Questions about Applying 直資 / 私立學校

mimame

Hello Daddies and Mummies,

I have got some questions regarding applying for 直資 / 私立學校. Anyone can help?

(1) Father's and Mother's occupation
Is there any reference / validity  check? How the school can verify whether I am a CEO or a tea lady of a company? Or they simply trust what I have filled in?

(2) Catholic and Christian
If I take my kid to a church to become a Catholic, can I go to another one to become a Christian? Again, is there any check?

(3) Portfolio
Should I use English or Chinese to prepare the portfolio? Is there any sample to share?

MANY THANKS!

jaycee_mami

你不如疊埋心水等大抽獎, 報津官校吧,

你的區分無top的band 1, 但我估計, band 1或band 2的, 應該實有.  條條大路通羅馬, 讀普通小學唔代表上唔到名牌中學和大學.

JESSTIFF

sir,

you are well educated and i am sure when you have a chance to meet with the principals during interviews, they can tell.  one year or two years out of job is not the end of the world.  on average, people work for 35~ years until they retire.  why must people work non-stop (for whatever reasons)? some people take a break (e.g. few years) to rethink and repathe their lives by will, whereas some people want to work but are just temporarily out of job.  

schools welcome educated parents, as long as you don't default payment of school fees!

you need to be possible! what to put down on the form would not be my concern, i would be more concerned whether i could really afford the school fee in long run. (hope for the best, plan for the worst.)  if eventually you need to ask your kid(s) to quit the school because you really can't afford anymore, it might be even tougher for them to adjust to an aided school.

many middle-class people send their kids to aided schools (not the top schools everyone fights for), so why should you feel bad if you have to put your kid(s) in local school which is not band 1? if you are a band 1 parent, your kid will be a band 1 kid. let him/her study there, keep up with his/her good work, apply for a good secondary school!  

原帖由 mimame 於 09-10-3 00:01 發表
Time flies, it's going to be 2 years by end of this month. I also don't believe it, but this is a fact. I got Master Degree from UK, and I studied in band-1 school in Kowloon Tong, so what? Even if I' ...

rachncurtsmom

原帖由 chingmon 於 09-10-4 17:02 發表
學校面試時會問小朋友有關家長的職業,小朋友知阿爸無番工(已經2年),到時會點回答?

I don't know about other children, but if the interviewer asks my daughter what daddy does for a living, she would probably go blank.  She only knows daddy goes to work.  She has no idea what he does and she absolutely doesn't know that he's the boss.  Mmmm...... maybe I should start telling her.

Tinko

樓主既問題始終在於恥於（向學校）承認自已兩年多以來既真正身分——全職爸爸 （full time dady, homemaker, househusband…）。

樓主講過：“Used up all my savings .... I can earn again later in my life. But if my kid misses an opportunity to go to a good school, this will ruin his/her whole life.”可見樓主非常疼愛子女，在兩年多吾使返工既日子裹，想必有更多既親子時間和更好既親子關系，樓主既孩子因而在生命既起始階段擁有更多與爸爸一起既珍貴回憶。樓主既孩子係有福既，因為樓主（自兩年前起）係“全職爸爸”（不論緣於客觀定主觀原因）。

樓主也講過：“Of course  I know being a housewife is what schools like. But I am an unemployed FATHER. I feel pressure to put this into the form.” 好明顯，如果樓主係女人，問題已經解決。

“男主外、女主內”真係一種很根深蒂故既社會觀念 (stereotype)。傳統上，男人吾返工一定有問題，男人湊仔一定係無出色，吃“軟飯”，甚至無能。男人因為返工而“吾得閒”照顧小朋友係勤奮負責天經地義，因為照顧小朋友而吾返工就癡線懶惰大逆不道。

傳統上，女人吾返工就係盡賢妻良毋既責任，就係因為男人有本事賺得多。女人因為返工而“吾得閒”照顧小朋友就有需要檢討，因為照顧小朋友而吾返工就係偉大犧牲值得嘉許。

有無諗過點解男人個priority一定要事業先於家庭和親子？點解女人先有權揀家庭和親子為先？點解一模一樣既行為男人做就癡線女人做就偉大？有無諗過在教育與就業機會都大致男女平等既今日，基於不同既實際原因，傳統男女角色點解吾可以靈活互調，以便優勢互補？男人點解吾可以做全職爸爸？

在今日講通識、講獨立而理性思考、講質素生活，我地能否不再囿於成見，痛快地活出自我，表現真正既自已。

一念天堂，一念地獄。思想既困局解決了，其它既問題也船到橋頭。

[ 本帖最後由 Tinko 於 09-10-4 19:35 編輯 ]

rachncurtsmom

If it were my husband, I would suggest him put "self-employed" or something like that.  I wouldn't exactly put CEO or homemaker.

rachncurtsmom

原帖由 ChiChiPaPa 於 09-10-3 17:22 發表


那你建議全職爸爸的英文名詞會否係Househusband?

Househusband is a term used in the western countries, nothing special.  It's just that in Chinese culture, it is not so common for a father to stay home to look after children.  There's really nothing wrong with it.

Gooddaddy

i dunno what you wanabout. the threadstarter didn't quit his job to become a homemaker. he was laid off and has been unable to find a job ever since.  As mentioned by other members here, we, as parents, should set example for children by being honest with it.  Do you really think the school will be impressed by someone who put homemaker in the application form? I don't think so.  But if the threadstarter puts down as unemployed, the school will at least  acknowledge him as a honest father.

ChiChiPaPa

原帖由 Gooddaddy 於 09-10-3 17:40 發表
i would simply write *unemployed* in the form coz this is what the term refers to.  it looks odd if you write something like: *General Manager (last job or previouly)* or *ex-XXXX*. this may invite fo ...

所以不是字眼的問題。會不會你是不認同homemaker的工作價值？是不是覺得男人不應當homemaker，也不可以叫homemaker。

你可以看一看以下一篇文章，不是人人都覺得homemaker 不及其他工作的價值：

What's a homemaker worth? The shocking truth

http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/CollegeandFamily/P46800.asp

或許有一天，我未到退休時，也想轉做homemaker，希望到時不會有人對我說，我只能在職業上寫上unemployed。

Gooddaddy

i would simply write *unemployed* in the form coz this is what the term refers to.  it looks odd if you write something like: *General Manager (last job or previouly)* or *ex-XXXX*. this may invite follow-up questions from the interviewer.

原帖由 ChiChiPaPa 於 09-10-3 17:22 發表


那你建議全職爸爸的英文名詞會否係Househusband?

ChiChiPaPa

原帖由 Gooddaddy 於 09-10-3 17:10 發表
a homemaker is usually a woman who spends a lot of time looking after her home and family. it would sound odd if it applied to a man. i think it's best to come clean and avoid using euphemism to cover ...

那你建議全職爸爸的英文名詞會否係Househusband?

Gooddaddy

a homemaker is usually a woman who spends a lot of time looking after her home and family. it would sound odd if it applied to a man. i think it's best to come clean and avoid using euphemism to cover something.

原帖由 ChiChiPaPa 於 09-10-3 15:29 發表


唔係叫 unemployed FATHER，應該係 homemaker。 其實我覺得 housewife 一詞帶有家庭崗位歧視色彩，夫婦應該共同努力照顧家庭和孩子。學歷高唔一定要把事業放在家庭之前。 ...

ChiChiPaPa

原帖由 mimame 於 09-10-2 21:53 發表
Of course I know being a housewife is what schools like. But I am an unemployed FATHER. I feel pressure to put this into the form.

I never think I cannot get back to job market for that long .... tha ...

唔係叫 unemployed FATHER，應該係 homemaker。 其實我覺得 housewife 一詞帶有家庭崗位歧視色彩，夫婦應該共同努力照顧家庭和孩子。學歷高唔一定要把事業放在家庭之前。

hui3328

我勸呢位家長, 替子女選校是其次, 不要太迷信小學對孩子的一生有多大的影響.

反而你要在子女面前樹立榜樣, 努力搵工作, 天無絕人之路. 既然你有碩士學位, 為什麼不能放下身段, 就算搵一份幾千元的工, 也好過坐在家裡. 去做地產經紀, 做保險, 或去超市作一毎收銀員, 都好過坐在家裡.

Tinko

我吾覺得做全職爸爸有乜吾妥，佢同全職媽媽有乜分別？我地睇呢件事應該都要有d男女平等既胸襟。前排無線先播過兩個全職爸爸既故事，幾好呀。

當然，樓主做全職爸爸係為勢所逼，不過人生起伏好正常，兩年搵吾倒工，只要光明磊落，壓力一定有，自卑則大可不必。

我諗你可以如實寫番你上一份工既資料落去，但寫明係“前任”，衣家就係全職爸爸。

我都相信大部分學校都吾會放太多比重o係父母既職業上，小朋友既表現同性格始終最重要。千其吾好以為自已既職業咁具決定性，張所有結果攬上身。我吾信你填CEO你小朋友就間間學校都入硬。

Bunnytown

Where do you live? if you live in Kln, wants to apply DSS/Private even though with little financial difficulty, I suggest one DSS which is quite new but my friend's son is now studiying there, it's a new type of active learning school with strong emphasis in English, it's called "Po Leung Kok Lam Man Chan" in To Kwa Wan, it is heading to PLK Tan Siu Lin's path.

If you prefer traditional elite Catholic/Christian schools that's another story, you might need to spend more time to well prepare your kid to be smart and outstanding during interviews to offset your weakness.

mimame

Time flies, it's going to be 2 years by end of this month. I also don't believe it, but this is a fact. I got Master Degree from UK, and I studied in band-1 school in Kowloon Tong, so what? Even if I'm willing to cut half of my salary, people still think I am unfit for the job, either too senior or out of the market for too long. But I gain my relationship with the kids which money cannot "buy"...

I studied in a Catholic school before and my wife studied in a Christian school, so we have many Catholic and Christian friends. We have witnessed Catholic and Christian people have a more generous heart/ mindset, so I reckon getting a cert for the kids is not just for applying schools, but also good for their future/ growth.

原帖由 LokYauYau 於 09-10-2 23:28 發表
睇你寫英文都叫有紋有路, 好難想像你unemployed 2年,  馬死落地行, 乜野工都可以做住先....好過"死充", financial tsunami 連好多director/professional 都死, 失業在今時今日唔係唔見得人,係可以諒解,最緊要係"有尊 ...