自閉症兒腦較重 腦神經元較多

myson727

我都唔米離個"field", HAHAHAHAHA
都是聽醫生講解，上網，睇書...HAHA

上述講笑算la，香港人都習慣靠自己，我幾個同事見倒我仔，由弱能級語言能力、經常發夢發呆，...進步到現在同人有傾有講，識得同人玩，自己做功課，安慰妹妹，講下學校的趣事...，都帶左小朋友去驗。

用"電腦病毒"比喻為影響小朋友發展的障礙物(例如重金屬、環境毒素、食物敏感、腸內惡菌...)也好貼切，"電腦病毒"影響他們腦部運作，只要清除左D"病毒"及障礙物，身體就能回復正常，發揮潛能，甚至"特異功能"，好似我仔對D直線特別敏感，自己學睇五線譜，教他小提琴老師已為我教，考一級小提琴時，sight reading有18分(滿分21分)，對聲音又敏感，聽得出D線唔啱音要tune。

原帖由 LPYdad1 於 11-12-9 23:14 發表
Hahaha...
Maybe I said "breaking their rice bowl" being exaggerated. But pls remember they are just not the field you are talking.
A gd metaphor for what you are talking.
Our kid is just like a comput ...

[ 本帖最後由 myson727 於 11-12-14 12:42 編輯 ]

LPYdad1

Hahaha...
Maybe I said "breaking their rice bowl" being exaggerated. But pls remember they are just not the field you are talking.
A gd metaphor for what you are talking.
Our kid is just like a computer.
Those inflammation, toxication and adverse effect of development disorder is just like a virus in your computer or a burned wire.
What bio-medical treatment doing is TRYING to clearing up your virus or fixing your wounded wire. If you dont do this part SUCCESSFULLY, your computer may work partially but still in trouble, your CPU may be broken finally.
Other treatment like acupuncture, AIT or cranisacral are just like some cleaning kit to your computer.
If your computer has broken for some time, of course, your software will be outdated.
ABA, floor time (greenspan) or RDI are just like upgrading your software from DOS to Win Vista.
ST, OT, PT or SIT are just like upgrading your wordprocessing or spreadsheet software (from wordstar to winword??? Lotus to excel???)
A gd social class is like upgrade your lotus notes to IE.
Of course, it's just a metaphor, dont get too detailed.
But pls remember, fix your computer in 1st priority before it is too late

myson727

其實生物療法 -- 醫內，傳統行為治療 -- 醫外，一主內，一主外，相輔相承，我都識有家長做兩樣，"內外相收"，都唔會"打爛人地的飯碗"瓜，最緊要我地A仔有進步。

原帖由 LPYdad1 於 11-11-19 01:29 發表
Bio-medical treatment starts at about late1980 in US (Sorry I lost those exact text about the exact date since I have moved recently) First worldwide recognized conference held in 1995 at US.
The fun ...

myson727

剛剛做生物療法時，醫生都有開消化酶比我仔食，每餐都要食，同時也要戒牛奶小麥，大概食左半年，之後無再開。

原帖由 HgI 於 11-11-18 18:13 發表
Digestive enzyme (with DPP IV) can help to digest gluten and casein

http://www.enzymestuff.com/basicsproductguidelines.htm

[ 本帖最後由 myson727 於 11-11-22 12:48 編輯 ]

LPYdad1

Bio-medical treatment starts at about late1980 in US (Sorry I lost those exact text about the exact date since I have moved recently) First worldwide recognized conference held in 1995 at US.
The fundamental theory of bio-medical treatment is not very difficult to understand esp for doctors or psychiatrists who is holding a medical degree
(Starting from leaky guts to ruined self-detoxic system , by then repairing immune system and inflammation/distortion of brain development, etc)
I guess parents could understand thoroughly if u take some time to locate those info from internet or library. Much info is also available in Chinese. There is an USA association named Defeat Autism Now! (DAN!),registering those doctors practising bio-medical treatment to patients. Most "Dan" doctors who are doctors or psychiatrists.
In HK, there are less than 10 similar these doctors. Not all these doctors are registered DAN docs, but I guess it is not a problem since the basic theory is not difficult to understand. But rumors did occur among patients & its parents about each doctor which I wont comment. I sincerely recommend that please go to see one (not some famous icon which u may know whom I am talking about) before using those treatment or supplement. (though I am not a doc nor a person in such field even)
The DAN association did claimed that their successful rate to have a kid recovered completely or significantly up to 20-30%.
Talking about HK govt altitude towards autism or PDD. Of course, it is just…
Before talking about anything, I remembered I have attended a memorable seminar about Japanese cartoonist who wrote the famous comics – “walking w/ Hikari” died 3 yrs ago. What became immemorable to me is that the chairwoman from the Parents of HK autism association (sorry I don’t know the exact name) spoke up and launched most urgent 10 requests to HK govt (and stress first 2 are most urgent) for what they are seeking HK govt to provide support. 1st is Integration w/ society, 2nd is career support. Their 3rd item is already support in bio-medical treatment. So our HK govt must know what parents are seeking in HK.
Why they wont listen?
Or should I say they wont bother (since autism or PDD is not mortal perhaps).
In the beginning, I guess HK govt might not know the effectiveness of Bio-T. But as I said before, or other then medical journal, you might even find the Pearl report or the article from Times magazine. It is generally adopted in US, Europe, Australia & New Zealand and insurance did covered some. HK govt is impossible to know its feasibility. 2nd I guess HK govt might need to inject too many fund to start on such method and dared not to bear the consequences unlike US & some Europe countries. But our govt did spend quite a lot on autism support and their integrated education (though not effective I guess). Seems money is the key problem wor~.
One day I got an insight from a discussion with a doc about this issue. He told me one thing. Special need education has been adopted in Hong Kong for at least 30 years. What yr kid has seen from govt hospital, CAC, social worker, therapist from charity organizations have run such program for a few decades already. Doctors as psychiatrist and psychologist are hired through hospital. OT, ST & PT therapists of CAC & charity org. registered after graduates received their college degree with years of practices. They are so-called the mainstream intervention in HK. But now, you are telling them that their method from years of study is out-dated & inefficient. Autism should be more a NEUROTIC matter (even Temple Grandin agreed) than a psychiatric one. If they should do medication (so-called alternative method in HK???) rather than training. Aren’t you just “breaking their rice bowls”??? What become more ironic is that there are more and more textbooks & journals treating medication ahead of therapy and education.
So if myson727 and Henrymama said HK govt is too conservative or behind in treating autism, I would say that they are just not in this field for what u are talking about. Hahaha...

[ 本帖最後由 LPYdad1 於 11-11-19 01:35 編輯 ]

HgI

Digestive enzyme (with DPP IV) can help to digest gluten and casein

http://www.enzymestuff.com/basicsproductguidelines.htm

why-me

myson727
請問有咩野可以幫助分解穀膠蛋白?
謝謝!

myson727

找到了有關報道:
http://bbs.qoos.com/viewthread.php?tid=1555561

因牛奶中的牛奶蛋白和小麥中的穀膠蛋白，不 能 完 全 分 解， 會 產 生 毒 素 上 腦 ， 破 壞 腦 細 胞 ， 出 現 幻 覺 及 發 展 障 礙 等 問 題 當。

原帖由 Henrymama 於 11-11-17 22:08 發表


thanks myson727

她無飲牛奶, 有吃麵包,
我明天代她去睇醫生, 睇下點講.  

myson727

她有無飲牛奶(或牛奶製品)及吃麵包(即小麪製品)的習慣，戒左可能會好D，不如試下找個DAN doctor睇下。
幾年前有雜誌都報導過，好似有個輕度弱智的女仔，出現幻覺，開始以為精神病，後期用生物療法OK番。

原帖由 Henrymama 於 11-11-17 16:09 發表


Thank you!

我呢兩日覺得阿媽有幻覺, 唉,
可能要帶佢去睇精神科先得.

myson727

其實在Google揾"biomedical treatment" 或"生物療法"就可找到很多資料，中文的可參考:
http://www.littlegiant.com.hk/common/fz-zb-detail.html#fz1

驗血、尿、屎等比較貴(但我媽媽無驗)，平均幾千元一個test，覆診連一星期藥幾百元(貴與平見人見智)

原帖由 Henrymama 於 11-11-16 14:39 發表


Hi myson727,

請問有無生物療法的資料? 貴唔貴? tks!

myson727

"科技在進步, 香港的醫生特別是政府醫生, 用藥好保守, 有時跳出個range,.."
好讚同Henrymama的講法，其實外國有好多好多資料，只是香港比較保守(其實是落後)。

講到老人家，我自己媽媽也做緊生物療法及戎口，因為前幾個月腳痛，中西醫都睇過，驗的照的都做齊，又有老人痴呆的情況出現(我婆婆都有老人痴呆)，無記性，精神難集中，...，做生物療法後慢慢好番，一個月後隻腳就唔痛，最重要是精神好番晒，醒好多。

原帖由 Henrymama 於 11-11-15 23:50 發表


我都唔知點安慰你.

我見到有個topic有媽咪揾DR. KU睇佢地的小朋友, 食左一些supplements, 有D小朋友真係有效, 因此我上網去揾關於DR.KU的資料(因為我媽最近記憶力衰退的好快, 搞到我好擔心), 見到佢都 ...

why-me

我都明, 我好盡心盡力去照顧我個仔, 但始終有一日我會老,我會死....
咁到時邊個理佢, 呢點我到而家都唔知點算

原帖由 Henrymama 於 11-11-14 15:13 發表


唔好傷心啦, 其實到現在好多病都唔知係點回事, 都唔想係咁既嘛.
無野係完美的, 曾經有位媽咪講過, 上天給我一個小朋友, 係因為上帝覺得我會對他最好, 最懂得照顧愛惜他.

一世人的經歷一定有起伏, 各人都有自己的 ...

myson727

貼個正確的link:

"自閉症研究發現，遺傳不再是主因！"
http://www.autismawakening.org/DispOneMessage.asp?txtOrgCode=Autism&Category=01&ID=Autism40751937539727&Page=

[ 本帖最後由 myson727 於 11-11-15 16:53 編輯 ]

myson727

上網睇到以下文章，睇左可能會令你好D。

"自閉症研究發現，遺傳不再是主因"

[url=http://www.autismawakening.org/DispOneMessage.asp?txtOrgCode=Autism&Category=01&ID=Autism40751937539727&age]http://www.autismawakening.org/DispOneMessage.asp?txtOrgCode=Autism&Category=01&ID=Autism40751937539727&age[/url]=

原帖由 why-me 於 11-11-14 12:28 發表
研究指出：「皮質神經元並非後天產生，因此自閉
兒神經元病態增生顯示是胎兒時期因素。」研究人員表示，「產前存在或出現缺陷細胞，恐和罹患自閉症有關」。

好內疚..........


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[ 本帖最後由 myson727 於 11-11-15 16:48 編輯 ]