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原文章由 wingyuma 於 08-8-5 16:17 發表
想問問~~
一個小朋友而家6歲, 學了2年鋼琴(不包樂理), 正常應該去到有幾級程度?
朋友的仔仔學了2年, 仔仔未考過級, 所以朋友覺得琴行不知是否拖課程. ...

要知道考級同程度唔係掛鈎的........有咁既程度,未必會考試,考到試,又未必會係果個程度........最緊要知道仔仔既實際程度,唔好用考左幾級黎評估佢既程度

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原文章由 wingyuma 於 08-8-7 12:48 發表

biban & 晴媽:
我聽朋友講老師一味教, 沒有任何通知要佢仔仔考試, 朋友對lee 方面又吾識及跟本不知進度, 所以在此問下各位, 謝.
考級是否家長提出 or 老師分配 ? ...

其實邊一方提出都沒有問題，家長可以就此問題與老師溝通一下，讓老師講下他的意見及小孩子的學習進度，這比起放在心中猜想為好！

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原文章由 晴晴的媽媽 於 08-8-7 09:45 發表
學琴達到邊級程度都好視乎小朋友平時練琴及對音樂的興趣，快慢不一，我覺得最緊要是小朋友有興趣才有動力去提高自己的程度。
我囡囡都係6歲，學了2年鋼琴，而家開始準備出年考三級。

biban & 晴媽:
我聽朋友講老師一味教, 沒有任何通知要佢仔仔考試, 朋友對lee 方面又吾識及跟本不知進度, 所以在此問下各位, 謝.
考級是否家長提出 or 老師分配 ?

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To be piano teacher

I am 14 years old and have got ATCL pass May, 08 exam.
When can I start teaching, I am interested to do so?

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原文章由 wingyuma 於 08-8-5 16:17 發表
想問問~~
一個小朋友而家6歲, 學了2年鋼琴(不包樂理), 正常應該去到有幾級程度?
朋友的仔仔學了2年, 仔仔未考過級, 所以朋友覺得琴行不知是否拖課程. ...

學琴達到邊級程度都好視乎小朋友平時練琴及對音樂的興趣，快慢不一，我覺得最緊要是小朋友有興趣才有動力去提高自己的程度。
我囡囡都係6歲，學了2年鋼琴，而家開始準備出年考三級。

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個個小朋友能力都唔同，我諗未必係琴行拖，反而好多時係有良心嘅老師想小朋友彈多d唔同類型嘅作品先，等小朋友大個d一次過考幾級。

原文章由 wingyuma 於 08-8-5 16:17 發表
想問問~~
一個小朋友而家6歲, 學了2年鋼琴(不包樂理), 正常應該去到有幾級程度?
朋友的仔仔學了2年, 仔仔未考過級, 所以朋友覺得琴行不知是否拖課程. ...

喜歡真正享受音樂

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想問問~~
一個小朋友而家6歲, 學了2年鋼琴(不包樂理), 正常應該去到有幾級程度?
朋友的仔仔學了2年, 仔仔未考過級, 所以朋友覺得琴行不知是否拖課程.

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Can you share what you have heard in the seminar?

原文章由 bill3284 於 08-8-1 23:48 發表
I will go to attend a talk by Mr. Chow Fan Fu, A famous writer in music area in 信報. He also a founder of Hong Kong Children's Choir and advisor of AYO. He will give a series of talks about Music and ...

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I will go to attend a talk by Mr. Chow Fan Fu, A famous writer in music area in 信報. He also a founder of Hong Kong Children's Choir and advisor of AYO. He will give a series of talks about Music and Life, why do we ask our kids to study musical instruments, for interest ? or for future .

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原文章由 Charlotte_mom 於 08-7-31 11:39 發表
哈, 我女個鋼琴老師都係咁問wor! 佢話如果我地想谷, 又唔同教法喇...

佢言下之意,谷三首歌仔,谷下scale............仲有唔知乜野,咁就好易合格.......其實彈幾首歌唔難,我細時教個妹,佢乜都唔識,第一次彈琴,佢都可以彈到首二級歌........所以淨係考試係無意思.......

不過係呢個topic講得太多呢d個人對考試既感受,錯覺好似講緊樓主咁......大家有興趣再談,不如另起topic..........

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哈, 我女個鋼琴老師都係咁問wor! 佢話如果我地想谷, 又唔同教法喇...

原文章由 Sindy 於 08-7-29 04:21 PM 發表

有時我都會覺得好奇怪......囡囡既兩個老師,係第一堂時,都不約而同地問,你為考試定為興趣.........?小提琴老師仲會問,第時係想做小提琴家定係興趣為先........原來我地有不同目標,教法都唔一樣 :ha ...

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原文章由 馬媽媽 於 08-7-30 09:53 發表
Talent children in music are difficult to be found while a real with heart good music teacher is also very difficult to be found.

我都搵好多年先搵到合我意既老師..........(暫時黎講搵到啦)

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In fact, if the teachers ask you these types of questions, they are very responsible and realistic. Training programme, time and arrangement should have differences if the eventual goals are different. Some children really don't have talent in music, why pushing too much??

But it is very sad that some music teachers always wish to give false hopes to the parents by saying that your children can reach which level by next year, etc. Then, they teach things in a very examination oriented way. Always playing pieces, exam pieces, scales; reluctant to practice aural, theory, etc.

I have heard some seminars which mention that the aural training at early stage can help children to reach higher level of performance in music. But in Hong Kong, not too much teachers, parents and children are willing to spend much time in this aspect.

Talent children in music are difficult to be found while a real with heart good music teacher is also very difficult to be found.

原文章由 Sindy 於 08-7-29 16:21 發表

有時我都會覺得好奇怪......囡囡既兩個老師,係第一堂時,都不約而同地問,你為考試定為興趣.........?小提琴老師仲會問,第時係想做小提琴家定係興趣為先........原來我地有不同目標,教法都唔一樣 :ha ...

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原文章由 馬媽媽 於 08-7-29 09:39 發表
Nowadays, many parents think that music is a tool to go into a famous school. That is quite common thinking but strange!! Music, itself, is an arts and is for people to enjoy (both listeners and playe ...

有時我都會覺得好奇怪......囡囡既兩個老師,係第一堂時,都不約而同地問,你為考試定為興趣.........?小提琴老師仲會問,第時係想做小提琴家定係興趣為先........原來我地有不同目標,教法都唔一樣

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Nowadays, many parents think that music is a tool to go into a famous school. That is quite common thinking but strange!! Music, itself, is an arts and is for people to enjoy (both listeners and players). If the child is not really genius in music, why don't let them enjoy the process more. Rather than pushing them to attempt a higher grade exam, which is meaningless to them.

Besides, if the child finds it is interesting to have music, it is worthwhile for their whole life.

And I find that some piano teachers in Hong Kong also have the same strange thinking by pushing the students to higher grade, for their higher fees, for satisfaction of parents' expectation and for their piano business. That is quite sad!! So have to choose the teacher carefully.

The above is my personal observation.

原文章由 Sindy 於 08-7-28 17:14 發表

可能你對我有些誤解......我不嬲都覺得彈考試歌應該同平時練開既唔會有大分別,所以要彈一年半年我覺得為考試而考試,極端既例子仲會停埋平時彈開既歌,為左一張紙又何必呢?

唔啱聽可以當時運高睇唔到啦,只係講下個 ...

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原文章由 breefan 於 08-7-28 15:02 發表
在有得選的情況下, 問下深淺程度, 也沒什麼大不了, 咁都講到咁"曉以大義", 未免太"言重"了。

我的小朋友也試過, 考四級時年紀較小, 個子又矮, 老師替他選了不用pedal 和手指不用張得太闊的曲目 --- 因此, 有得揀當 ...

可能你對我有些誤解......我不嬲都覺得彈考試歌應該同平時練開既唔會有大分別,所以要彈一年半年我覺得為考試而考試,極端既例子仲會停埋平時彈開既歌,為左一張紙又何必呢?

唔啱聽可以當時運高睇唔到啦,只係講下個人感受

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在有得選的情況下, 問下深淺程度, 也沒什麼大不了, 咁都講到咁"曉以大義", 未免太"言重"了。

我的小朋友也試過, 考四級時年紀較小, 個子又矮, 老師替他選了不用pedal 和手指不用張得太闊的曲目 --- 因此, 有得揀當然要揀, 揀首淺d (對彈者而言) 也無可厚非!!!

diamondring: 如果你要舊歌的考試書, 可以pm 我!

註: (為免話我"未到程度而為考試而考試") 當時我的小朋友已經彈過踏 pedal 的歌, 不過次次踏pedal 時都要成個人"迄"起身, 好搞笑!!

原文章由 Sindy 於 08-7-28 10:45 發表

ic, thanks ar

我個人認為,考得果級,如果對難少少既曲目都掌握得唔好/覺得有難度,其實即係未到程度,夾硬咁考法即係為考試而考試,未免失左學音樂既樂趣了 ...

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唔駛客氣,幫到便幫LAW,如有關鋼琴的問題,我識的也會答的

因為本身在這行很多年了,很多問題也遇過.謝謝!

小梓駿媽媽就係我！