IBDP Bilingual Diploma

ANChan59

Just for curiosity, IS, ESF & some IB DSS have any % or quota of IBDP bilingual diploma ..... not necessary Chinese and English, may be other combinations.

I heard about a school pushed her students >50% to bilingual diploma, do you think it's realistic? According to IBO, around 30% students awarded bilingual diploma, students' results may be affected or they must be very very good, but I doubt it.

A friend who knows IB more than I, shared with me that, if we consider IBDP results, we also need to consider the following:

1. actual scores out of 42 and 45;
2. bilingual diploma or not;
3. taking syllabus B or AB in group 2;
4. taking maths studies instead of maths; and
5. university destinations.

His rationale likes this: Score high in IBDP with bilingual diploma, it means take both languages as mother languages in A SL/HL, the results are impressive. Maths Studies is much much easier than Maths, but it's ok for non-numerate students, if more than half of students taking MS...... something fishy. The most important is university destinations, if the scores so high, but the universities not match with the results, something wrong of the combinations and most universities discount their subjects like Mandarin B/AB, Chinese B/AB......may not count.....

His comment is LPC still the best in HK, as top 50 high schools have high % of students get into Ivy League, only 2 out of US, one is LPC. [In late 2007, the Wall Street Journal identified the College as one of the world's top 50 schools for its success in preparing students to enter Ivy League universities, one of only 2 schools located outside the US. http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/info-COLLEGE0711-sort.html] It sounds interesting to me, but it's too late for my son.

I try to verify with some "elite" IS, ESF and LPC....    IS around 30% bilingual diploma, aligned with world average, ESF <30%, no data from LPC.

Criteria 1-5, up to you to research and analyse....you draw your own conclusion.

After review such facts, my son should take the following to get into medicine (forget about bilingual diploma):

English A L&L SL
Chinese B HL
Maths Studies SL
Chemistry HL
Physics SL
Economics HL

What do you think? It's cool ......

[ 本帖最後由 ANChan59 於 11-11-21 03:30 編輯 ]

ksenia

Maths Studies is definitely not enough to get into medicine in Hong Kong. They won't even consider it according to LPC's university counselor. My daughter has the same problem as her maths is not very good. However she managed to get a achievement grade 6 for Chinese in her first term and 5 for her English HL. Achievement grade is based on your tests but not predicted. She is confident to get a PG 7 for Chinese and will drop English to SL. That's why we still stick on Maths Standard.

sks222

Annie123,

非常感激你的回复， 我本提议他 English A 读 HL, Theatre 读 SL, 但他较有把握Theatre 拿高分，兴趣也非常大。

我上了几间大学的网站都找不到它们的Admission Requirements, 你可以将你知道需要English　A　HL　的 Arts/Humanities faculites 告知我吗？

谢谢！！

WYmom

Annie123, thanks a lot for your info. my daughter only likes playing and have fun...Ha!  She will likely take Physics, Geog, and one more to be decided...

ANChan59,

I of course expect her to score high...but difficult to tell... anyway, we follow her teachers' recommendation as her teachers are very experienced and can offer very clear and fair recommendation based on students' GCSE results.  I don't know IBD well, so just rest assured with the school.

ANChan59

WYmom & Annie123

If your daughters aim for bilingual diploma - both Chinese and English are A HL/SL, what do you expect of their grades in Chinese and English and overall.

Pls pm me your expectation.

ANChan59

kym

I see, thanks for the reply.

sks222

小兒与Annie123的女兒同校， 他希望完成DP后到美国讀心理学。 下星期便要交 DP Option form,  初步他打算選：

Psychology     HL
Biology           HL
Theatre           HL
English A         SL
Chinese A       SL
Maths             SL

请对他的選择給点意见， 谢谢！

WYmom

原帖由 kym 於 11-11-25 19:19 發表
WYmon,

May I know why your daughter need to take GCSE exam? Since you have made the decision of doing IB.

Kym

It is the system of all ESF secondary schools, they have to take GCSE and then IBD; except the 2 PIS schools (RC and DC) under ESL which are using MYP and IBD.

[ 本帖最後由 WYmom 於 11-11-25 21:17 編輯 ]

kym

WYmon,

May I know why your daughter need to take GCSE exam? Since you have made the decision of doing IB.

Kym

WYmom

I don't know if it is difficult for her or not, but her teacher already advised that she should start reading some Chinese materials for preparing IB Chinese A now even she has to take GCSE exam a few months later.  Yet  I don't think my daughter will have time to start any IB stuff now!

annie40

Wow, your girl must be very smart to take both languages A.  

原帖由 WYmom 於 11-11-25 16:37 發表
My daughter may take 2 humanities or 2 Science subjects... still thinking.  Language subjects will be English A and Chinese A for sure.

WYmom

My daughter may take 2 humanities or 2 Science subjects... still thinking.  Language subjects will be English A and Chinese A for sure.

annie40

Annie123,

Chinese teachers confirmed that my girl  can take Chinese 1st languages in IGCSE in year 10.  After seeing the result  she can consider to go either Chinese B , or Chinese A in IB then.   

Anyway, it's wonderful that she can choose what she wants.

annie

原帖由 Annie123 於 11-11-23 22:32 發表
看，要小朋友讀書好，興趣多重要。
其實如果學校讓他讀 CHINESE B，應該是最好的選擇。

annie40

My girl's school states :

it's expected that student take a named Arts subject in Group 6 to match the IBO philosophy of ensuring curriculum breadth across the six subject groups.  Therefore students will need to provide the upper school team with a strong rationals linked to university entrance or future career path as to why they might use Group 6 for an elective block for a second subject.  

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The expectation seems very reasonable and I would encourage my girl to follow it even arts subjects are not her most favorite one.  

原帖由 WYmom 於 11-11-24 15:57 發表
Hi, Annie123,

For language subjects, my kid's school gives very fair recommendations to my child and we have no objections.  But for group 6 subjects, the school this year strongly asks the students  ...