鋼琴手形的問題? 請指教

mkwok

囝囝4歲開始學琴, 現在7歲, 5歲半考了2級, 之後阿Sir(很nice, 從不責罵囝囝)便叫我買2011/2012的5級書, 每堂慢慢教, 預計2012暑假或2013的4月考(我沒有要求考皇家, 因覺得現在才升小二, 另外知道升中也不計鋼琴), 現在其中一首已彈好.  見到有個小型的鋼琴比賽所以比佢玩下, 同場初賽有4位差不多同年紀的小朋友(3位彈4級歌), 他們個個的手形都很靚, 除了囝囝外(有時彈到手指瞓係度), 其實之前參加過校際, 評判都話佢的左手手臂提得過高, 阿sir話係佢坐得太前引致.  其實是否需要轉老師, 如繼續跟阿sir上堂是否都是好難改手形, 阿sir講過佢年紀還小, 大大下手指就會企係度, 是真的嗎?  

另外想問問3-4級每堂收300/45min, 合理嗎?

小伊

彈完2級就教5級，換轉系我第二堂就馬上轉老師。

bebebe12345

是合理的聲音,就是投入也容易不自覺地"緊"了。
不分男女都是一樣、最雖過的一關。
講跟做、二碼子事!

Karlhui

回復 bebebe12345 的帖子

好多人都係不斷追求自己更想要的聲音啦......
聽唔少老老師講,女仔特別容易去用膊頭借力

bebebe12345

哈哈!我鋼琴三囡囡還在追求中、
今年主力在放鬆頸關節。
通常最要留意的是膊頭.....包括小提琴和鋼琴.....最大的死穴。

四隻貓

我也覺得學會「放鬆」是十分重要！

Karlhui

回復 stinkyrabbit111 的帖子

The point of putting light stuff on the back of hands is trying to remind the kids that they should learn uplifting, supporting and balancing their hands/palm by using the muscle inside it. But I don't agree to do it on the piano as the actual coordination is different. If you put a rule on the hand and play the piano at the same time, you will lose flexibility from time to time. But a good hand shape is very essential to a pianist eventually as it will lead to good finger in-dependency and virtuosity with natural coordination. And in my concept, isolation is one of the main key in technique, use the right muscle, relax the unessential one. Excessive relaxation is as wrong as too much tension. Also, I don't really think 爪形手, especially 貓爪...., is a good description of a proper hand shape.

stinkyrabbit111

係囉~唔同stage, 隻手大小development都唔同，到大個咗，彈d難野快野，baroque, classical romantic stuff, 其實d爪形手，基本上無role; I had always wonder if kids should be taught differently, my thought is,  maybe more concentrate on relaxation on wrist, arms and application of force on the key; for shape of hands, maybe just maintain basic shape....I don't really "buy" putting stuff on the back of hands to make the child having to balance (even though I was trained this way too), this will make the kids hands and wrist so tensed up...lany teachers have any comment?

bebebe12345

手形.....
每一個學習的階段都會不停在改!
真正做得好絕對不簡單!

ebutterfly323

我女三歲零四個月開始學琴，到現在只學了五個月，初時miss 話佢手勢唔好，要求我買本小精靈練手勢，我見佢教我女係手指放上琴鍵的同時鉛筆也要平放手背，不能掉下！我女而家晚晚自己放筷子都平衡到。

miss.sasa

pls pm.

miss.sasa

回復 radioma 的帖子

pls PM to me, tks.

radioma

我仔個老師都係好注重手勢，佢話一開始唔執到大左係勁難執，我仔個老師佢有幫兒童雜誌寫專欄教人彈琴既方法，之前有幾篇就係講手型，有興趣可PM你

loloyen

我仔個老師一開始教就要先做好手勢,阿仔學了年多,現在上堂有時手指有啲變咗直,老師就會即刻話佢,佢係屋企練琴時我見到佢手指唔靚,我都會出聲話架!

mkwok

謝謝大家的意見, 首先我應該係要轉老師睇下囝囝的手形問題, 但都要我睇下遇吾遇到好老師了.  

coco_destiny

”大大下手指就會企係度“  
接受吾到,你個呀SIR都好求其

lillymarie

睇收費，我會睇下上到高級佢收幾多。驚學上去負担唔起。另外學費真的好海鮮價。我聽過900／45分鐘添！我會問自己負担得到嗎？值得花這錢在學琴上嗎？

bebebe12345

已經7歲、真的要好好地做做手形了。
慨然你已看了其他孩子而感不妥、合理要找別人看一看。