好學校? 出名學校? 政府都有"高校"!

tpmak

我想每間學校, 係我地有冇遇到好老師.
我剛完成網上學堂,
好學校不如好老師,
我都幫個女考了幾間學校.
最後我都是選了interview 時比我最舒服感覺的學校.

其中一間真係極品, 全程都好hard feeling.
1)


表面比小朋友係playground 玩, 其實老師人釘人一邊好似核數, 因為掛住評估, 未見到有咩愛心同小朋友先溝通. 過程個女玩滑梯時, 跌倒, 老師在旁都冇反應, 反而另一位媽媽協助. 個女哭, 佢都仲係mark 分.
2)


進進入一 間房, 有幾件玩具, 我想個個都係玩, 層層疊疊,
又有兩個冇笑容的評分官, 係度mark.
3)


進入另一間房, 有半個人高的屏封檔住, 內裹有兩個機械式考官係入面, 父母只可以坐在同房另一位置遠觀, 小朋友只有兩歲, 分離是可以明白, 但考官唔接受. 一遇到小朋友cry, 就請父母拖小朋友暫時離開考室, 不過要係房外椅子區, 有位好似王夏Wei 的女士叫我一定要坐係該椅上. 考埋家長定力?


4)
由於當天接觸到的老師都係唔笑, 又要考咁多不變的題目, 我只聽到好多小朋友哭.

我問其中一位考官, 小朋友只有2歲, 是否一定要不哭才可設合佢地要求, 老師說: 是! 因為我旁邊有好多小朋友cry, 我就對考官說: 你們有否想過小朋友哭的原因? Interview 的目的 和要求貴校是什麼?考官知我挑戰佢, 好nervous 回答: 我地每年都有好多學生做到?

等了30分鐘, 個女都唔肯入有屏封的考室, 旁邊聽到有位主住同家長講的內容, 佢同家長講, 你的小朋友唔得…, 哭, 好難入學, 不如你下年再考…….


  心想, 學校要求, 唔係我的cake.

   剛考校長經過, 我同校長講個女今天到來interview, 因為之前入房哭, 比老師馬上要拖出來, 叫我地等, 由早上9:30 進校interview, 直至當時, 已2小時. 麻煩校長取消我地申請. 突然有個人閃來, 是之前門口考官, 佢好緊張, 可能以為我係complaine, 佢馬上同講, 你同個女一齊入去. 拉拉推推入了房, 入面環境都係氣氛嚴肅, 另一位小`朋友cry, 我只見老師唔理佢cry, 一味問佢, 當時該小朋友媽媽很狼狽, 因為小朋友已經c ry, 老師仲要要佢答問題.
小朋友更是一發不可收拾, 我見到老師就black face. 跟住再有似王夏wei 的人進內. 氣氛就更…….

再經過父母interview, 考官的問題,
小朋友cry, 昨天好夜訓? (冇笑容)?
好似爸爸冇出聲, 爸爸平日好忙, 係咪冇咩時間同個女溝通? (老公有d打個突!)
根據記錄, 你個女剛才係playground cry, 因為打人? 當時老師在場, 不過掛住比分, 黑白不分, 係個女比另一位小朋友不小心推倒, 幸好有位媽媽及時扶到佢.
好多問題都係由negative 方向問起 .

老公最後同老師講, 經過今天的interview, 一共是3小時15分, 令我地好明白貴校要求, 亦好清楚貴校教者對分數的重要性, 我地唔會考慮貴校. 謝謝.
我們就離開學校.

出奇地, 學校及後都收我個女, 不過我地唔會考慮該校.

我們需要的不是出名的學校, 而是一間合適我地及小女的幼稚園.

大家interview 時, 有冇留意其他小朋友的反應, 老師的處理? 所考的型式種種, 其實interview 亦是學校比我地了解佢地多d的機會.


[ 本帖最後由 tpmak 於 10-5-18 17:12 編輯 ]

wai406

原帖由 wai406 於 10-5-20 12:50 發表
2011-2012 K1 祟真幼稚園入學程序已出了, 大家可在學校網址找到:

http://www.ttpskg.edu.hk/it-scho ... hp?menuid=4&refid=4

SORRY, 出錯POST

wai406

2011-2012 K1 祟真幼稚園入學程序已出了, 大家可在學校網址找到:

http://www.ttpskg.edu.hk/it-scho ... hp?menuid=4&refid=4

[ 本帖最後由 wai406 於 10-5-20 12:54 編輯 ]

tpmak

每天都係MTR見到冇品的人。希望有品文化風氣會好ｄ

原帖由 iantsang 於 10-5-19 13:04 發表
事實社會現在注重知識多過品德的風氣盛  

tpmak

大女經過小一的interview, 發覺原來令學校有壓, 家長的風氣係好大原因.  學校功課唔深, 家長又怕慢過人. 我地作為家長真係要提提自己. 都要比空間學校, 唔好成日好易就
  投訴，　

原帖由 iantsang 於 10-5-19 16:59 發表
haha, sure!  That's why I said earlier I thought everyone would do so (having talked to so many people in the field).  I just take it for granted that most educators would do things only to the benefi ...

tpmak

好好的意見.

原帖由 oooray 於 10-5-19 17:04 發表

Yes, I do recommend parents visiting the schools and chat to teachers/principals (open day will be a good chance) whether they are satified with the school before making a final decision for their ch ...

tpmak

我希望幫個女搵間合的學校, 接觸過校長, 老師, 最後選了一間名氣不多, 但令我放心的幼稚園比個女.

希望個女開心學習

oooray

原帖由 iantsang 於 10-5-19 16:59 發表
haha, sure!  That's why I said I earlier I thought everyone would do so (having talked to so many people in the field).  I just take it for granted that most educators would do things only to the bene ...

Yes, I do recommend parents visiting the schools and chat to teachers/principals (open day will be a good chance) whether they are satified with the school before making a final decision for their children.
Own feelings is more worthwhile than simply asking someone "A or B is better".
Enjoy!

iantsang

haha, sure!  That's why I said earlier I thought everyone would do so (having talked to so many people in the field).  I just take it for granted that most educators would do things only to the benefits of the organization, in expense of the children.

The reason I share it is to tell parents there are still kind-hearted people who are dedicated to educate our kids.  And instead of chasing famous ones or those with good academic results, we need to let the children learn from people who are sincerely care about them, just like their parents.

Ian

原帖由 oooray 於 10-5-19 16:53 發表

hor hor...
Of course, I believe there are many enthusiastic people dedicating in education as their career, not a job but i cannot stop thinking of the dark side as it is human nature and those thing ...

[ 本帖最後由 iantsang 於 10-5-19 17:02 編輯 ]

oooray

原帖由 iantsang 於 10-5-19 16:41 發表
Hi oooray,

Don't be so skeptical , there are nice people in this world!  hehe

It was a private conversation and may be I didn't phrase it well (since need to omit many details) but it  ...

hor hor...
Of course, I believe there are many enthusiastic people dedicating in education as their career, not a job but i cannot stop thinking of the dark side as it is human nature and those things do exist.
Anyway, appreciate your sharing.

poon小朋友

d 學校覺得現今社會,所有小朋友全部都係"神童bb"

iantsang

Hi oooray,

Don't be so skeptical , there are nice people in this world!  hehe

It was a private conversation and may be I didn't phrase it well (since need to omit many details) but it was sincerely said.  Personally I need to deal with many educators through my various volunteer works so I know there are a lot of variations (from good to bad).  Be positive!  

Ian

原帖由 oooray 於 10-5-19 16:31 發表

Hi Ian, Thanks for your sharing.
I wonder in which cirumstances the kindergarten management shared you these information. Personally, I feel it is sort of bureaucratic tone; 100% politically correct. ...

[ 本帖最後由 iantsang 於 10-5-19 16:44 編輯 ]

oooray

原帖由 iantsang 於 10-5-19 16:10 發表
Just to share a bit more about kindergarten education.

Actually I had a chance to chat with the management of a kindergarten once.  I always thought it makes sense for kindergartens to simply rule ou ...

Hi Ian, Thanks for your sharing.
I wonder in which cirumstances the kindergarten management shared you these information. Personally, I feel it is sort of bureaucratic tone; 100% politically correct.

iantsang

Just to share a bit more about kindergarten education.

Actually I had a chance to chat with the management of a kindergarten once.  I always thought it makes sense for kindergartens to simply rule out some of the children like crying or other mis-behaviour during interview, as it would be easier for them with so many kids to interview.  However, I was very surprised to the level of care the person I talked to have displayed.  She told me they would try to comfort the kids and settle him/her down first as it is normal for a child to feel uncomfortable in unfamiliar place.  So, the teachers should give them a second chance to have the interview as they calm down.  I just feel myself so small in front of them!  Of course, whether all teachers can do it fairly is another issue, hehe.  But this is what education should be, not just to look for the best talented?

Ian

原帖由 Charlotte_mom 於 10-5-19 14:09 發表
唔天真! 我絕對讚成你
老師作為一個幼兒教育者, 唔係應該認識同體諒, 學校對小朋友係一個陌生地方, 老師係陌生人, 小朋友都有情緒變化, 心驚驚咁又點可能發揮到水準?
如果小朋友俾老師嚇親, 發揮唔到, 學校唔收, 咪 ...

Charlotte_mom

唔天真! 我絕對讚成你
老師作為一個幼兒教育者, 唔係應該認識同體諒, 學校對小朋友係一個陌生地方, 老師係陌生人, 小朋友都有情緒變化, 心驚驚咁又點可能發揮到水準?
如果小朋友俾老師嚇親, 發揮唔到, 學校唔收, 咪又係學校走寶! 起碼都俾d耐性等小朋友心情輕鬆咁interview至係公平做法

原帖由 tpmak 於 10-5-19 12:40 PM 發表
可能我有d 天真, 以我來說作為幼稚園工作者對象是幼兒, 面部, 聲線都係合幼兒.
就算interview 都係好小年紀的小朋友, Body language 真係令小朋友有很大反應, 明白interview要見好多人, 工作忙, 就簡口要對好多人,  ...

oooray

原帖由 iantsang 於 10-5-19 13:04 發表
事實社會現在注重知識多過品德的風氣盛  

學校要收最好o既學生；(唔使點教-最好家長響出面俾錢補習學晒十八般武藝)，畢業時派位派得好然後自然吸引更多學生報名；有更多學生報名更容易挑選更好o既學生。
反之，收唔到最好學生，派位派得唔好，冇人讀，執笠/殺校...
俾你做校長你會唔會有教無類?隨時學校未被殺；校董會已經殺左你。

twinsstar

And also ... Interview is just a game. While we;re judging the teachers of a school w/n a few minutes time, the teachers are doing the same to our kids....

THis is interview ...

原帖由 oooray 於 10-5-19 09:47 發表
好欣賞大家o既分享...
但係睇開d啦!
1個小朋友in 5分鐘，1個鐘in12個，一日6個鐘= 5x12x6=360個小朋友+家長；如果老師對住個個都笑騎騎，只有以下幾個可能:
1.
佢好好演技；
2.
佢愛心爆棚；
3.
佢EQ奇高；
4.
佢識得你。
個人覺得 ...

[ 本帖最後由 twinsstar 於 10-5-19 14:10 編輯 ]

candykiki123

我朋友個仔兩年前去IN九龍塘某間名幼稚園K1, 個先生問我朋友個仔 "小朋友, 如果你有十萬蚊你會做D咩 ?? " 我個朋友當時呆左... , 結果個小朋友當然唔識答, 亦無收到我朋友個仔..

咁既先生,真係第一次見

iantsang

事實社會現在注重知識多過品德的風氣盛 <== agree and hope it won't get even worse.  Unfortunately I do understand it is hard to resist, but seeing the negative effects of this young generation coming into workforce now.  All these smart kids but can't control their emotion, no respect to others, no desire to work hard, and always complain....  what will this lead to?

原帖由 tpmak 於 10-5-19 12:45 發表
唔睇開都唔得, 事實社會現在注重知識多過品德的風氣盛.

oooray

原帖由 tpmak 於 10-5-19 12:50 發表
我都有同感. 唔好唔好之後冇法就好.   

要家長放棄有名氣但冇愛心o既學校；兩難。
但如果家長感覺都唔好；小朋友點會讀得開心?