九龍塘英藝vs迦南？

Kennis07

囡囡兩間都收左上午班，點決擇好？

BethMum

I agree with you. That's why my husband and his mother teach my baby Cantonese. She can now say 你坐係果邊，唔可以，刷牙等等~~that's why i don't worry about the cantonese.

BBMau818

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btw, if you target local school, cantonese is a must. from my friend's experience in K1 interview at the local 'dragon' kindergarten, they are all conducted in cantonese.
i started speaking to my boy in cantonese now!

BBMau818

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but my husband is native.... i hope it will get better soon

晞晞爸b

BBMau818 發表於 13-3-26 17:53
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我都困擾緊個仔係咪有confusion. 英文應該係佢 first language. 我阿爸阿媽同佢講廣 ...

我就係驚呢D...或者係賓賓教既英文..我寧願請印傭好過...

BBMau818

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我都困擾緊個仔係咪有confusion. 英文應該係佢 first language. 我阿爸阿媽同佢講廣東話， 但夾雜英文。 依家佢講chinglish ....like one 呀， two 呀， A 呀

BethMum

我奶奶同老公都係講廣東話，得我同工人講英文，可惜我翻工時間長，每日只有3幾個鐘陪個囡，所以佢依家廣東話強好多。我自己讀英文中學，深知英文教學對英文程度有極大影響，我唔覺非母語教學會影響吸收知識，而依家中學生最大問題係怕講英文。至於普通話，我囡囡翻playgroup每次都有15分鐘，以為佢唔明，原來佢慢慢都學識左小小，我希望佢小學開始普通話學中文，加埋閱讀習慣，中文一定更加好。可能自己本身教書，比較緊張吧

晞晞爸b

我成日有個錯覺: 除非我自己都係native..如果唔係既話..我好驚教出來既小朋友英文無論係口音或者英文用詞都會無咁正統及純正

所以即使我識英文都好我都唔敢用英文同我仔溝通.我寧願駛錢去俾D 真正既NET教..  

BBMau818

TVB fans!!!!

minirat

mamath 發表於 13-3-26 17:09
Haha, yes, we exchanged views before.  I type English a lot faster and therefore I've changed channe ...

Ya, I guess English speaking helpers probably contribute to a different language exposure for the new generation.  Maybe I don't see the same in my boy becoz his Cantonese speaking grandparents are his caretakers.

I share 晞晞爸b's view that most kids can change channels naturally, whereby I think 2 to 3 languages at one time is manageable.  Having said that, I agree with you that it's not easy to have one strong language if the child needs to manage more than one language at a time, unless he/she is good at it by nature.  Hence I will rather have my boy mastering a good command of English, over other languages.  I don't deny my freaking high ranking of the importance of English is working, very personal indeed.  In fact, I don't expect him to speak fluent Mandarin at this stage, and as a matter of fact for most kindergartens, Mandarin is probably just a supplementary language.  I believe he can always pick that up at Primary school stage.

It's a choice, really, nothing right or wrong.

BBMau818

我都覺得匪夷所思，兩公婆都講廣東話，但同個仔講英文。
個仔又真係冇渠道學廣東話噃。幾㱑人仔點會要出去應付日常生活所需呢？響屋企就係同賓賓溝通，番學係英普。
其實呢種家庭係十多年前好普遍，當時好重視英文，覺得廣東話冇用。你哋唔係香港大所以唔知。
我本人就想兩文三語，廣東話一定要識，國語非常重要（因為屋企冇人識講）！基本上大跨國公司家下mandarin is a must. 英文因我老公係英文人所以唔擔心！

mamath

晞晞爸b 發表於 13-3-26 16:53
呵呵..之前好像試過在另一帖跟你溝通(關於讀英藝的情況)..你一直都是用英文
我還以為你是ABC呢  .. ...

Haha, yes, we exchanged views before.  I type English a lot faster and therefore I've changed channel already

I do not deny that children in HK should be able to speak Cantonese even though without teaching at schools.  My concern is there should be at least one language which the kid is confident at so that he/she can express himself/herself well.  I think the key is the confidence in communicating with the others in the society, but not only family members.  Therefore, if you observe your kid is strong at communication, trilingual shouldn't be bad.  

I may not be so concerned about this if my kid is a girl.  Since boys are usually slower in language development, I am cautious not to push my boy too early.  I may however try Miriat's approach if mine is a girl who is generally more outspoken!

晞晞爸b

minirat 發表於 13-3-26 17:02
我跟Minirat可能是外來的..會覺得有點不可思議...因為我當年來香港之後也是被環境逼的我要立即學會廣東話才 ...

其實要多謝TVB..很多人來香港之後快速學廣東話的途徑之一就是靠看TVB的劇集學廣東話的.

minirat

晞晞爸b 發表於 13-3-26 16:53
呵呵..之前好像試過在另一帖跟你溝通(關於讀英藝的情況)..你一直都是用英文
我還以為你是ABC呢  .. ...

我跟Minirat可能是外來的..會覺得有點不可思議...因為我當年來香港之後也是被環境逼的我要立即學會廣東話才能在這裡生活...所以我們會覺得小朋友在香港這環境長大..日日夜夜家裡老師同學即使出街身旁都是廣東話...不需太刻意再去學...反而可以把握機會學英文及普通話....

完全是我好奇的point！

mamath

minirat 發表於 13-3-26 16:47
非常同意其實要配合每個家庭的情況
我仔仔其實有足夠的廣東話環境，因為屋企除了我，其他人都同他講廣東話 ...

I think it depends on the economic suitation of local families.  In the old days, kids in kindergartens were not equipped with English learning.  For the middle class families, surprisingly kids are more fluent in English but can only listen to Cantonese without speaking the latter well.  I guess this is very much related to the fact that most of their helpers are English speakers.   Sometimes I do wonder if my language policy is correct as it's very tempting to see young kids speaking good English.  My son is yet to be able to speak and I will continue to observe and see if he can master an additional language early.

晞晞爸b

mamath 發表於 13-3-26 16:32
其實我一直都很欣賞你和晞晞爸b的comments, 中肯而且有point.

On language policy, 每人各有不同的想法.  ...

呵呵..之前好像試過在另一帖跟你溝通(關於讀英藝的情況)..你一直都是用英文
我還以為你是ABC呢  ...你的英文很棒..很少香港本地人的英文可以好像你用字的詞語那樣...

我同意你的看法..本地家長其中一個考量可能是想打好廣東話基礎...
我跟Minirat可能是外來的..會覺得有點不可思議...因為我當年來香港之後也是被環境逼的我要立即學會廣東話才能在這裡生活...所以我們會覺得小朋友在香港這環境長大..日日夜夜家裡老師同學即使出街身旁都是廣東話...不需太刻意再去學...反而可以把握機會學英文及普通話....

我是國語人..我從小我爸就跟我講國語..我媽就跟我講閩南語..我會自動轉channel...其實小朋友的潛力很大...有時父母擔心的反而是多慮了..呵呵

呵呵..大家都對...還是那句話..每個父母考慮的東西都不一樣...
你說的很對..要看小朋友的能力和家庭的培育了   

minirat

mamath 發表於 13-3-26 16:32
其實我一直都很欣賞你和晞晞爸b的comments, 中肯而且有point.

On language policy, 每人各有不同的想法.  ...

非常同意其實要配合每個家庭的情況
我仔仔其實有足夠的廣東話環境，因為屋企除了我，其他人都同他講廣東話
所以我唔擔心他會唔識
普通話我覺得先階段可有可無
不過小學開始就會想他學，包括寫中文
英文是我本身比較重視的
所以就我地屋企語言環境來衡量，如果要練好英文，學校就是關鍵

其實我真系有少少好奇點解本地家庭的小朋友話唔識英文

mamath

minirat 發表於 13-3-26 15:39
其實我無勞氣，只是覺得有少少奇怪點解本地小朋友會唔識講廣東話
同埋我驚話廣東話唔重要會令香港家長覺得 ...

其實我一直都很欣賞你和晞晞爸b的comments, 中肯而且有point.

On language policy, 每人各有不同的想法. 我認同中英文重要, 但覺普通話其實十分易學. 我相信廣東話先作母語, 認為這樣小朋友適應社會會好d, 而且表達較有信心. 我認為與其細細個要立即轉台, 但可能出現語言混淆(不肯定但對語言能力較慢的小朋友可能是), 不如先集中兩種一兩種, 建立溝通和表達能力. 講到和講得好是有分別的.

跟你們相反, 我是道地的香港人. 我中學才學普通話, 其實一點也不難. 至於寫作方面, 普通話是較有幫助, 但只要愛看書, 要寫一手好中文亦不是難事.

總結而言, 要看小朋友的能力和家庭的培育了.

BethMum

原帖由 BBMau818 於 13-03-26 發表
我有D朋友嘅仔女真係唔識廣東話呀！淨同佢哋講英文

請問妳朋友係咪英藝讀? 我囡囡依家都係見人講人話，見鬼講鬼話

晞晞爸b

minirat 發表於 13-3-26 15:39
其實我無勞氣，只是覺得有少少奇怪點解本地小朋友會唔識講廣東話
同埋我驚話廣東話唔重要會令香港家長覺得 ...

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