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教育王國 討論區 幼校討論 「幼稚園學券逃亡潮?」《2012-2-19 14間退出名單》 ...
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本帖最後由 iantsang 於 12-5-10 11:40 編輯

「學前教育學券計劃」推出已有四年,但最近接二連三收到不少熱門幼稚園將於下學年退出參與該計劃的消息,不禁聯想起「直接資助計劃」推出後的二分局面。在自由市場定位及用者自負的原則下,莫非教育自主真的非用學費換來不可?到頭來甚麼美其名的十五年免費教育,最後把幼稚園分成參加和不參加學券計劃的分別,又是否另一項會將幼兒教育推至兩極化的政策?


面對着近年持續上升的租金、通貨膨漲和幼稚園老師需求的不斷上升,無可避免對幼稚園的營運造成龐大的成本壓力。雖然早前局方有意跟隨整體通漲調整學費上限,但實際上幼稚園成本的升幅遠超整體通漲,這正為多間幼稚園相繼退出學券計劃埋下伏線。


另一方面,教育政策與現實需求的不符亦造成部份幼稚園選擇「跳船」,退出參加學券計劃。縱然教育局多年來積極推動愉快學習,讓幼兒在無壓力的情況下上學,但另一方面又積極鼓勵名校轉為直接資助。可惜的是在這環境下,幼兒反而變成從自出娘胎開始便要提早起步,以配合父母為他們五年後的小一面試好好裝備,以求達到非名校不入的目標。


很多家長或許會認為,幼稚園不參與學券計劃是一件好事。因為少了限制、多了資源,必定能提供更大空間和課程自主,將現有課程質素提升。但要注意這推論並不是必然成立的,因為大部份退出的幼稚園,現時的學費已處於上限$24,000一年,其實不繼續參加學券可能只為舒解通漲的壓力,家長切勿一廂情願認定退出的幼稚園必會作出重大的改變。


由於預計明年將無法在保持於學券計劃的上限範圍內,繼續保持一貫的教學質素,這些幼稚園在別無他法下放棄繼續參與,實在無可厚非。縱使學費的升幅只為扺銷通漲的影響,但就算只是每年一千元的加幅,對原可使用學券的家長來說,卻是一萬七千元的分別(現時每年學券資助為一萬六千元),究竟是否非加不可呢?


當然,亦有部份幼稚園確實以提升課程自主性為目標,去爭取較佳的競爭力或加強與學術水平較高的小學函接,而選擇不繼續參加學券計劃。在現實社會中,這是一種很基本的供求關係。由學校提供相應的學習環境去滿足部份家長對普及教育所不能提供的元素。但是,這不正是跟直接資助計劃的方向一樣嗎?


想當年在九年免費教育出台前,學校之間就如百家爭鳴的境況。私立學校各有各自的特色,不少有教會背景的學校在有限資源下,為貧苦大衆提供受教育的機會。跟着私校都變成津校,隨着時間流逝,「校本條例」的出現,正是要為繼續留守的津校都跟隨主流環境而行。失去了原本的辦學理念,學校就如失去了靈魂一樣,留下的只有一個一個倒模出來的軀殼。另一邊廂,直接資助的學校在收取政府資助及家長學費的下,打造出一些提供給有經濟能力家庭的「另類選擇」。


或許,根本已經沒有人再介意了。但是教育,真的是要用錢才能買到的?


難道這就是我們希望教育下一代的價值觀嗎?


「跳船」名單(2012-2-19 已更新):

現年學費為$24,000(全年)

聖保祿幼稚園

香港靈糧堂幼稚園

天主教聖猶達幼稚園(將於2012年改名為「高主教書院幼稚園部」)

啟思幼稚園(九龍塘正校)

鑽石山靈糧幼稚園

嘉德麗幼稚園(富山)



現年學費低於$24,000(全年)

聖公會幼稚園鐵崗)(由2012-2013年度幼兒班開始,中環校及畢拉山校合併為聖公會幼稚園)

聖公會幼稚園(畢拉山)(由2012-2013年度幼兒班開始,中環校及畢拉山校合併為聖公會幼稚園)

宣道幼稚園

民生書院幼稚園

九龍禮賢學校暨幼稚園

基督教臻美秀華幼稚園

聖安多尼中英文小學暨幼稚園

萊恩幼稚園(元朗)


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巧婦難為無米炊,政府又要馬兒好,又要馬兒不吃草。作為好嘅學校,為抗通漲同提升教學質素,我相信呢個係正 ...
Actually in my opinion, it is not difficult to resolve this issue.  All they need to do is to raise the ceiling of the max tuition fees allowed and many of these can be avoided.  If the EDB can announced the increment (eventually it is increasing from $24,000 to $25,200) sooner, I think many parents can be benefited!!!  I am sure some of them only have to leave the system due to such limitation.  Of course, I can also tell the remaining leave the system simply because of more freedom on how to decide their own curriculum.

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So agreed!!!

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巧婦難為無米炊,政府又要馬兒好,又要馬兒不吃草。作為好嘅學校,為抗通漲同提升教學質素,我相信呢個係正常嘅結果。只嘆班做官嘅只識享朝廷俸祿,不理民間疾苦。

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本帖最後由 iantsang 於 12-5-10 11:43 編輯

最新「跳船」名單(2012-2-19 已更新):

十四所退出學券計畫幼稚園名單

現年學費為$24,000(全年)

聖保祿幼稚園

香港靈糧堂幼稚園

天主教聖猶達幼稚園(將於2012年改名為「高主教書院幼稚園部」)

啟思幼稚園(九龍塘正校)

鑽石山靈糧幼稚園

嘉德麗幼稚園(富山)



現年學費低於$24,000(全年)

聖公會幼稚園鐵崗)(由2012-2013年度幼兒班開始,中環校及畢拉山校合併為聖公會幼稚園)

聖公會幼稚園(畢拉山)(由2012-2013年度幼兒班開始,中環校及畢拉山校合併為聖公會幼稚園)

宣道幼稚園

民生書院幼稚園

九龍禮賢學校暨幼稚園

基督教臻美秀華幼稚園

聖安多尼中英文小學暨幼稚園

萊恩幼稚園(元朗)

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根本學校同家長為了保障自己的社經地位,自然會加強資源,確保窮人的孩子追唔到上來,自己間學校同孩子可以繼續贏在起跑線。要解決唯有取消私校,全部學校公營化、統一化。不過咁既教育大鑊飯,你應該會避之則吉!至於學券資助私校,你認為有資助佢地就唔會找辦法加學費?

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Today in Oriental Daily......

名幼園紛跳船 學券制瀕崩潰

http://orientaldaily.on.cc/cnt/news/20111112/00176_012.html

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原帖由 iantsang 於 11-11-11 12:36 發表


Yes, I know and I have replied you.  Did you notice?


噢~ 可能沉左底~

anyway, ur info and advice is really helpful to us!

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所以未來由幼稚園開始就會分階級,係街見到小朋友著嘅校服就知讀唔讀得起?咁細個就被標籤?而家係街見到有小朋友著名校校服好羨慕,但都係因為個小朋叻而入到,而唔係用$$去分,政府唔support ,係咪要立法唔可以著校服返學比較好呢?
好可悲嘅政策!

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原帖由 vnghk0001 於 11-11-11 11:33 發表
跳船嘅學校因營運資金問題,如果學費唔係加得多,因通賬問題我諗唔會有太大改變,只不過而家係用家自付。
咁係咪唔跳船嘅學校為左生存而會縮減成本呢?老師都係打工,你冇可能減人工,唔加、加少啲又轉校,教材年年加價,咁會係減乜 ...


I think you have brought up a good point, one of my underlying questions from this article.

With a fixed amount of incomes, by nature there are only two ways to resolve it, either by increasing incomes or lowering costs.  From this article, we have learned some have chose the first option, but the another question is how about those who chosen not to increase incomes can survive?

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原帖由 iantsang 於 11-11-11 12:23 發表


Yes, it is a pity that quite a number of kindergartens would have to deal with such amount of financial pressure under the current scheme.  It is a difficult decision I am sure.


It seems the kindergarten situation similar to the primary school.

The 'voucher' scheme seems useless.

If you have enough financial support, your kids will get more.

But, education should be equal to every child.
Otherwise, it may create many society problem of our next generation in the future.

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其實咪又係公私營e院的問題, 公家e院d e生不斷走去私家e院搵$, 公院俾唔到的野咪去私院搵law, 同樣, 有學卷的學校俾唔起$請高質素的老師, 咁佢地咪走law, 可憐我地呢班年年交足稅但依然得唔到較好的福利..

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原帖由 iris5a 於 11-11-11 09:19 發表
我之前都登過報尋你



Yes, I know and I have replied you.  Did you notice?

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原帖由 傻太 於 11-11-11 12:29 發表


"all of them have their own fans so I think they won't be too concerned with any drop of interests"

i dont agree entirely as part of the interests is because of the Voucher...Say, Creative (Kln Ton ...


argh....  are you picking on my English?  

what I said was ALL these kindergartens have their own fans so THOSE parents will support them anyway.  I didn't say ALL parents will support them wor.  Of course not everyone will have to agree with that.

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原帖由 ting-ma 於 11-11-10 23:06 發表
I would like to ask if anybody know the curriculum for kinder have voucher & w/out voucher w/ big difference??? I am very confuse about this point & struggling whether choose voucher or non-voucher on ...


Actually, the curriculum itself is independent of whether the kindergartens choose to accept voucher or not.  What we know for sure is for the majority of kindergartens which accept vouchers, they are under more restrictions as suggested by the EDB and there are more administration works to do in order to comply with the requirement.  For those kindergartens which don't receive vouchers, they would have more freedom on their curriculum design only.

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原帖由 iantsang 於 11-11-11 12:17 發表


haha, I think you are right that the kindergartens should know.  But frankly all of them have their own fans so I think they won't be too concerned with any drop of interests.

At the end, what I wa ...


"all of them have their own fans so I think they won't be too concerned with any drop of interests"

i dont agree entirely as part of the interests is because of the Voucher...Say, Creative (Kln Tong), after the parents knowing they have jumped off the boat which notify them after interview, some said the school waste their time to interview...(of coz not ALL the parents, but should means part of the interests)

唔係撩交哎, just my point of view...

anyway, how u choose btw TT(Int'l) & LH??

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原帖由 LittlePanda101 於 11-11-10 22:53 發表
No more for SKH (Mt Butler) too.  


Thanks for the info.

Yes I called to ask this morning too and they confirmed.

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原帖由 TOKIN 於 11-11-10 18:03 發表
As Ling Liang headmistress said before, she actually sent request to the Education Secretary for increasing the subsidiary amount, in front of our parents during K3 graduation performance.

She explai ...


Yes, it is a pity that quite a number of kindergartens would have to deal with such amount of financial pressure under the current scheme.  It is a difficult decision I am sure.

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原帖由 傻太 於 11-11-10 17:16 發表


"parents should not expect a kindergarten not joining the voucher scheme can translated into a more advanced curriculum" - ummmmmmmmm, but if the schools not stregthen their P1 allocation which is  ...


haha, I think you are right that the kindergartens should know.  But frankly all of them have their own fans so I think they won't be too concerned with any drop of interests.

At the end, what I want is to remind not to make such assumptions pee-maturely.  Will need to wait for more information to be announced.

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跳船嘅學校因營運資金問題,如果學費唔係加得多,因通賬問題我諗唔會有太大改變,只不過而家係用家自付。
咁係咪唔跳船嘅學校為左生存而會縮減成本呢?老師都係打工,你冇可能減人工,唔加、加少啲又轉校,教材年年加價,咁會係減乜呢?又點可以保持教育質素?
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