聽完真道簡介會, 有點失望

bamama

一直以來, 不少人也稱讚真道是一所很好的學校, 加上真道去年已認證為IB SCHOOL, 所以籍着小女快要報校之時, 去聽一聽有關簡介會, 了解一下不同的IB SCHOOL 有什麼分別.  在會上, 印象最深刻的是, 講者不停地說他們的學生取了很多獎, 學校又取得4張教育上的證書, 關於課程的發展, 似乎沒有太詳細的介紹, 這也不出為奇, 可能校方是想在家長發問時間, 等家長問了再解說. 但最令本人不明白的, 是校方不願在簡介會內回答有關IB的問題.

當時本人想詢問IB的問題, 講者便說, 小朋友現在才是BB, 幾時才到IB呢? 當時立即惹來家長們的笑聲, 講者又說, 這是最後一條IB問題. 當時我感到我受譏諷了, 我也回應了, 我相信很多家長也因為真道能提供IB的課程, 而來聽這簡介會, 之後我便把問題問完. 我感到的是, 真道說自己是IB學校, 又強調提供11年的教育, 而最後小朋友是要考IB / 334 的大學入學試, 家長在問有關IB的問題有何不可? 我擔心的是, 如果小朋友上課時問了一些超越課程的問題, 會否同樣受到譏諷? 如果校方不想在會上回答有關問題, 大可請家長會後留步再談, 實在不用如此對待家長.

當日我的問題是: 真道會提供多少個IB的學額? 校方回答, 只有最多1/3的高中學生有機會讀IB.

我相信有關的比例, 絕對會影響家長會否選擇真道, 那為什麼在入學簡介會中不能問IB問題?

我只是把實情說出, 很想知, 這是學校的風氣, 還是講者(在真道做了10年課程的博士)個人的問題?

對真道, 真的很失望! 也力勸所有家長, 不要單靠口碑, 一定要親自去多了解學校, 才替小朋友選校.

ANChan59

Loud and clear. Thanks.

bamama

Hehe, 係TSA.

正正因為咁，所以各家長一定要做足功課，好好地了解學校，看看是否與小朋友的個性和能力，及家長的期望類近，以免發生錯配，否則結果又是苦了小朋友。

cstchan

bamama 發表於 12-4-7 20:14
謝謝提醒。但有些真資學校會以本地的課程，但IB的模式教學。如元朗的宏信書院便是（小兒就讀的學校），而王 ...

那些聲稱以IB模式教學的學校，不一定真的以IB模式教學。那些沒有說以IB模式教學的學校，也可以滲入當中的元素。只要IB School，IBO才能確定學校是跟隨她的模式教學。


現在已經沒有TOC (Target Oriented Curriculum)，你指的應該是TSA (Territory-wide System Assessment)。除了英基和國際學校，所有學校 (包括直資和私立) 的學生都要參加。

因為TSA教核的內容其實比正常教學範圍少和淺，所以學校不一定會操練學生，也許只需要在考試讓學生熟習考試模式。那些以IB模式教學的學校，其實也可以操練學生。

bamama

謝謝提醒。但有些真資學校會以本地的課程，但IB的模式教學。如元朗的宏信書院便是（小兒就讀的學校），而王錦輝也有引入IB的元素教學。

老實說，對於小一便要開始做TOC練習，而小三，小六（隔年）就要為TOC而操練，實在反感。所以可以有另類的選擇，我願意去多了解。

cstchan

bamama 發表於 12-3-22 16:47
就我自己的考慮 :

1. 我確想小朋友讀IB課程, 但因想小朋友多學一點中文, 所以不選國際學校;

在香港，根本沒有直資小學提供IBPYP課程，私校中也只有滬江維多利亞學校提供 (MYP & DP也有)，其餘都是國際學校。
直資中學中，也只有啟思中學提供IBMYP課程 (也有DP)，男拔、男女保羅、真道都只提供IBDP課程，另有私立中學蔡繼有也提供IBDP課程。

TansonMa

Bobbi, 第三輪小一簡介會在4月27日舉行，先打電話預位喇！
http://www.logosacademy.edu.hk/frameset02.htm

bighead9849

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FOR 2013 9月入學的

bobbi

請問個簡介會係幾時舉行?
係咪FOR 2012年9月入學之學生?

ziyi

littlefaith 發表於 12-3-25 20:05
Is there any evidence to prove your points? If what you've said were true, there would have been ple ...

為什麼越講越遠
如果他說男拔是很有制度的分開
因為男拔小跟男拔中是2間獨立的學校
而每年男拔都會公開收中學部的學生
但真道自小學部的學生升上中學部後...根本沒有再公開收生
個人的看法:兩者是有分別的,有不可比性

而前校長沒有說什麼不對的事...當年我參加了2次的簡介,學校說明了正在申請IB,很多事不能說...我接受
相反...區內另一學校的校長..卻在簡介會批死LOGOS沒有可能辦得成IB DP.我聽落有些不舒服的

學校...有人喜歡有人唔喜歡,因各有需求

而校長獨行..但卻受到大部份家長/學生的歡迎又為什麼?
我相信跟人與人相處是一樣的...因他真心對小朋友好/對家長好
這才最重要...
如果一個為學生的人....會為了這些??咁應該去做商業機構還實際!!

stseng

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tko-parent 難道你認識PY 或是PY肚裏條虫, 否則你從何得知?  如果估估吓, 冇根冇據而甘講, 好似系人身攻擊或誹謗喎.

ANChan59

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The risk is low as for primary, I would say go for a try, but also consider the back up plan for just in case.

catyoyo

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Dear ANChan59,

Thanks a lot for your sharing regarding IB.  I am so lazy that having not get through all details regarding IB, still I prefer its concept and put my elder son into this direction. I think his style fit this and he enjoy much.  Now my younger son will go to P1 soon but he is different style.  He likes follow instructions.  But i hope that he can be more proactive in learning and in his life hence I decide to go for the same direction.  It is risk taking but i hope that we can make it together.    Any advice for me?

catyoyo

littlefaith

tko-parent 發表於 12-3-25 11:54
I don't think its his "PHILOSOPHY", he is not such great. I think its just a little idea of him to c ...

Is there any evidence to prove your points? If what you've said were true, there would have been plenty of schools for him to 'continue his career' and 'earn more'.

tko-parent

I don't think its his "PHILOSOPHY", he is not such great. I think its just a little idea of him to continue his career. No need to retired after 60 in DSS school, can give himeself a much more salary than in a Aided school, can be a Principal of both a secondary school and a primary school which cannot be realize in Aided schools. And the most important point is no one can control him to do anything in the first few years, the School Board cannot, EDB cannot, he make himself a King in LA.

ANChan59

DSS and IB approach together is the new phenomenon in HK, we should be more open mind and patient to those school, let those schools to trial and error..... it's an uncharted territory. As all pioneers face challenges, changed environments, not as planned results...... they move on based on their vision and mission.

I will be more sympathetic to them, if not, everyone will pull back and no more innovative ideas and changes......but they need to be honest and transparent to themselves, parents and the public.

Personally, I prefer IB; but not suitable for all kids, not because of academic capability and language proficiency, also need to consider their character and their personal learning methods. As no ones-fit all type of curriculum, certain flexibility within the school is good enough to cater all kids' diversity. I don't say IB or NSS which one is better. I would say IB fit my son better, without knowing his grades in IBDP,

ANChan59

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I guess .......如有類同，實屬巧合
Fxnny was impressed by PY's education philosophy and encouraged him and the sponsor institution to start LA under DSS. PY's idea was in good intention to translate the IB methodology into local DSS with reasonable cost, may have blessing(s) from the EDB senior official(s) for certain flexibility in curriculum.

When Fxnny was out of EDB after series of reforms, other EDB officials will follow the DSS rule strictly, all DSS schools must follow "majority of students need to study NSS and then take HKDSE". What PY can do either follow other IB schools like DBS and SPCC or like the current arrangement for compliance,

(I assume all are 1/3)
1. HKDSE
2. IBDP
3. IBDP + HKDSE

It means 2/3 students taking IBDP and 2/3 taking HKDSE and complied to DSS ruling, also satisfy most parents' needs.

In DBS, only 1/4 IB quota from EDB.... max 60 for IB. 180 for NSS. The original plan was 100 IB quota after the completion of the IB building. IB has separate classrooms, labs and POSH library in the IB building. It means 無牙力 just bullshit.

As PY was out last year, we need to be fair, patient and sympathetic to the new administration, give them some time. They work extremely hard to clear up and fix those problems ......

tko-parent

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It just a quoting mistake.

I mean DBS (not DBSPD) offers both HKDSE (or 3-3-4) and IB course. They have separate admission procedure, just like 2 independent schools.

DBSPD is a English local primary school offers only the local course (Syllabus).

YanKanMom

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謝謝你的分享!


完全認同
"Also, don't take IB as fancy and trendy topic, it needs commitment and better planning for it. The kid as the key stakeholder needs to sacrifice and works extremely hard to learn and get good grades (求學不單是求分數)."


天父很眷顧你, 有一個聰明好學的兒子.  聰明是一份恩賜, 但勤力好學更重要, 這也是我最希望我的子女可做到的.

ANChan59

ziyi

I know, I addressed the clarification to tko_parent only.

I hope the clarification of IB admission talk meet your need.