RC stationery fee gone up 90%

babyriver

Dear all, do you know this year RC's stationery has gone up from $200 the last two years to $380 this year that's an increase of 90% . I would like to hear RC parents comments on this issue. The business manager has not given a breakdown of  the $1430 levy although there's a lot of parents requesing the infromation. Do you think it is fair?

jui

原帖由 babyriver 於 08-9-30 09:48 發表
kylima2006, jui, yellowbird, moca and 壞女孩

多謝你們的評論,!

原來教育綱仲有好多有內涵, 有教養, 高水平的網友. 能客觀地分析, 公平公正地評論! 日後我可以安心發表文章, 和大家討論討論, 交流交流!!

babyri ...

I fully support you, I hate that crazy woman(cara 2xx6),only 撩是鬥非,不客觀地向ESF家長發炮....,
ESF 家長我們要努力,不要為那個人而洩氣,努力加油

babyriver

kylima2006, jui, yellowbird, moca and 壞女孩

多謝你們的評論,!

原來教育綱仲有好多有內涵, 有教養, 高水平的網友. 能客觀地分析, 公平公正地評論! 日後我可以安心發表文章, 和大家討論討論, 交流交流!!

babyriver

壞女孩

嘩!Cara2006 disappear咗一排,以為佢個病好番添,點知佢又返嚟,個病又嚴重咗,真係戥佢擔心.

moca

原帖由 Cara2006 於 08-9-29 11:39 發表
你真係好搞笑，唔同你講落去，真係對各 bk 友唔住。

你要學校交代，你有冇直接約見校長？既然有 guts 公開在 bk 嘈，點解冇 guts 去學校搵 peter kenny 講數？

間間學校都有各大小問題，個個家長都會先係自己處理，真係搞唔掂，大不 ...

嘩! 人地而家係討論下間學校的行政姐, 又唔係話你亞媽, 駛唔駛噤激呀? 如果真係話你亞媽, 你嘛要剎人全家. 我建議你最好体下心理醫生好喎.

yellowbird

原帖由 Cara2006 於 08-9-29 11:39 發表
你真係好搞笑，唔同你講落去，真係對各 bk 友唔住。

你要學校交代，你有冇直接約見校長？既然有 guts 公開在 bk 嘈，點解冇 guts 去學校搵 peter kenny 講數？

間間學校都有各大小問題，個個家長都會先係自己處理，真係搞唔掂，大不 ...

babykingdom 係比大家討論交流的地方, 每個人都可以發表己見. 不一定可以解決到問題. 不一定同你的見解一樣, 做人要客觀一D, 你咁大反應,真奇. 你咁樣仲有人敢在教育網交流. 容嘜易比你罵過嗅.

jui

原帖由 babyriver 於 08-9-29 14:21 發表



朋友你係唔係新移民呀?? 你唔知香港係言論自由的地方嗎??? 既然babykingdom 比個平台大家討論, 誰都有權發表意見, 你唔同意人地係你的問題, 冇必要潑婦罵街!! 你真係令我相信出糧比你果個係英基!!

邊個話你知我 ...

佢有病 ka,次次都針對ESF 的家長,因為佢d仔女考唔到入ESF, you know?

[ 本帖最後由 jui 於 08-9-29 16:10 編輯 ]

kyliema2006

我其實是路過的，見你見解獨特，都忍不住要搭訕。為何在BK發表意見，會影響家長質素呢？祇要家長理性討論，才能真正反映出家長的內涵及質素呢！

強詞奪理，錯！橫蠻無理才會有失身分呢。

原帖由 Cara2006 於 08-9-29 11:39 發表
你真係好搞笑，唔同你講落去，真係對各 bk 友唔住。

你要學校交代，你有冇直接約見校長？既然有 guts 公開在 bk 嘈，點解冇 guts 去學校搵 peter kenny 講數？

間間學校都有各大小問題，個個家長都會先係自己處理，真係搞唔掂，大不 ...

babyriver

原帖由 Cara2006 於 08-9-29 11:39 發表
你真係好搞笑，唔同你講落去，真係對各 bk 友唔住。

你要學校交代，你有冇直接約見校長？既然有 guts 公開在 bk 嘈，點解冇 guts 去學校搵 peter kenny 講數？

間間學校都有各大小問題，個個家長都會先係自己處理，真係搞唔掂，大不 ...

朋友你係唔係新移民呀?? 你唔知香港係言論自由的地方嗎??? 既然babykingdom 比個平台大家討論, 誰都有權發表意見, 你唔同意人地係你的問題, 冇必要潑婦罵街!! 你真係令我相信出糧比你果個係英基!!

邊個話你知我冇同 Peter Kenny 溝通過, 邊個話比你知我冇同教育局聯絡過!! 唔知D野唔好亂噤嘈!!! 凈係起度吠係解決唔到問題架!! 大家唔同 level 係好難要你明, 我唔再同一D冇教養,冇文化, 冇原則的人爭論, 你要做癲婆罵街, 我唔阻你, 誰是誰非公正無私的網友最清楚!!

If you enjoy barking, I won't try to stop you!!!
B.....

Cara2006

你真係好搞笑，唔同你講落去，真係對各 bk 友唔住。

你要學校交代，你有冇直接約見校長？既然有 guts 公開在 bk 嘈，點解冇 guts 去學校搵 peter kenny 講數？

間間學校都有各大小問題，個個家長都會先係自己處理，真係搞唔掂，大不了去 ESF 投訴 peter kenny 囉，都唔滿意，可以再向 EMB 等政府部門反映。
開學一個月都唔夠，有事唔先諗解決方法，就黎 bk 開 topic 嘈，你覺得有幫助咩？乜你覺得 bk 網主同 peter kenny 好 friend，可以幫到你？
又唔係乜野大件事，就嘈嘈嘈，間間學校 d 家長學你， bk 就一日幾萬個新 topic 都唔止。
bk 係家長討論的平台，但唔係話件件事都未諗解決方案就要嘈，我最憎你地班 ESF 家長就係咁。

你唔駛發爛，你食幾錢一餐，我估冇人有興趣知，你食一百蚊一餐，定一萬蚊一餐，同各下 cheap 唔 cheap 冇關。甚麼 peninsula hotel 都要出埋，真係要 UM 住個咀笑，唔知話你幼稚好，定係話你低 EQ 好。你講 peninsula hotel 個作用係乜，你覺得 peninsula hotel 好巴閉？可以大我？

話時話，就係你 lee d 水平低的家長，各下學校形象真係。。。。。

babyriver

原帖由 Cara2006 於 08-9-27 10:29 發表
全香港的學校，點都會收雜費，簿費，
有 D 學校甚至雜費同簿費係分兩筆錢收。
先唔講 "尊貴" 的國際學校，就算係本地學校都有收雜費簿費的，部份都會收高至兩三千一年。
千幾或二千幾的 miscellaneous levy，又文具又 field trip ...

Cara2006
身為非牟利的教育大機構,點可以數目咁唔清唔楚架! 依家唔係多少錢的問題, 而係消費者的權益問題.我唔信你去 shopping 售貨員叫你比$1430, 冇breakdown 你問都唔問就照比! 既然行得正企得正, 問心冇愧又怕嘜比條數人體喎.

You are absolutely right, 我個心肝寶貝仔都交得比佢地 look after一整日, 我梗係 TRUST 學校啦! 你唔好抹黑我喎! 要我比錢都要比我知比D 嘜野? 係幾多啞. 你咁馨!!!! 唔通英基出糧比你?????????

你唔好咁stupid 啦! 講真千幾蚊都唔夠比我一家大細去Peninsula Hotel 食個Buffet 啦!! 都話唔係錢的問題囉.你明唔明嘜野係消費者的權益 " Consumer Right" 呀?????????? 你唔明我唔怪你, 因為連我地的Principal都misundersand 啦!!! 如果你見到佢悟該話比佢知 "it is nothing to do with trust, it is about open attitudes and consumer rights".  OKKKKKKKKKKKK..............

Anyway 學校終於在幾日前巳作出交代. 我想任何爭論巳無意思!!!!!!!!!

Babyriver

[ 本帖最後由 babyriver 於 08-9-28 19:55 編輯 ]

Cara2006

全香港的學校，點都會收雜費，簿費，
有 D 學校甚至雜費同簿費係分兩筆錢收。
先唔講 "尊貴" 的國際學校，就算係本地學校都有收雜費簿費的，部份都會收高至兩三千一年。
千幾或二千幾的 miscellaneous levy，又文具又 field trip 又游水，我覺得真係 "抵到爛"，唔明 d 家長投訴乜。
breakdown？不如問埋佢地囉個個月 $8000 學費的 breakdown 啦。
咁唔信學校，不如唔好讀喇，一年一兩千的雜費都唔信學校，點可能將孩子的將來交於佢地手上？

Wingba

I totally agree that RC has to give a clear breakdown on what they have charged us. Up till now the administration of RC is still not very satisfactory.

I support that they should charge a lump sum as it saves a lot of time and expenses or the school as well as the parents. But it is very very strange that they could not put down a number beside each individual item to give us a clearer picture.

Everybody knows that it is a rough estimate and I won't blame them for any discrepancy provided a reason is given.

The whole wrangle should not have happened. I just wonder why the Business Manager lacks the basic skill in making a clear presentation of his proposal.

Ciao

babyriver

原帖由 almom 於 08-9-11 23:27 發表



The school DID listen to parents.
I was one of the parents who suggested that they charge us a lump sum of fees for one year.
I am perfectly happy with the arrangement now.
In fact, I would even mo ...

Yes!!! The school did select to listen to what they wanted and reply to what they feel to reply. I am the same as you I paid my full school fee and all the other bills RC request. Why are they only happy to listen to you but not me or the other parent’s different opinions. I don't think RC treat all the parents equally. We just ask to be listened to and treated fairly. All we ask is a " CHOICE" for different parents needs. Did we ask too much???????

No matter how the bill is paid we still have a right to know the breakdown. It is my consumer right to have this information. If they give us a lump sum why can’t they let us know the breakdown. It should not be confidential. Is it “WRONG” to asked???????

babyriver

almom

That's what RC should learn; they are new and should listen to all parents concerns. I think team work is respect for other people’s point of view by listening and considering all the options. I hope the school will learn from their mistakes and things won’t be so stressful in the future.

The school DID listen to parents.
I was one of the parents who suggested that they charge us a lump sum of fees for one year.
I am perfectly happy with the arrangement now.
In fact, I would even more happy if the fees is absorbed into the school fee (like wisekid2007's school), even if that means that I have to pay a couple of hundred dollars more each month.

almom

Of course someone would say that there are so many FREE things in the school because the school has already charged for a high school fee.

However, it exactly suits the type of parents like me as it saves me a lot of time in various issues. It is very clear and I have no need to query the purposes of the money I paid for.

I would think the school would be more than happy to absorb the misc fees into the school fees . But for costs reasons, that would mean an increase of school fees. To make all those things "free", we are expected to pay ~$2000+ more of school fees per year (=$200+ more per month). I wonder whether the majority would agree. At least, not any ESF schools.

[ 本帖最後由 almom 於 08-9-11 23:04 編輯 ]

babyriver

原帖由 wisekid2007 於 08-9-9 10:36 發表
****If anyone has further inquiries, why not just ask the school for a breakdown? Instead of developing negative feelings over something really quite trivial, I think it's best to find out directly fr ...

Dear Wisekid

Thank you for your wise and fair comments; it is good to have someone’s point of view from outside RC. You have viewed things with an open mind and have provided good information about how other schools run things fairly and successfully. That's what RC should learn; they are new and should listen to all parents concerns. I think team work is respect for other people’s point of view by listening and considering all the options. I hope the school will learn from their mistakes and things won’t be so stressful in the future.

Babyriver

babyriver

Parents have been e-mailing the business manger since before the new school years started and he won't reply and face the request for a breakdown. If your figures are not official from the school, please keep it yourself and don't miss lead the public. If the school made things transparent then this issue would not be discussed on baby kingdom.

Twolovelyboys

hysterical,

Thank you for your simple and detailed breakdown.

It was a shame that this was provided by a RCHK parents and not the school.

原帖由 hysterical 於 08-9-8 23:06 發表
I think there is some misunderstanding regarding the levy. From my understanding, the levy includes the following:

1. Stationary kit (about $380): pencils, erasers, paint, crayons, color pencils, dr ...