急:聖類斯被降為中中了!還應該選擇她嗎?

fishman10hk

小兒明年將入讀聖類斯小學P1, 原本是希望升中時有直屬英中做Backup, 但現在中學被降呢為中中了, 
(1) 這對我小兒影響大嗎? 
(2) 小學部的英文水平會否受到影響?
(3) 中學部的Banding會否由現時Band2 頭下降? 

很心急想聽聽大家的意見.

iantsang

May I know how is your feeling about the forum?

The video of the whole forum will be uploaded to the internet later next week.

Here's the interview with [size=150%]黎耀祥:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-FD3zckvFg               

原帖由 fishman10hk 於 10-1-9 23:21 發表
Today, I attended the open forum  and than early left due to an urgent matter while the Head Master LAM was giving his presentation for about school atmosphere, e.g. students can wear their sport sho ...

[ 本帖最後由 iantsang 於 10-1-15 12:43 編輯 ]

fishman10hk

Today, I attended the open forum  and than early left due to an urgent matter while the Head Master LAM was giving his presentation for about school atmosphere, e.g. students can wear their sport shore to school...

Could any parent who has attended the forum please sharing the valuable information I have missed? I will be very appreciate for your sharing!

[ 本帖最後由 fishman10hk 於 10-1-9 23:28 編輯 ]

iantsang

Apple Daily refers to St. Louis as
「英中」名校聖類斯中學 now.

http://hk.apple.nextmedia.com/re ... amp;art_id=13609429

I think it is convincing even to the press that the school can handle the situation well.

fsforth

原帖由 hifing 於 10-1-8 13:40 發表


Hi fsforth, many thanks to your info. and I appreciate much your clear elaboration.

But how come St. Louis is downgraded if the two schools are at the similar level? I read from other post that som ...

落車多數因為中一收生時多Band2 學生, 如果計HKCEE成績, SLS 也不是差得如外界所說.

無可否認, 一眾頂尖名校會考14分以上比率有80%以上,
換句話說, 還有10幾個%人考得很差, 為數少, 但間間學校總會有人考試失敗, 再top 我也未見過有100%.

[ 本帖最後由 fsforth 於 10-1-8 16:18 編輯 ]

hifing

原帖由 fsforth 於 10-1-7 10:35 發表


我都係quote khmama 個topic, 你可以去上一個post click 番入條link 睇睇, 其實, 如果你想了解一間學校, 最好自己上學校web site download 番個 school report, lunch time 時間去睇下學生行為去了解下校風

這是 ...

Hi fsforth, many thanks to your info. and I appreciate much your clear elaboration.

But how come St. Louis is downgraded if the two schools are at the similar level? I read from other post that some famous schools have over 80% in this >14 points rating.

fsforth

原帖由 leoncf 於 10-1-7 02:45 發表
SLS的小學是直資的所以不夠津小爭。小學收生不足，而且有D小學家長好自私經常干預學校的教學。如果小學校長可以強硬一些會對小學部的發展有幫助。至於中學部，我只能說SLS是教人的。如果你的小朋友是Band 1 中QC一定無，KC ...

SLS 小學是私校, 不是直資, 兩班共50人, 升中一時Band1頭學生多另謀出路, Band3的也不能原校直升, 除頭除尾不足40人, 所以中一大部分都是外來生

我同意你的意見, 如果小朋友成績是band1中至尾, 留在SLS上中學是一個正確的決定

fsforth

原帖由 hifing 於 10-1-6 16:56 發表
Where do u get the HKCEE result for St. Paul Boys as I am considering to apply this school for my boy?  But if your info. is correct, then both St. Louis and St. Paul are equally bad in this aspect.

我都係quote khmama 個topic, 你可以去上一個post click 番入條link 睇睇, 其實, 如果你想了解一間學校, 最好自己上學校web site download 番個 school report, lunch time 時間去睇下學生行為去了解下校風

這是最update 既SP report:
http://www.spc.edu.hk/docs/SchoolReport0809.pdf

如果有好成績既學校, 多數直接寫出HKCEE credit rate 再加 14分以上 percentage. 一旦某年成績唔好, 就會巧妙地present 個data 出來

以St. Paul 個 report 為例:

睇呢D report 就要自己計下數, 香港F.6收生要求第一round 要有14分以上, assume St. Paul F.6 都是同一要求

08/09年度, 只得80%中六位是收原校生, 中六total 有89人, that means 得71人是由原校中五班來的

中五有152人, 71/152 = 46.8% 有14分以上而又選擇原校升中六 (Assume St Paul 唔收14分以下)
而SLS 中六一向第一日首輪已經收夠學生, 絕不收外來生

khmama 估46.x% maybe underestimated, 因為由個report  63%中五生在本地讀中六 (大約96人), 25% 出國留學 (大約38人), 我會覺得兩間學校成績相差不大, 14分以上大約 5x%.

[ 本帖最後由 fsforth 於 10-1-7 11:00 編輯 ]

leoncf

SLS的小學是直資的所以不夠津小爭。小學收生不足，而且有D小學家長好自私經常干預學校的教學。如果小學校長可以強硬一些會對小學部的發展有幫助。至於中學部，我只能說SLS是教人的。如果你的小朋友是Band 1 中QC一定無，KC就算入到會有機會因自覺性不足而追不上。SLS是最好的選擇，起碼讀完出社會會是一個頂天立地的男子漢。不過SLS的學生傳統上只重理科，如果文科生就不應考慮SLS。

原帖由 breefan 於 10-1-4 11:18 發表
記得當年 st. louis 險被踢出百多間英中之列,
後上訴得直,
而同系的慈幼就冇咁好彩!
但慈幼並冇放棄 ...
偷步用英文, 小學力谷...
年年升上st paul co-ed, 張祝珊 ... 大有人在!

其實依家st. louis 的情況應該有當 ...

hifing

Where do u get the HKCEE result for St. Paul Boys as I am considering to apply this school for my boy?  But if your info. is correct, then both St. Louis and St. Paul are equally bad in this aspect.

fsforth

原帖由 hifing 於 10-1-3 20:46 發表
2010 / 11 學年部份「落車」中學

2009 HKCEE
( Distinct + Credit ) / Candidate
14 points or more from best 6 subjects
Hong Kong
ST Louis
2.95
55.1%
Kowloon
Our Lady's
2.14
41.3%
N. T.
Immaculate Heart o ...

其實也不算是太差, 如果同St. Paul 比:
聖保羅書院  (推算上年6科14分約佔58%, 今年46.39%)
http://forum.edu-kingdom.com/viewthread.php?tid=2141081&page=1&extra=#pid32197545

在語言方面的確是有改進的空間, 語言基礎好, 讀其他科目自然事半功倍

breefan

記得當年 st. louis 險被踢出百多間英中之列,
後上訴得直,
而同系的慈幼就冇咁好彩!
但慈幼並冇放棄 ...
偷步用英文, 小學力谷...
年年升上st paul co-ed, 張祝珊 ... 大有人在!

其實依家st. louis 的情況應該有當年慈幼咁worst,
所以st. louis 當務之急係谷好小學,
仲要secure d 叻學生上中學

原帖由 hifing 於 10-1-3 20:46 發表
2010 / 11 學年部份「落車」中學

2009 HKCEE
( Distinct + Credit ) / Candidate
14 points or more from best 6 subjects
Hong Kong
ST Louis
2.95
55.1%
Kowloon
Our Lady's
2.14
41.3%
N. T.
Immaculate Heart o ...

hifing

2010 / 11 學年部份「落車」中學

2009 HKCEE	( Distinct + Credit ) / Candidate	14 points or more from best 6 subjects
Hong Kong
ST Louis	2.95	55.1%
Kowloon
Our Lady's	2.14	41.3%
N. T.
Immaculate Heart of Mary	2.80	54.5%
Kwok Tak Seng	1.97	53.0%
Yuen Long Public	1.90	37.1%

I got this info. from another thread. If it is true, St. Louise's HKCEE examination result seem to be far below the expectation.

iantsang

Hi fisherman10hk,

I am glad to know that you have now more confident towards the school.

I wish you and your family a wonderful Christmas and a prosperous New Year!

原帖由 fishman10hk 於 09-12-22 17:05 發表
Hi iantsang,

Thank you for your valuable information, I am now more confident of this school. :)  I am hoping for the next chance to share with you, the old boy of St. Louis.

Marry X'mas and Happy  ...

fishman10hk

Hi iantsang,

Thank you for your valuable information, I am now more confident of this school. :)  I am hoping for the next chance to share with you, the old boy of St. Louis.

Marry X'mas and Happy new year!

iantsang

Hi fishman10hk,

You may find the link to the press release by the school to answer your queries.  I hope it has addressed your concerns.

http://www.stlouis.edu.hk/LanguagePolicy.pdf

原帖由 fishman10hk 於 09-12-17 22:05 發表
多謝你的分析

我所擔心的是惡性循環問題, (降呢) 後中學吸引唔到band1生進入, 跌band祇怕是遲早之事, 今天的聖類斯中學頗有昔日觀塘名英中 - 聖若瑟英文中學 的影子, 轉為中中後現在祇能掙扎於band3邊緣了, 你認為 ...

iantsang

Hi sysadmin,

Thanks for the positive comments!  I agree with you as there is a difference between freedom and self-discipline.  Of course, this is affected by the society where common understandings of such values may not be the same.

Thanks for your support!  I also believe the school can become stronger!

原帖由 sysadmin 於 09-12-18 00:44 發表
現在聖 louis 的學生其實亦應自强ar....街外人看不見校內的教育...看不見學生的能力....卻總看他們的外表....不修邊幅....沒有一致整齊的校服及髮式等....不是每人都能有足夠的見識...了解st louis 自由與自律的校風 ...

iantsang

Hi Tommy,

Have you studied in a Salesians school also?  Seems you understand very well the philosophy of the organization.  Thank you very much for stating out this and remind us that we shouldn't be worried too much.  Since all along, we always have  a good balance of students and the intention is to give everyone a good chance for their future.  We are not like other schools who strategically alter their own school philosophy like a commercial organization.  Thanks again!

Also, must make it clear that we are still keeping the 85% policy.  However, I understand there have been some mis-understandings from the primary school parents that they may feel the secondary section is not honoring this acceptance method.  I can assure them it is in writing, and we MUST follow it.  I believe there must be confusions mainly due to the complication of the allocation by the EDB.

I can assure the SLS primary parents, if SLS is your first choice in the list of schools, and the students belong to either Band 1 & 2, they will all be accepted to the secondary section (the primary section runs small classes now).  The school management have no authorizations to alter this.

原帖由 Tommy 於 09-12-18 01:04 發表


iantsang,

據我所知，所有慈幼會的中學都會預留85%學位給直屬的小學，以貫徹鮑思高神父的教育精神，他們不會因為要爭取「好」學生，而放棄「教好」一個平凡的學生。

很多學校都放棄了這個85，聖類斯仍有這個堅持嗎？好的東西 ...

Tommy

原帖由 iantsang 於 09-12-17 23:38 發表
hi fishman10hk,

I won't worry this issue will happen, mainly due to the differences of students allocation in the Central & Western district:

Currently, there are 12 secondary schools in the distric ...

iantsang,

據我所知，所有慈幼會的中學都會預留85%學位給直屬的小學，以貫徹鮑思高神父的教育精神，他們不會因為要爭取「好」學生，而放棄「教好」一個平凡的學生。

很多學校都放棄了這個85，聖類斯仍有這個堅持嗎？好的東西要堅持呀！不要因為世界變、人心變而放棄一些重要的核心價值。

祝您們繼續堅持要教「好」一個人，堅持要去改變一個人，而唔係用一些叻人去改變間學校。

Tommy