victoria shanghai academy

MPSVIC

Just wondering if there is anyone here whose kids are taking victoria shanghai academy at all.  What do u think of that 'school' in terms of the school fees increment lately?  To be honest, it is way more expensive than 英基............

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slamai

I find it totally a waste of my time to continue discussion with such an unworthy personality and so I'm leaving this topic for good!

[ 本帖最後由 slamai 於 11-9-28 21:03 編輯 ]

MPSVIC

Hahaha, I feel like talking to some naive 'Lady' who always tries to prove she is so good at this issue just like she tells everyone there is water in Saturn while she has never been there.  Hahaha, Worst of all, when ppl tried to retort her, she go
es nuts and keeps telling ppl she is so rite.  But let me repeat, she has never been there.... so, good nite.  Tell me more about other planets as well if u have so much logic....Mrs. Salami!!!  gosh!

原帖由 slamai 於 11-9-23 08:59 發表
Not only your logic but also your memory fails you as I've stated before what kind of stakeholder I am and there is no need for me to repeat it again. With your sense of logic and attitude in discussi ...

mattsmum

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slamai

Not only your logic but also your memory fails you as I've stated before what kind of stakeholder I am and there is no need for me to repeat it again. With your sense of logic and attitude in discussion, I hope you have some basic knowledge on statistics before you ventured to carry out your 'research' and generalise the 'results'. The workload of IB DP is well recognised. Just take a causal look at a few links below:

IB has a huge workload and I am up late every night trying to finish homework

substantial workload require a great deal of commitment, organization, and initiative

About a quarter of IBDP graduates considered that the workload was “excessive, ...

Of course, how much time a student needs to take to finish his/her work varies across individuals.

原帖由 MPSVIC 於 11-9-23 14:50 發表
I can utterly understand y u cannot comprehend the ultimate meaning of my post which is of course not only due to your literacy but wisdom.  When I am saying workload of other schools, I have done my  ...

MPSVIC

I can utterly understand y u cannot comprehend the ultimate meaning of my post which is of course not only due to your literacy but wisdom.  When I am saying workload of other schools, I have done my research to compare other different schools prior to saying those.  U got me so far?  If you do not have any  kids taking VSA, I humbly suggest you not to comment others' criticism outta your plain imagination which I am sorry to say - nonsense.  Let me ask u how much you can illustrate if you are such an outsider while my kid 'introduces' me things what happens in school from time to time.  It is not just my kid's opinions but his peers' also.  I suggest u to do more research first rather than saying something from your so called logic!  Thank you.  U should be able to understand what I am saying this time.

原帖由 slamai 於 11-9-22 06:24 發表
I hope your mind is clear enough to realise that I was responding to your post below:

"well, sounds like you dun seem to notice how much workload your kid has or he/she does not care about working on ...

slamai

I hope your mind is clear enough to realise that I was responding to your post below:

"well, sounds like you dun seem to notice how much workload your kid has or he/she does not care about working on it at all.  I mean if you do, u should be able to notice how much time he/she needs to spend every day on his desk.  What you said about redundancy has been obsolete for those locals somehow.  I noticed it cos I have another kid studying at a prestigious school in Hong Kong and workload there is very reasonable and variety of activities are given to kids in order to let them learn and being creative at the same time.  Homework is never heavy which is what the school tries to do all the time, and kids there r so happy there!  Does VSA provide the same thing?  I honestly suggest you to pay more attention to your kid esp on his workload and health.  I understand u may be busy at work and that's probably y u miss a lot and can only tell me based on theory.  Good luck!"

Yes, I can't comprehend why you can't comprehend my last post though that has nothing to do with my literacy! It seems that you have a poor attitude in responding to others who may have different opinion from yours.  You also have a habit of generalising some individual cases without good reasons, e.g. to quote the "prestigious school" of your other kid and deduce that the repetitive homework of many typical local schools is not redundant. Indeed I have difficulty in comprehending your posts from the perspective of logic.

MPSVIC

I hope ur literate enough to comprehend what I have been writing.  I have friends whose kids are also taking IBDP at international schools, but they do not have as much workload as my kid does.  They learn things and are happy.  Do u actually not understand I have been comparing with the equivalent level?

原帖由 slamai 於 11-9-16 10:17 發表
I wonder if you are in fact comparing the workload of a primary student to that of a DP student in your post.  The workload comes from IB DP rather than VSA!

MPSVIC

Thank you so much for your positive feedback and I do appreciate that.  Unfortunately, from wat my kid told me, it was useless to talk to that unproductive principal as many of them did that before and it turned out everything remained the same. haha... this school is helpless as far as many students go.  Teachers are not teaching with their hearts and they dun care much if the students actually learnt something or not... pathetic!

原帖由 newdaddy 於 11-9-16 08:32 發表
It seems that you are frustrated and disappointed with VSA and feel quite helpless with the management, heavy workload, the difficulty in transferring to another school and the coming IB exam.

Your k ...

slamai

I wonder if you are in fact comparing the workload of a primary student to that of a DP student in your post.  The workload comes from IB DP rather than VSA!

原帖由 MPSVIC 於 11-9-15 09:36 發表
well, sounds like you dun seem to notice how much workload your kid has or he/she does not care about working on it at all.  I mean if you do, u should be able to notice how much time he/she needs to  ...

newdaddy

It seems that you are frustrated and disappointed with VSA and feel quite helpless with the management, heavy workload, the difficulty in transferring to another school and the coming IB exam.

Your kid only has two years to go and he should be around 18 years old. What's his opinion? I mean what does he think may help him if he stays in VSA?
Talk to the principal again about your difficulties. You have paid quite a lot and this is the time to get some more help from the principal.

It's difficult situation for you as a parent and for your kid as well. However, as parents, we need to set a good example to our kids on how to think positively and cope with challenges because apart from exams and schools , there are bound to be lots of challenges ahead e.g. relationship problem, job-related problems, financial , health problems etc.
Do not lose heart now in this battle!! Go for it!

I wish you and your kid good luck with your endeavor!

MPSVIC

Then y dun we increase salary of those IB teachers 1000% and make even equivalent to the one of university professor?  Does it sound fair to you?  To me, education quality is not something we measure in nominal value.  If your good, ur worthy the pay.  But if this essential requirement of being a teacher is not able to be accomplished, I suggest he/she should go.  This is a very simple example to you if u understand what I have been saying.  We pay this much but quality of teacher is way off from wat we expect after the increase of fee.  Let me ask u, if you go to buy a mercedes for $2mil, do u expect it runs like a fiat?  That's the point and I hope u see how serious it can affect kids' education in the long run rather than considering inflation which I have already taken into account.
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原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-9-15 14:27 發表
這幾年多了好多IB學校，人人都要請IB老師。如果我是老師會把頭放出去給人獵。通賬又高，港元還跟美元貶值不少，如何留著IB老師？

MPSVIC

To be very honest to you, it is not just my kid who feel helpless when it comes to issues like teaching quality, workload (but this year, so far at least, is not as worse as last year's cos the PP last year is very demanding to a point they all need to take care of ordinary schoolwork as well as making sure periodic deadlines of this particular project is met. ) Yes, there is no way out those kids as far as my kid told me.  Most of his classmates already left abroad.  Comments from them is 早走早著！This tells parents how disappointed students are at VSA.  My kid is very good at the grades but it is just not fair when he tries to learn, tries to grasp as much as he can, teachers are being lazy and irresponsible regardless the unreasonable increase of school fee for the years to come...... I appreciate for your concern and care, I do!  Have a good life.

原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-9-15 14:27 發表
這幾年多了好多IB學校，人人都要請IB老師。如果我是老師會把頭放出去給人獵。通賬又高，港元還跟美元貶值不少，如何留著IB老師？

mattsmum

這幾年多了好多IB學校，人人都要請IB老師。如果我是老師會把頭放出去給人獵。通賬又高，港元還跟美元貶值不少，如何留著IB老師？

poonseelai

原帖由 MPSVIC 於 11-9-15 09:48 發表
Agree no more.  But wat I am trying to emphazie is this school fee hike in this year, I mean over 40% increase of staff salary comes outta school fee increment.  Staff qualify has never been this wors ...

MPSVIC

I note that you are unhappy about the school in a number of ways, you think it will be difficult for your kid to move to other schools after having spent such a long time at the school and you believe that management is not going to listen & improve.  So, what would be your next move, in particular, your kid is now in the last 2 years of secondary school preparing for entrance to universities?  I'm not sure whether your kid is aware of your unhappiness about the school, and if he/she does, will this affect his/her study in a negative way.  

There is a Chinese saying: 山不轉路轉,路不轉人轉,人不轉心轉.  In your opinion, is there any good thing that VSA can provide to your kid in the coming 2 years? Hope you will try to make best use of the good things to help your kid.

MPSVIC

Agree no more.  But wat I am trying to emphazie is this school fee hike in this year, I mean over 40% increase of staff salary comes outta school fee increment.  Staff qualify has never been this worse.  Management is lousy and chaotic.  A lot of school works of students look productive but u can hardly find it is so.  Students do research works in these days basically from internet, and frankly it is a process of cut and paste.  Do students really learn much from this mode of learning?  Esp when they need to meet deadline of handing in assignments, do they care or know what they are doing?  I strongly doutbt it.  Dun u? The worst thing I heard is some teachers practically do not teach much and not very care if students understand or not.  Students came to him, but that will only worsen off. haha!   Terrible school!

原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-9-11 03:24 發表
What you say is absolutely right. Unfortunately, this is not the ibdp as I heard from other IS.
Conversation:
First year ibdp:
sept oct-  why i take ibdp? It is a lot of hard work

Christmas- it is  ...

MPSVIC

well, sounds like you dun seem to notice how much workload your kid has or he/she does not care about working on it at all.  I mean if you do, u should be able to notice how much time he/she needs to spend every day on his desk.  What you said about redundancy has been obsolete for those locals somehow.  I noticed it cos I have another kid studying at a prestigious school in Hong Kong and workload there is very reasonable and variety of activities are given to kids in order to let them learn and being creative at the same time.  Homework is never heavy which is what the school tries to do all the time, and kids there r so happy there!  Does VSA provide the same thing?  I honestly suggest you to pay more attention to your kid esp on his workload and health.  I understand u may be busy at work and that's probably y u miss a lot and can only tell me based on theory.  Good luck!

原帖由 slamai 於 11-9-14 09:03 發表
A lot of homework from local schools can be considered to be redundant because of repetitiveness.  I don't think this is the case of VSA.

slamai

I'm a 2nd year DP parent!

原帖由 MPSVIC 於 11-9-9 23:29 發表
Sounds like you are working at VSA to me.  About the deficit, I believe it is the overall deficit and I am not sure what Khoong was referring when she stated on he letter to parents requesting for sch ...

slamai

Can't agree more.

原帖由 mattsmum 於 11-9-10 15:36 發表
430 to 11.? This is a short period. Those working on igcse take even a longer periods. DP is never an easy course.