大家覺唔覺得"大抽獎"真係唔係幾公平!

venuscc

呢個"抽獎"對於家長同小朋友呢講,真係[人生大賭博]!尤其而家D小朋友咁"矜貴",要父母拿佢地"命根"0既未來作"賭注",我覺得好殘忍.
難怪咁多父母想方設法為子女"謀後路"~~可憐天下父母心
長此下去,[升學]只會成為家長的"專利",非法途徑亦會越趨嚴重;而學生就變成附屬品,因為靠父母/兄弟姊妹關系(計分個PART)決定入學方向,分分鐘關系到自己0既未來及前程.
水平和能力去左邊?問問父母"把聲"大唔大啦!

越講越激氣,好後悔細個唔讀多D,爭取做"特首",否則我誓要X左呢個討厭0既"大抽獎___應該改名為:父母<大聲講>政策"!!

[ 本文章最後由 venuscc 於 08-8-7 13:18 編輯 ]

venuscc

哈哈!講得好精彩!
每個人0既意見都好實際,所以真系好難"十全十美"!
我地做父母0既,只能盡自己責任和能力,教育好子女!其實學校同成績,唔代表一個人0既全部,只系每個家長都希望創造最完美0既環境比自己個小朋友(呢個應該系社會進步的必然結果),因為而家人類越呢越文明,我們不能停留,只能前進!
新生代小朋友系要好努力,但系佢地何嘗唔系亦好幸福呢?先輩(前人)的艱苦創業,我們後人百世受惠,否則會坐食山崩,希望小朋友能明白呢個道理!
呢個BK真系好好呀,可以滿足我地C9仔D慾望,將所有開心快樂與煩腦不滿,盡傾盡訴!
點都好啦,我地要"努力"啊!

BoBoCute

My girl failed the first round and could not get into my Alma Mater, and was allocated to 4th choice in second round.
But I never blamed the system for being unfair.  It's fair in a way that everybody can enter the lottery.  The fact that I didn't get the prize didn't mean that it's totally unfair.
Every system has its pros and cons.

poohpooh1668

唔好話就近返學係point囉, 屯門咁大, 兩個網, 住屯門尾去到碼頭返學, 都要差唔多半個鐘輕鐵啦, 仲要加埋行, 搭校車, 佢分分鐘一架校車行晒個屯門, 搭一個鐘先返到屋企, 你話同出九龍讀有咩分別呢, 如果鄰近學校既, 就得2/3間, 咁不如一個村就一個網啦, d人腳程就到, 唔駛坐車, 咁就真係就近入學喇

bleung

Sorry for the duplication! Serve gone wrong!  Editor, please delete the extra messages.

bleung

I think the current scheme is OK because:

1. children go to school in their own districts - less travelling.

2.  Christians go to Christian schools, etc.  - Christians won't go to an Islam school, vice versa.

3.  Borther and sister go to the same school (saves time on pick-ups and attending school events, saves money on books)

It's those parents who believe 'famous schools' can work miracles on their average kids are the problem.  Family support is very important.  I am happy to raise an average but happy child with a balanced set of values.  If I can afford the extra effort to oversee my kid's studies, I will go for the first prize in the lucky draw.  If not, the ordinary primary school is good enough for me.  

From my limited observation (Kowloon side) in the tuition centre, the standards of ordinary schools (curriculum, teaching, hardware) are pretty much the same, t's the average kid with family suport that gets good grades and bright kid excels anyway.  Slow learner? Sorry, no place for them there, the remedial class is a joke.

I think the main problem is that there is not enough 6th form places for the qualified gradulates.  That's why we are so keen to get to a good primary school to secure a place in a good secondary school then on to AL then to universities.

bleung

I think the current scheme is OK because:

1. children go to school in their own districts - less travelling.

2.  Christians go to Christian schools, etc.  - Christians won't go to an Islam school, vice versa.

3.  Borther and sister go to the same school (saves time on pick-ups and attending school events, saves money on books)

It's those parents who believe 'famous schools' can work miracles on their average kids are the problem.  Family support is very important.  I am happy to raise an average but happy child with a balanced set of values.  If I can afford the extra effort to oversee my kid's studies, I will go for the first prize in the lucky draw.  If not, the ordinary primary school is good enough for me.  

From my limited observation (Kowloon side) in the tuition centre, the standards of ordinary schools (curriculum, teaching, hardware) are pretty much the same, t's the average kid with family suport that gets good grades and bright kid excels anyway.  Slow learner? Sorry, no place for them there, the remedial class is a joke.

I think the main problem is that there is not enough 6th form places for the qualified gradulates.  That's why we are so keen to get to a good primary school to secure a place in a good secondary school then on to AL then to universities.

bleung

I think the current scheme is OK because:

1. children go to school in their own districts - less travelling.

2.  Christians go to Christian schools, etc.  - Christians won't go to an Islam school, vice versa.

3.  Borther and sister go to the same school (saves time on pick-ups and attending school events, saves money on books)

It's those parents who believe 'famous schools' can work miracles on their average kids are the problem.  Family support is very important.  I am happy to raise an average but happy child with a balanced set of values.  If I can afford the extra effort to oversee my kid's studies, I will go for the first prize in the lucky draw.  If not, the ordinary primary school is good enough for me.  

From my limited observation (Kowloon side) in the tuition centre, the standards of ordinary schools (curriculum, teaching, hardware) are pretty much the same, t's the average kid with family suport that gets good grades and bright kid excels anyway.  Slow learner? Sorry, no place for them there, the remedial class is a joke.

I think the main problem is that there is not enough 6th form places for the qualified gradulates.  That's why we are so keen to get to a good primary school to secure a place in a good secondary school then on to AL then to universities.

rat

原文章由 silvia_ng 於 08-8-7 14:45 發表
我覺得就ok啦! 世事係冇可能兩全其美既。

如果冇左計分, 咁果d家長就話有大果個係度讀, 細果個冇得入又會嘈。但我覺得old boys & 宗教果d就唔應該計分啦....

我覺得教育局係要加派人手去check d 假地址好過....而 ...

無人可以比一個最好方法，妳話叫所有5-6歲小朋友考試派位，好就派去邊，唔好又派去邊，如果各收一半，咁學校都一早band 咗個小朋友係未"好"，成績唔好d家長未又嘈這樣快就釘死個小朋友係band 2 學生，妳話比家長自己選，咁學校便要有一個制度去選學生，咁同自行有乜分別，可能到時仲黑暗，而且無大抽獎，個個都死頼死叩名校，唔願去其他學校，咁到時申請額唔只超額百陪，千陪。咁這個又唔得那個又唔得，比錢讀當時係家長話事，但私學收唔收佢就係學校的事，佢話唔收妳肯比錢又點....咁現在係美國，英國，法國都係教育制度唔好，我親戚話係法國，d小朋友係唔要點讀書，但一上到highschool，就樣樣係考試，之前就功課少輕輕鬆鬆過一日，搞到d小朋友適應唔到，但考唔好又上唔到大學話佢小學同高校課程係兩個大極端。

[ 本文章最後由 rat 於 08-8-7 23:13 編輯 ]

silvia_ng

我覺得就ok啦! 世事係冇可能兩全其美既。

如果冇左計分, 咁果d家長就話有大果個係度讀, 細果個冇得入又會嘈。但我覺得old boys & 宗教果d就唔應該計分啦....

我覺得教育局係要加派人手去check d 假地址好過....而家佢地見有人舉報先check就唔係好夠啦, 有某d網特別多人報, 就一律check哂啦! 9月已經要報地址, 冇理由半年都check唔到呀....

我見之前都有一個topic係講, 有咩更加好既方法令個制度公平d, 但係d 回覆都係complain多, 冇一個實際更好既方法呢....

如果要自己報考, 咁就仲衰....要小朋友咁細個就要比父母迫, 又唔知有冇學校收。有d醒目既就考10間10間都收, 有d就考100間, 100間都唔收....咁並唔係一件好事呀....

venuscc

好GREAD呀,你地都講得無錯,N年前個PLAN唔WORK啦,而家個PLAN都唔全面,好似mymelody2003 話齋，自行分配個遊戲根本唔系比所有人玩，其實統一個PART都唔好得去邊，好多有能力0既家長可以搬屋甚至借個地址用，系名校網佔多個位，學位無變，爭位人數多左，搞到真系系個區住0既反而派唔番，要調去另一網（我見BK有D會員訴過苦），咁真幾慘架！

mymelody2003

今時不同往日了, 想當年我都係統一派位, 派到邊間就讀邊間   統一派位真係好似六合彩咁, 靠運氣, 都可以講係公平既.  但自行分配學位時就冇公平可言, 因為取決在於學校.

jessc

但如果返回以前各自各報校，記得我一日要去三間學校interview的苦況。還要這邊收了又要諗等唔等那間通知，結果臨開學前兩週先知自己讀邊間，做小朋友的我都幾唔開心。
(如果無記錯，當年是沒有派位機制)

其實現在做法有佷多弊病，但在沒有一套全盤而又不會令小朋友失去讀書權利的情況下，暫且維持現有做法。(請記着香港還有一小撮因為家庭理由而沒有讀幼稚園，但又要升小一的學生，記得當年機制是沒有該區學校收就要流放邊彊，有新聞報導過小一學生因同區學位不足而被迫由九龍城去屯門返學。)