香港教育真的那麼差？

雙儿

Just came back from a holiday in Seoul with my family and read some PMs. They somehow reminded me of an article in Newsweek I read on my outbound flight. It was about PISA which was also covered by some before (stccmc?). Let me recap the top 5 in PISA 2009 survey:

	Reading	Maths	Science
1	Shanghai	Shanghai	Shanghai
2	Korea	Singapore	Finland
3	Finland	Hong Kong	Hong Kong
4	Hong Kong	Korea	Singapore
5	Singapore	Taipei	Japan

Even discounting the city vs country factor, Hong Kong’s numbers should still look quite decent, at least according to the Newsweek article. In the 2011 maths proficiency survey, the US brainiest state, Massachusetts, still trails far behind Hong Kong. Then comes the question: What went wrong? PISA or our own perception of Hong Kong’s education system and policies?

[ 本帖最後由 雙儿 於 11-9-16 14:23 編輯 ]

kyliema2006

這個設計不是他原創的，鬧雙胞胎又或者是抄襲的。

yuengooluk

原帖由 NKpa 於 11-10-10 15:48 發表
I'm afraid one or two examples of successful students cannot give a true picture of overall students.

fully agree.

NKpa

I'm afraid one or two examples of successful students cannot give a true picture of overall students.

yuengooluk

芬蘭教育基本上是公認為世上數一數二的.很多地方的教育官員學者都去考察,包括我們的孫公.芬蘭從七十年代開始進行教改,並成功了.我們也有教改,可是......

cow

The logo featuring Steve Jobs's silhouette incorporated into the bite of a Apple logo created by Jonathan Mak, a student at the Polytechnic University, shows HK's education is not so bad.

cow

原帖由 NKpa 於 11-10-7 15:33 發表
《泰晤士報》世界大學排行榜前200名大學數目最多的國家或地區依次為：美國、英國、荷蘭、德國、加拿大、瑞士、澳大利亞、日本、瑞典、法國、中國香港、韓國、中國、比利時、丹麥、新加坡、愛爾蘭、以色列、挪威、芬蘭 ...

世界大學排行榜前200位，香港有一半大學上榜，應是世界第一。

NKpa

The high reading ability in HK may (not sure) refer to Chinese reading, not English reading,...

NKpa

Let's look at the appendix II chart from the report: Relationship between student peformance in reading and ESCS (Index of Economic, Social and Cultural Status) in Twelve Countries/Regions

ESCS is derived from the 3 variables related to family background: highest parental education, occupation and number of home possessions.

All the slopes are upward. Shanghai line is all the way above the other countries/regions, from the poorest to the richest. HK comes to the second for the ESCS below zero, but its slope is among the flattest, ie the family background impact to the student performance is among the least.

In other words, family background is a highly positive correlated factors to the student reading performance. HK has enjoyed a high and relatively even level of student reading performance across the spectrum of social classes.

NKpa

《泰晤士報》世界大學排行榜前200名大學數目最多的國家或地區依次為：美國、英國、荷蘭、德國、加拿大、瑞士、澳大利亞、日本、瑞典、法國、中國香港、韓國、中國、比利時、丹麥、新加坡、愛爾蘭、以色列、挪威、芬蘭。

http://big5.xinhuanet.com/gate/b ... /07/c_122124236.htm

So Finland is good at secondary school education only?

cherubic

Are all students in HK take part in PISA assessment?

童夢2011

我覺得香港教育不是產出差，而是教學方式，學校制度差。

原帖由 雙儿 於 11-9-14 22:02 發表
Just came back from a holiday in Seoul with my family and read some PMs. They somehow reminded me of an article in Newsweek I read on my outbound flight. It was about PISA which was also covered by so ...

mattsmum

硬件（學歷）也許差不多，軟件（工作經驗、職業道德感的培養）要看在那出身。畢業就回去本地的一樣學不到。