Good Hope: 45 pupils in a class

Gooddaddy

Just found out that they cramp 45 students into a classroom commencing current school year.  And classes start at 7:30am.  I'm starting to dislike it now..

45 people! I'm getting worry that studnents may not be getting enough attention

w_y

因為呢個原因, 我放棄申請 (kg). 45 人真係太多啦, 仲要係私校. 雖然佢個 campus 真係好吸引. 我有鄰居讀緊, 看起來都係好乖女文靜的.

去到 tertiary level, 幾百人一班上課常有的事, 但小學我就唔係咁想囉.

smartcar

For the 40+ student in one class, my wife told me that it was tradition since she was student at GH.  There was 40+ in one class twenty years ago as well as the timetable.

Gooddaddy

This sounds very positive and reassuring. If kids have to start at 7:30am, they would be exhausted by the time they got home. So if they can finish most of the homework at school by the teachers' guidance, then that's a good thing.

原帖由 Bon_Bon_Pa_Pa 於 09-10-17 18:40 發表
Why Good Hope class start early at 7:30am because the school arrange all the academic lecture classes conducted in the morning. After lunch, the classes are mainly to guide the pupils to do the home w ...

Bon_Bon_Pa_Pa

Why Good Hope class start early at 7:30am because the school arrange all the academic lecture classes conducted in the morning. After lunch, the classes are mainly to guide the pupils to do the home work; tutorial classes; and some sport or leisure activity classes. This arrangement can let the pupils finish most of the home work at school with the guidance of teachers. I think this arrangement is quite good where the children can have more time for other extra-activities after school.

junior_pam

Just counting the ratio you are absouletly right in this sense. But, it is also relying on the quality of teachers and schools. If the governing policy of school is well-established, it should be less likely happend on what you stated in your comment.

For black sheep, if say so, I have no idea. I may say DGJS, Scared Heart, Heep Yan, St Rosa, Maryknoll, St Mary..... are better. They may not have any black sheep in school.

Final judement that you are right

Just a kind sharing.

原帖由 Gooddaddy 於 09-10-17 17:37 發表
We are not talking about attention grabbing students; we are talking about those students who need help because  they unable to follow well in class. In this situation, I don't think the teacher will  ...

Gooddaddy

We are not talking about attention grabbing students; we are talking about those students who need help because  they unable to follow well in class. In this situation, I don't think the teacher will be able to give sufficient assistence/ attention to the students concerned given that there are 45 students in a classroom.  I think the optimum no of students in a class is around 36 just lilke DGJS.

I don't understand why the school does not adjust its school hours after they have changed to a full-day school.  They don't seem to concern about families living far away.

Of course, you would feel a sense of love and enthusiasm during PTA outiing, if you don't, then there must be a big problem with that school.

Yes, there are black sheeps everywhere but most of them are found in Goodhope. Don't ask me why, again it's just rumour>

原帖由 junior_pam 於 09-10-17 17:13 發表
Dear all,
You are all correct that the kids and parents have to wake up very early every morning because the schooling time starts at 7:30 a.m.
Yes, you are right that the teacher to pupils is 1 to 45 ...

junior_pam

Dear all,
You are all correct that the kids and parents have to wake up very early every morning because the schooling time starts at 7:30 a.m.
Yes, you are right that the teacher to pupil is 1 to 45. It is very crowd and attention to pupils is very very limited.
Yes, Good Hope School have the black sheep e.g. smokers, drug addicts or drinker.
Anything I miss and what else? Overall, bad bad......

Kind sharing only:
What the elite schools are eager to accept is the independent, proactive and high frustration tolerating pupils but not the attention seeking pupils and parents. Independent personality should be habituated in the primary school. I contemplate that no parents want their kids to depend on parents. Of course, reasonable and kind enquiry are very welcomed by school.
The classroom is very spacious and new. 50 pupils can be studied together even.

Last week, I have joined the picnic organized by Teacher-Parents Association for primary one. I can surely sense the love and enthusiam from the parents of Good Hoper.

If the time is too early, I think the school may not fit to your family because the family commitment and support are very vital in all aspects. Same to pupils, teacher need to wake up more earlier but they stay themselves in school, Why?

Homework is abundant but easy to complete.

Smoker.... How about the La salle' college of drug addicting? How about DBS and Queen's college of stealing?  Black sheeps are everywhere. Try to think about your secondary school life. How many of them?

Thus, let it be that many environmental factors are uncontrollable and future of that who will know.
Family education is golden rule of nuturing your lovely kids.

At least, my kid studies happily.
Regards

[ 本帖最後由 junior_pam 於 09-10-17 17:21 編輯 ]

tinkerbell2004

If all the family can speak English fluently, the child would more likely to have good English development.

grDaddy

會唔會佢屋企本身就係講英文架?
如果唔係的話, 佢都未必會全程同父母講英文.
始終難以相信只得少量net teacher的學校可以教出竹昇英文.

有冇人可以話啤我知德望的spoken english係咪真係好好.  如果係的話, 係靠學校亦或係靠家庭的支援?  D學生係講好好的本地英文亦或近似竹昇英文?

grDaddy

會唔會佢屋企本身就係講英文架?
如果唔係的話, 佢都未必會全程同父母講英文.
始終難以相信只得少量net teacher的學校可以教出竹昇英文.

有冇人可以話啤我知德望的spoken english係咪真係好好.  如果係的話, 係靠學校亦或係靠家庭的支援?  D學生係講好好的本地英文亦或近似竹昇英文?

childrenfirst

45 students in a class? it's far too much! the group dynamic will be completely different from a 28 or 30 people class. Only the best and the worst will be noticed and the majority will become the "quiet group". Don't think it catch the standard and expectations nowadays.

tinkerbell2004

Do anyone know the importance of language development in this school?
Some mentioned that the students in this school were good in English.
Any & how many NET are a/v in GH?

猴子爸

I don't think any school can accept such violent behavior.  But "坐定定" "strictly keep silent" 这一类，我相信还是有不同的接受程度。

smartcar

For the behaviour in single sex school, I have no much perference or beleive which is better over the others.

However, single sex school would not tolerate higher for trouble character.  Boy assault another boy in YW would be grave sin...all boys were learnt since P.1 as they are brothers.  The penality would be kicked out from school.

45 : 1 is kind of hugh class and oppose to current small class trend.

But we are customer and the one who pay the tuition.  the school did not point you a gun, right?

Gooddaddy

She had told me before that she used to sneak out from school to smoke. She was a naughty and adventurous type of girl, but she did give me one of the best (and bad) time.

原帖由 wootaitai 於 09-10-15 15:34 發表
smoker when she grew up (in college) is quite different than smoking in secondary school bor...

猴子爸

Oh yes, I missed that word...  logically, it still makes sense, but i hope not...

原帖由 wootaitai 於 09-10-15 15:42 發表
he said primary school ma...

猴子爸

Like you, I prefer boys' schools for my son, actually.  I believe boys' schools have higher tolerence for active/naughty boys.  Yes, we will also try others as back up if we fail to get to the final at those ultracompetitive schools.

原帖由 Gooddaddy 於 09-10-15 15:36 發表
Yeah, sort of; I'm more keen on girls school. How about you, you seemed just focusing on YW, DBS and TSL, not interested in any others??