今日去參觀Harrow，其實無想像中咁多大陸人既學生！

JosephineSam

不過都唔易入

shadeslayer

Annie123 發表於 13-5-5 22:32
What I see is, there is a whole spectrum of students from any system.

Yes, what I am saying is that I suspect the spectrum (variance) of students' ability of the West is "wider" than the Asian's exam/execution oriented type of education.  I have no proof, my opinion is formed by my interaction with so many different types of people over the years and the nature of discovery approach vs exam oriented approach.

shadeslayer

There is a flip side to the IS way of teaching and discovery approach to learning, ie, the efficiency of teaching and exams scores are not as high as the Asian way.  The variance of capability of students is also higher than Asian.  In other words, their best students are better than ours but their worse students are worse than Asian too.

Littleho

There were many Asian students believing that they were good in maths especially those who were educated in Asia until junior high schools and subsequently went to study senior high schools in the West . They scored highly in tertiary entry exams and studied maths in university , but subsequently found they lacked behind their western counters when they were doing their 3rd and 4th year of bachelor degree . They just could not cope with the abstract concepts . I was one of then

Littleho

I have resisted the temptation of teaching my son to learn the short-cuts (viz higher year maths ' techniques ) . It took a longer time for my son to struggle with a math question , but it improved his understanding of the basic concept .

ANChan59

I agree with your point, IS more focus on exposure for future success.

For medic and law degrees, HK follows British system and not like American system. So it's the difference of systems and may not purely exposure and students show off their academic excellence. That's my observation from doctors.

cindyinhk

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Yes, if someone won't push or behave as tiger mum... but in IS, things are much easier with less homework. Actually, more time is allocated to reading widely, so as to know the whole world better, and to get rid of the narrow bias.

cindyinhk

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But a lot of top professors in HK universities are also from mainland China. Who can judge them simply according to one's own biased assumption?  A lot also have higher aims than being  lawyers or doctors,  typical most wanting jobs by a lot of elite local graduates as well.

whitesky

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I usually see it is the parents want their children to be a doctor or a lawyer. Those parents I know are simply practical and they just want their children get into a profession which can enable them to earn more money. This is the major driving force I see Chinese parents push their kids and make sure their children stay the top. Even though their kids study in International schools, some Chinese parents still push the kids like those in local schools.

bobbycheung

hkparent 發表於 13-5-1 14:34
I see that most top students in international schools in Hong Kong are Chinese. I am curious to know ...

A lot of the Chinese kids in Hong Kong want to be professionals such as doctors and lawyers etc.  They work extremely hard at school because they know they won't be able to get into medical or law schools etc. unless their academic results are truly outstanding. I believe this the reason why we see a lot of top students in international schools in Hong Kong are Chinese.  It definitely has nothing whatsoever to do with intelligence.  To me, it's more a question of how much time and effort you put in rather than anything else.

Once these top students are qualified to be doctors and lawyers, they will then devote their entire time and energy towards making money and I doubt any of them would be interested in doing research works let alone getting a Nobel prize.

shadeslayer

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The way I understand it, you don't need a debenture to get admitted.  The debenture just gives you priority.

hkparent

Then why? Is it because of the three million debenture? I can't afford.

shadeslayer

原帖由 hkparent 於 13-05-01 發表
酸葡萄心理，所以希望這所學校不好。

What should others be soured about? The name? The academic excellence?  The big and new campus?  Very difficult to get in?

shadeslayer

原帖由 hkparent 於 13-05-01 發表
因為我們大部份香港人都負擔不起，所以估計大陸人才有錢讀。好似豪宅，我們都估大部份俾大陸人住。



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From memory Harrow's tuition fee is about the same as CIS or HKIS.

hkparent

酸葡萄心理，所以希望這所學校不好。

hkparent

因為我們大部份香港人都負擔不起，所以估計大陸人才有錢讀。好似豪宅，我們都估大部份俾大陸人住。

clubmed

原帖由 nintendo 於 13-05-01 發表
本帖最後由 nintendo 於 13-5-1 10:51 編輯

咁真係唔明點解不時都會聽到話harrow好多內地人的.