RHS玫瑰崗, Victoria(Kornhill) and KCS蘇浙

Jiyee

Hi all,
My daughter is a "BIG" B(was born in Feb 08), she has been accepted by RHS and Kornhill Victoria, yesterday was also interviewed by KCS.

After lots of research, I've decided to let her go to RHS because of:
1.Spacious environment
2.Balance in the curriculum (2 days in English, 2 days in Putonghua and 1 day in Cantonese)
3.Primary section is also quite good.

However, my wife insists that RHS is quite far away, she is worried of the daily distance of school bus, and so she prefers to enroll her into Victoria or KCS since they both are quite near -- we live in Kornhill.

I am very confused at the moment, any advices? Please....many thanks.
If possible, please also try to type your opinions in English, since my wife cannot read much about Chinese, my apologies and many thanks again!

[ 本帖最後由 Jiyee 於 10-12-12 11:19 編輯 ]

stseng

mchk1228
You need to be objective when assessing the effectiveness of teaching PTH and good behaviour of the current kindergarten.  Remember - each kid is unique and some of them pick up language faster or slower than the others.  They also have different characters that modify how they behave.  Also, you need to ask yourself whether your expectation is too high or not as this may affect your judgment on the current kindergarten.  I say this because you may be disappointed again after changing school and complain that KCS is not effective in training your kid up to your expected standard.  There is no guarantee that you will be satisfy with the result after changing school as so many factors are affecting a child's learning - each of them is so unique.  Your own expectation is also an important factor to determine whether you are satisfied with the result.

I would recommend you to change to KCS for even one year (i.e. only K3) only if:
1.  you are really unhappy with the current kindergarten and very sure that your kid is not suitable to be in that kindergarten.
2.  you are willing to take the risk that KCS may not offer your kid a P1 place after finishing K3.
3.  you are willing to accept the fact - there is no guarantee that you will be happy with your kid's progress in PTH / behaviour after attending KCS as she has to get used to a new and very different environment where everyone in her class is speaking PTH (no one speaks Cantonese).  She may be nervious and need some time to adapt to it.  (having said that, i am very confident with KCS's PTH environment, teaching quality and peer groups which are all beneficial to a kid's learning PTH and good behaviour).  

My view may be subjective, but I hope this helps you to make a wise decision.

原帖由 mchk1228 於 11-1-13 15:01 發表
Thank you stsenq.

Yes, that's the point I am struggling and that is why i don't know whether to go for KC kinder or not. Her current kinder is apparently not the type i want after the facts i realis ...

[ 本帖最後由 stseng 於 11-1-13 21:52 編輯 ]

Sorb

If you target KCS primary, one point maybe worth of your attention.  KCS primary will interview the KCS K3 student in late September, so, that means your kid will be interviewed in one month after admisison to K3.  How likely you think your kid can win those old K3 students for a place in KCS primary.

If you are not targeting KCS, is it good for a kid to change school in K3 and then change school in P1?

原帖由 stseng 於 11-1-13 13:50 發表
To master a language is a long term task.  For this reason, what's the point of only attending K3 at KCS Kindergarten without a target to strike for a P1 place at KCS Primary School?  If you do not in ...

stseng

To master a language is a long term task.  For this reason, what's the point of only attending K3 at KCS Kindergarten without a target to strike for a P1 place at KCS Primary School?  If you do not intend your kid to attend KCS Primary School, it would be a waste of effort.  Even if you get a K3 place at KCS, it does not guarantee a P1 place for you due to keen competition.  At K3 level, KCS has classes running from A to L, but at P1, they only have four whole-day classes.  As such, please carefully decide your strategy before your move.

[ 本帖最後由 stseng 於 11-1-13 13:51 編輯 ]

stseng

i heard that RHS primary section is no longer reputable nowaday.  Hence, I believe that the academic training at KCS primiary school would be better than RHS primary school.  For this reason, if you live in Kornhill and target to go to a better primary school after KG, then KCS would be preferable.  KCS primary school has preference in accepting KCS KG students.
PTH training at KCS is not the same as those one or two days PTH day per week , the students at KCS use PTH as the primary medium of communication on a daily basis.  They study happily at KCS and loves the school and teachers.  Its location is more convenient for you to attend his activities at school.

Sorb

Well, KCS KG does not publize its P1 allocation result publicley.  So, cannot give you the official figures.  

Based on the observation I have so far, the parents of KCS are behaving just like those parents from normal KGs. Some will also apply those good DSS and private primary schools for their kids in addition to KCS p1.  Some will join the lucky draw games too as KCS primary allows the children to do so.

For the kids that I know, they had offer from the following DSS/private schools: St Paul Co-ed, St Paul Boys, DBS, St Stephen College, 優才, HKUGPS, Evangel, True Light, Good Hope, etc. So, quite diversified, no particular trend.

By the way, I cannot give you advice re what school to choose for your kid as I am having the same headache too. Hope other more experienced parents can give you insight in this regard.  Sorry!

原帖由 mchk1228 於 11-1-7 10:16 發表
Hi Sorb,

from your previous reply, so what were the choices of Primary school of the KC kinder's parents after their kids completed K3 if didn't want to stay in KC for P1 or not accepted by KC P1?

M ...

Jiyee

Thanks a lot, mchk1228, Iyhv, Sorb, littlejc, Nataliebaby, and everyone!
You are welcome also, Doremi08!

Even though KCS is not a "thru train", I still think it is worthwhile putting our children there -- applications and interviews can often be headache for parents, I understand, though.

PTH will definitely be another world language in very near future, and to a certain extent, it already is!

I believe that most of your children do have more options than mine -- I don't want to raise mine up as a Korean child, nor do I want to raise her up as a completely local kid!

She has the advantage of learning Korean, English, PTH and Cantonese since very young -- this is her advantage and also complication!

So that is why I have to select schools for her very carefully -- normally mothers would join discussions here, but I am a father and hopefully my wife will take over from me soon...  

From my experience and observation, it will make a significant difference if students can study Chinese more for the first 2 or 3 years in primary, once the foundation is built up, it will be more easier for them to pick up any other language in future, no matter it is English or Spanish, whatever...

I am sure that KCIS is also good, but I really want to let my little one try out the local stream first, without giving up her English of course. In this sense, RHS and KCS will be better for my educational plan.

After knowing the interview result of KCS next month and making the final decision, I will create another discussion forum to gather some more parents to support each other.

Wish you all Merry Xmas and a fruitful new year, all the best, fingers crossed!

[ 本帖最後由 Jiyee 於 10-12-21 00:45 編輯 ]

NatalieBaby

My daughter is studying at RHS PN.  She loves the school so much that she always pretends having the class at home!  The cirruculum is very balanced, and the school is well-managed with caring and patient teaching staff.  

Nonethess in your case since you plan to send you kid to IS eventually, will you consider KCIS (the international stream of KCS)?

[ 本帖最後由 NatalieBaby 於 10-12-20 22:44 編輯 ]

littlejc

原帖由 Jiyee 於 10-12-17 00:13 發表
Many thanks for your info, bobbb123, Sorb, Doremi08 and all!

Due to my daughter's background, I've only applied 3 schools for her -- RHS, Vict and KCS.

I am a native speaker of PTH, however, I need  ...

My kid is studying at RHS (PN & now K1).  I gone through the same struggling process as you last year.   
Finally I selected to let my kid to stay at RHS.   Main reason is the envir and class size.  Class size is ~28 kids per class with 2-3 teachers.  Also, seems to have a well balance of language exposure - 2 days Eng & 2 days PTH with native teacher.  
In term of homework, kids have homework in K1 (3 times per week), colouring and drawing lines, 1-2 pages at a time.   No real pressure in K1.  Also, they have extra activities organised on Sat which is optional  (with extra fees, price is reasonable)
If u want a very strong PTH, I beleive KCS is more suitable.  But if u want to know more Cantonese and a very spacious & gd envir (sizeable indoor and outdoor playground & sandpool), seems RHS is better.  
In term of travelling time, I also live in eastern district.  Although the pick up time seems early ~(8:05-8:10),  it actually takes ~25 mins to get to school,  not too bad.  They will have assembly in cover playground before they back to classroom.  
I understand that RHS has Pearson Test of English in K2, any parents at RHS can share what it's about and whether is higher level than K2 Eng?

Sorb

KCS KG and primary are not "through-train" school.  There are more than 400 students in K3, but only around 120 seats in P1. All KCS K3 students have to be interviewed now to have an offer from KCS primary.  I did learn cases of failure this year.  
Secondly, KCS primary and secondary school are not linked schools, they are just schools under the same sponsoring body only.....so, bear the name KCS.    I trust all parents sending their kids to KCS primary will not target to send their kids to KCS secondary.  So, never mistaken KCS is through-train from KG to secondary.  
If you want to know its 2010 P6 allocation result to secondary 1, you can refer to this link.  GIPW has wrtiten some secondary school names there.
http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2258577&extra=&page=2

原帖由 lyhv 於 10-12-17 14:46 發表


just like RHS, KCS secondary school (north point cloudview road campus) is not a very good school when i was a teenage, that is my personal opinion.  normally most parents are just targeting to thes ...

lyhv

原帖由 mchk1228 於 10-12-17 11:36 發表
Hi all,

I am new here & like to join in to your discussion & sharing.

I have a Aug 07 daughter & want to know more info about KCS's kinder, primary & secondary, can anyone share more in-depth about ...

just like RHS, KCS secondary school (north point cloudview road campus) is not a very good school when i was a teenage, that is my personal opinion.  normally most parents are just targeting to these two schools' kindergarten and primary school section.

DoReMi2008

Thanks a lots Jiyee