I feel frustrated....

msbeauty

Actually I decide to plan my son to study IS, however after observing some of my friends (which is more richer than me, higher demanding towards their children and higher acedmic qualification), ALL of them also put send their children to Local schools.

When I talked to those friends about my decision, they also remind me that the Burden will be extremely large, and my son cannot return to Local school if he cannot catch up, and finanlly needs to study aboard.  

Then I start to think, does my decision correct?  Even the richer people also haven't chosen IS, it seems to me that 沒有咁大個頭, 就不要戴咁大頂帽.

(Actually I am just from Lower Middle Class, I cannot afford too much study fees)

I am now getting frustrated...

哈爾濱

係law, 你覺得做得對咪就去做law, 唔好理其他人講咩

就好似我咁, 我識有d人, 話我.  好心你lar, 英文又唔得, 都唔知點解你會比2個小朋友去讀.睇下你點同d miss溝通.我都唔會理佢地, 因為我老公英文得, 而間學校d老師及職員又好, 找不到老公, 就找個識中文的跟我溝通law

so, d閒雜人等, 可以不理

lottieclee

Sorry... we seemed to have forgotten msbeauty who started the thread.

Let's just say.... if you believe your decision is right, then go ahead with your believe and believe in it all the way.  I have learnt that with HK education system, there is no looking back.

My parents do a lot of "sharing" at church about our family, my brother and I.  Every time they cried because they didn't know if it was the right decision.  I am not as "glamarous" as it seems on the skin.  I had been through hard times too, like any teenagers.  I was, and probably still am, a pain in the butt !

原帖由 msbeauty 於 09-12-9 15:13 發表
Actually I decide to plan my son to study IS, however after observing some of my friends (which is more richer than me, higher demanding towards their children and higher acedmic qualification), ALL o ...

lottieclee

I agree... and you cannot measure what you are doing for your child right now.  I don't think my parents did.  According to my father, he was doing what grandma did.  My grandma was illiterate, and she lined up outside La Salle cuz she saw parents lining up and it must be a good school.  My dad got in for P.6 then.  Better life for the family when my dad graduated F.7; although there was not enough money for him to go to uni in Canada (which he was accepted for medical school).  He cried over it and kept the acceptance letter in his safe till NOW!

My parents did what they did because they wanted a better life for me (now I am 30+ and understands!)  But when I was sent to boarding school in UK, seeing friends going out with their parents during the weekend and all I had was talking to my parents for 10 minutes a week, was heartbreaking!

No with my own son, I see what it is.  We, as modern parents, can only do what we think is best for them, as of this moment... as much as we can afford.  My parents put me in a position where I am lucky to not worry about finances to send my son to IS.  I am also luckier than some of you, my mother-in-law doesn't understand a thing about what my son says (english of course) and doesn't complain!  My husband, after school visits, have decided that he doesn't like local education systems.  I still have my worries, I worry about which IS to send my son to.  Let's face it... we parents are greedy... but just for the better!

原帖由 hifing 於 09-12-12 14:36 發表






It is nice to have lottieclee's sharing with her learning experience. She was lucky enough to try different education systems. She has caring and resourceful parents, and successfully found her  ...

hifing

原帖由 lottieclee 於 09-12-11 23:50 發表
I feel for the story above.  Here's mine to share:

My parents sent me to UK for beginning Yr 8 because I could not keep up with the chinese in the "famous" all girls convent local school which was al ...

It is nice to have lottieclee's sharing with her learning experience. She was lucky enough to try different education systems. She has caring and resourceful parents, and successfully found her own path. However, most HK families may not be that better off to raise their kids without worring about their own financial future. Many parents like mine work days and nights to put their children into university, hoping for them to have better prospects.

I understand parents will put most resources on the kids education without asking for pay back. But there are also practical things to consider when it comes to life.

oooray

原帖由 thankful 於 09-12-12 01:09 發表

有時真係唔知D finance blog writer條數計

***若你唔使到外國用錢，可能唔知港紙跟美金跌之後，幾唔見使，要供子女在外國讀書的父母就知，已開始有入哂肉的感覺。…*

如果遲D美金升返上去, 唔知佢到時會唔會話去外國 ...

出國留學，靈魂有冇增值/減值?幾錢兩?等臨死秤o下至知...

oooray

原帖由 CindyMak 於 09-12-12 05:50 發表
oooray, 多謝你的support。唉！佢地覺得我用佢個仔d錢。下年大同細都要轉學校(P1 & K1)，唔知又會哦幾耐。

唔同人有唔同價值觀，有d人覺得唔應該/唔需要放太多錢落小朋友的教育，小朋友依然能夠長大，出來工作。
正如我parent ...

再多口講句:
"佢地覺得我用佢個仔d錢。"
我支持妳冇用。妳老公係唔係企響妳個邊先?
如果佢唔企硬，俾人哦多兩哦，耳仔軟/牆頭草，將來床頭鬧交床尾打交就弊傢伙啦....
唔同人有唔同價值觀，對，但身邊最親o既人o既200%支持好重要!
祝好運!

mattsmum

thank you for your sharing. especially as a child went through all systems, as a mum and as a daughter.

原帖由 lottieclee 於 09-12-11 23:50 發表
I feel for the story above.  Here's mine to share:

My parents sent me to UK for beginning Yr 8 because I could not keep up with the chinese in the "famous" all girls convent local school which was al ...

CindyMak

oooray, 多謝你的support。唉！佢地覺得我用佢個仔d錢。下年大同細都要轉學校(P1 & K1)，唔知又會哦幾耐。

唔同人有唔同價值觀，有d人覺得唔應該/唔需要放太多錢落小朋友的教育，小朋友依然能夠長大，出來工作。
正如我parents-in-law的 concept。"唔洗去禁遠讀書，讀屋企樓下的學校(or within walkable distance)，學費又平，放學返屋企又多d時間讀書/休息/玩。。。個細路咪又係 o禁 大！"

我唔敢話讀local school定係IS的小朋友，讀書能力，行為問題甚至係語文能力邊個好d。因為真係好視乎個小朋友自己+家長放幾多resources (心機&時間&錢)。

原帖由 oooray 於 09-12-10 09:11 發表

又唔使佢俾$$$都要哦?我好同情妳...
加油加油努力加油...

lottieclee

I feel for the story above.  Here's mine to share:

My parents sent me to UK for beginning Yr 8 because I could not keep up with the chinese in the "famous" all girls convent local school which was already not great with chinese.  They had decided that there was no hope for me in the local system.  Let's just say, I wasn't exactly happy in the elite UK school and I eventually had to transfer back to the ESF system.  Then I decided that I hates the UK school system and went to uni in US, which was a lot of fun.

Did I appreciate what my parents did for me?  Honestly, no... until I have to make the decision for my little one now.  Can I repay my parents? Er.... not really, not at this moment.  The money is now being "invested" into their grandchild.  

BUT.... They probably saved me in may ways.  They allowed me to make choices and not become the typical "Kong lui".  AND... I had a lot of fun through learning in a creative, freer environment.  I would tell you... if you think IS is not competitive, you think wrong.  If you think IS would make your child a more sucessive person.. let's just say, it really depends on the child.. but IS system provides more channels to explore the child's potentials.  They would always "feel good" about their achievement.

With all that said... there's this comparison in the family. I went overseas/IS; my brother --- local school then overseas uni.  He is a very technical person and now an accountant in big 4.  Me? well... a healthcare professional.  Do any of us know how much our parents gave us for our education?  Not when we were young (I mean when we were at school)... my parents were middle class, both had steady jobs.  We drove nicer cars than my father when we were in the US.  Along the years after our graduation, we kind of noticed changes in their life... then we knew they gave up a lot.  My mother... quit her job as soon as I got my doctorate.  She said she can finally do things she likes and not having to worry about money.  My father retired from his original job and found another job to become a CEO somewhere and now tells us that he continues to work so the 2 of them have a comfortable retirement!

So here you go... we naughty kids would ONE DAY realize how much you are doing for us, no matter rich or poor.  We would be glad that you made a decision for us.  Would we be successful?  Probably not in the way that you imagine.  Can we repay you?  Maybe not.  But afterall, we ensure you whether local or IS, we know how much you love us!

mattsmum

i heard a different story, first one went to england after finished hk elite primary school, second one went to GSIS after finished p5 hk elite primary schooland his mum said thank god, going to GSIS saves so much.

[ 本帖最後由 mattsmum 於 09-12-11 23:14 編輯 ]

hifing

Below is an excerpt from a finance blog writer, 陸羽仁. I find it is worth to take a reference and may be relevant to those parents sending their kinds to IS.


　　若你唔使到外國用錢，可能唔知港紙跟美金跌之後，幾唔見使，要供子女在外國讀書的父母就知，已開始有入哂肉的感覺。除美國外，以港人留學三大熱門地英國、澳洲和紐西蘭為例，當地貨幣跌完已急升，英鎊算升得少，今年至今升了14%，紐元升了28%，澳元更升了33%，如果有仔女在澳洲讀書，同年初比，要比多三分之一。
　　三地之中，以英國倫敦讀書最貴，一年要用40至50萬元，價升一成都加唔少錢，我有不少朋友有仔女在英國讀書，我同佢地講，一年用50萬，若由中三起就去倫敦讀書，讀到大學畢業要400萬，你諗佢畢業後做幾多年先至可以儲到400萬? 以大學畢業頭10年平均月薪2萬元計，佢交埋稅除埋使用，一個月儲到1萬元經已好叻，10年先至儲120萬，加埋人工，打工20年都未必儲到400萬，仲未計佢讀書唔成變成一條廢柴，所以花400萬供小朋友去英國讀書，可能唔夠用400萬買舊資產送俾佢咁實際。我講完呢番話，老友們通常面都黑埋，話我太市儈，話細路仔讀書係一世咁話。唉，我心諗，父母的苦心，個小朋友知唔知? 佢地可能求求其其讀完七八年，都唔知父母用盡自己錢供佢出國。我又聽到一個c個案，個仔讀完中七考到香港科大，本來唔錯，但因為佢friends全部在英國，所以唔肯返來，搞到阿爸爸阿媽要賣埋間屋至夠錢供佢在英國讀埋3年大學，只係因為「佢friends」，唉! 做父母就係咁，非理性，誰憐天下父母心! 到自己面對咁樣的問題時，都可能係咁非理性地唔計成本效益供細路仔出國讀書

ACIC

It's actually a very personal decision.  It's not all about money, but I think it has to do with valuation more than money.  My personal experience was that I planned to send my kids to local DSS schools that has strong emphasis on English, however, after considering many factors, and a long time of thinking, I realize that IS suits my vision most, as most of the parents have said before, it's a big commitment, and you've to convince yourself a 100% what you are doing is right and is the best for your kid after you have done all you could to understand all the possible options.

I have gone through the same path, I dreamed about sending my kids to IS, but there is a fear inside me that if I could sustain their school fees throughout all the years, also, same to many parents, I also struggle whether I should use so much money for their education, if not, I could have lived a much better life, buying a better apartment, going on trips twice a year.... i even think, if i use the school fees to pay for a mortgage, by the time they grow up, they each could have an apartment paid off....but after all, I ask myself: "how much are you willing give to your kids? And if you could leave them an apartment, is it better having an apartment or is it better to help them find their dreams and earn the abilities to make money and to lead their desired life.  So, ended up, I realize it's a battle in your mind to find out the valuation of yours, and how determined you are to give what you think is "the best" to your kids.  You could ask opinion of others how they choose education for their kids, and so you could understand their rationale, but not to ask them what you ought to choose, this way, you would be able to make a more sensible choice and you will find that each of them choose a school base on very different reasons, including location, curriculum, religion......

Ruby1219

Kids in IS are supposed to study and work independently. As parents, we should give financial, spiritual and emotional support. Even I can help my son with his homework, I would remind myself not to. Their teachers can tell if the kids are doing the homework by themselves or by their parents. And the teachers definitely don't appreciate the latter.
Teachers do not suppose us parents to teach the kids. My son has to study German, no way I can help him. This is also one of the good things of IS that I like.

Ruby

哈爾濱

我小朋友都讀緊3歲班, 我反而係擔心我自己d英文太屎, 而家佢d功課之類我都應付到, 但佢一去到小學, 我怕我頂唔住.

oooray

原帖由 thankful 於 09-12-10 22:48 發表
oooray,

Like you, I have 2 kids.  But unlike you, I will end up with 2 richer friends.   Guess who they are?  Yes, they are my kids.  It's because my wife has decided to give all my money to them.  ( ...

Your wife is more effective than MOPIKO in relieving itchy-body. all BK mummies should follow...