3 second sem homework in the past has to be done in first sem now.  I remember , may be I m wrong , in K1 homework was very simple n easy n my kid can finish it in 15-20 mins everyday.  However many of my kid's classmates attend extra tutorial class like Enopi Kumon etc . We never did that n we were happy with the school curriculum. In K1

alfredw88

其實都唔知邊個老師，如果有姓名或班别都可以有其他家長可以comment 下，如今捕風捉影，對SC老師們不公平。

我也是SC家長，只能說這老師不是教我的兒子吧。

HaYi

會不是是個中文老師在有需要時說英文?

我大仔是SC 英普的畢業生, 現陳守仁(直資英小)P2,  佢個時冇PN, K1-K3 3年在SC, 覺得老師未必個個好關心學生個樣但語言的質素幾好, K2/K3的中文老師都嚴格同要求高的.  

作為家長, 去好多活動, 見中文老師上下堂及同家長對答都全部國語, 但有家長如果是native外國人不懂PTH, 可能中文老師會搭句英文, 佢地的英文就不可能全部好出色, 但英文老師的英文就不會, 全部很地道, 以英美音為多. .

我識不少SC畢業的小學生初小開始都選擇去補中文, 尤其是入中文小學的好多有此需要. 其實SC中文程度比起其它幼稚園不是差,  只不過大部份小朋友的英文比中文出色, 好似我個仔K3時程度可以類同普通官津小學的P3,   剛過去的P1暑假, 他可以做對大部份坊間P5的英文作業, 唯一是文法需要再加強.   

但相對中文佢K3之前好少看中文書, P1入學時中文的寫字作句較弱, 經過一年, 冇補習, 平時同暑假時由我地自己教, 亦可做番到坊間P2-P3的中文,依家要多睇書加強.  

vivian-chy

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Happy for you that both of your kids got in a gd school. You must be very pound of them... The teacher at st cat said there will be homeworks everyday starting from Oct. Do u still remember how much time your elder kid usually spend on? I'm a lazy parent too, can't constantly urge them on to study hard... Thx for sharing

oooasis

現在好多假net的（金髮碧眼就稍微可靠d），其他膚色好多都係本身有母語，只不過英文好就當係net（口音吓死人）。甚至有d亞洲人，只不過係外國住過幾年，讀過下書，講野扮到捲舌d，就扮係net。只可以話市場需求太大。
幼稚園有都唔出奇，英基都有喇。
所以有d家長唔好“被害妄想症”上身，認為有人提出學校不足之處就話人地係打手，係唱衰學校。客觀講句，st.cat又唔係咩好難入的學校。cckg，寶山都無人請打手喇
唔通只可以贊，見到問題就視而不見？

samchan2179

原帖由 vivian-chy 於 13-09-11 發表
會否方便透露最後你選擇了那間kinder給她/他?

My younger kid is studying in another "well known" kindergarten with NET teaching everyday .  The work load is a bit more n the syllabus is more difficult than St Cat but I personally  St Cat as we are lazy parents n we do not aim at 神級小學. But that school is also a good school with even higher academic standard  but comparing with St Cat it's seem life in St Cat is a bit happier

samchan2179

原帖由 Eytc 於 13-09-11 發表
to be fair I think you should disclose which class you kid is from, so parents can have fair discuss ...

Take it easy , no one know who are real St Cat parents here. Anyone can post some comments here even their kids are not studying in St Cat

Again I strongly advise u to "discuss" , not complain , this issue with school management unless u really decided to quit the school.  I m sure the school want to maintain their English standard as much as u do

bbalau

樓主，I hv sympathy for you. You simply wanted to express your concern and disappointment.  Sc has a long history for  preschool education. I think this is an isolated case.  I m sure parents will do the right things for their children.  There is nothing for other parents to worry about if they don't believe what u wrote.

Anyway, good luck !

bbalau

原帖由 alfredw88 於 13-09-11 發表
唔係好明，一個外籍人士講英文點夾雜廣東話？不過如果係真，我勸你都係無謂投訴，因為你之後點都會覺得被針 ...

外國回流呀。

alfredw88

唔係好明，一個外籍人士講英文點夾雜廣東話？不過如果係真，我勸你都係無謂投訴，因為你之後點都會覺得被針對。轉校吧！

vivian-chy

samchan2179 發表於 13-9-11 20:24
有兄姐讀，細果個都要自己考，無優先。今年st cat 唔收十月後細B，以前收的



  ...

會否方便透露最後你選擇了那間kinder給她/他?

vivian-chy

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First of all, I posted on pn page is purely because I posted on wrong page. What's the problem? I have no idea which fb group you are talking  about, why don't you just simply give me the details so that I can join immediately? And why you so sure that every parents joined the fb group and what's group? You know all the parents at st catherine? Im a working mom and the post was on the second day of the school start, how can I get "close" w other parents? Lastly, I refused to disclose the teachers name since my son is already there, anyone can 100% guarantee me theres no aftermath to my son.... Also, I haven't expected such a changelle to seek for opinions.

samchan2179

原帖由 applelove 於 13-09-11 發表
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不好意思! 想知道為什麼有哥哥/姐姐在讀, 學校都不收弟妹呢? ...

有兄姐讀，細果個都要自己考，無優先。今年st cat 唔收十月後細B，以前收的

Eytc

原帖由 vivian-chy 於 13-09-02 發表
小兒剛剛在St. Catherine開學, 就讀K1, 聽說這是一間幾全面的學校, 尤其著重語言發展. 但開課兩天, 發覺班 ...

to be fair I think you should disclose which class you kid is from, so parents can have fair discussion here!  If your kid is in K1 now, why you post this on PN page?  And if you are K1 parent, we have a close group Facebook page, you can raise this concern there, or even in Whatsapp group (if your class has created one)... Why Education Kingdom?  
But more appropriately I think you should talk to the English Department head at the school, I'm sure you know who right?!

vivian-chy

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如st cat真的official拒收小b, 唯有待明年. 其實做大b對小朋友及你都有好處, 以他們的年齡來說, 相差數月已很大分別, 吸收及表達能力好些, 他們的自信心都相應強化. 所以不用心急.... 小兒是大b.

crazymum

原帖由 applelove 於 13-09-11 發表
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不好意思! 想知道為什麼有哥哥/姐姐在讀, 學校都不收弟妹呢? ...

學校policy....冇辦法！