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發表於 08-5-8 23:23 |只看該作者 |正序瀏覽 |打印
Student from IS normally take IB or GCSE exam,
Questions,
1) Which IS in HK take IB, which take GCSE?
2) What is different for University acceptance in HK or overseas?
3) Do you think is the trend tha most IS will go IB..
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發表於 08-6-6 21:58 |只看該作者
The list only for includes state school.


原文章由 matthewdad 於 08-6-6 20:18 發表
I cannot find those top private broading schools in england such as Eaton, Chartered house..etc. something is missing ?

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發表於 08-6-6 20:18 |只看該作者
I cannot find those top private broading schools in england such as Eaton, Chartered house..etc. something is missing ?

原文章由 Twolovelyboys 於 08-6-6 17:25 發表
This may be true for OXbridge because these universities have lots of money with long queues of students waiting to get in, therefore they are able to choose who they accept.  Also the reports general ...

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This may be true for OXbridge because these universities have lots of money with long queues of students waiting to get in, therefore they are able to choose who they accept.  Also the reports generally applies to UK students paying local fees.   

I think that apart from Oxbridge, it will generally be eaiser for overseas students to be accepted, whether they take A-levels or IBD, because they pay overseas fee (approximately 3 times the local fee).  




原文章由 thankful 於 08-6-6 14:59 發表
What attracts my attention are the following comments:-
"The trust found the number of pupils at the top 30 comprehensives who went to Oxbridge was just a third of what might be expected if based on a ...


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They charge me GBP7,800 per term.  They had better be good.

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回覆 #1 thankful 的文章

not to my surprise, private independant schools - you need to pay, are better than public schools.

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For those interested, latest video news on entrance exams for UK university candidates because so many students are getting 'A' grades in GCSE A-levels.  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/7436823.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7434463.stm

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原文章由 Twolovelyboys 於 08-6-3 16:56 發表
Just a couple of articles I read on the BBC website.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/7088628.stm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A446357

It seems most academic are aware of the the  ...


I did not have time to go to the links. But I believe there are more than merely educational issues when we are talking about a big change in curriculum.
Honestly speaking, I also do not see why any country should give up their own national curriculum totally.

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more information about IB Diplomas

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6295655.stm




原文章由 Twolovelyboys 於 08-6-3 16:56 發表
Just a couple of articles I read on the BBC website.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/7088628.stm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A446357

It seems most academic are aware of the the  ...

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Just a couple of articles I read on the BBC website.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/7088628.stm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/h2g2/A446357

It seems most academic are aware of the the "dumbing down" of A levels and the IB diploma is now becoming very popular.  But as usual the UK government is reluctant to change and adopt the IB diploma across Uk because it will mean lower their achievement targets.

Any comments?

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原文章由 matthewdad 於 08-6-2 20:40 發表
I do not quite agreed with you.  All the good grammer schools in England and Australia use exam to qualify the standard of kids.
In Hong Kong, SiS use Singaporoan system, AIS use Australian system, G ...


What did you not agree with me?
I never said exams are not of significance.
I never said exams are not important.
In fact, I have stressed that exams in IBD are part of the program and are extremely important.

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I do not quite agreed with you.  All the good grammer schools in England and Australia use exam to qualify the standard of kids.
In Hong Kong, SiS use Singaporoan system, AIS use Australian system, GSIS use german- Swiss system, ESF use English system and so on.

Local school use the English system but they speak more chinese.

Exam is still the system which is the most popular in the world. (in US, it is important to have hig score in SAT, ..etc)



原文章由 almom 於 08-5-29 18:52 發表
I totally understand your concern.

You have described the exact picture of the education under the local education system.

There are many reasons why the local system is "not working" (or at least,  ...

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Wow hot debate.  IB is not that popular in North America, but very so in Australia.  I think it is all personal choice what you like your child to do.  Just like choosing IS or Local.  Lots of local parents are going for IS but lots of westerns are putting their kids in local schools.  So, very personal.  For us you have to have SAT, I dont know now.

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I totally understand your concern.

You have described the exact picture of the education under the local education system.

There are many reasons why the local system is "not working" (or at least, is not working as good as 40 years ago). Yes, students/parents care too much about marks or scores. In fact, they probably care ONLY about marks or scores. I do not want to go too far in discussing why this is so.  I would only say that it is probably a habit or culture that has rooted very deep in our DNA for a few thousand years.

I do not believe that there are big concerns in international schools. Western curriculum, IB or non-IB, is totally different from local curriculum. The teaching methodology, the culture, etc are also different. If you are familiar with the set-up at international schools, you will agree that students in are all curious little fellows that want and enjoy to learn. Even in secondary level, students are encouraged to be curious learners. Lots of students in international schools have sat for IBD, GCSE or IGCSE exams, etc. for many years. I am sure all of them have at some point looked at some past papers. However, we never have as huge a problem with those students regarding their attitude towards learning.

My attitude with past papers would be part of a learning process. Exams are some of the pointers of how good a person is. Exams are as important and as significant as projects. And by checking out a couple of past papers, students would at least feel psychologically more at ease.

Past papers can be good or harmful, depending on how parents are teaching their children. As a parent, I think I need to feed my children with the correct attitude of how to face exams; and I need to help them prepare for exams.

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回覆 #156 almom 的文章

I see your point. Indeed we did the same approach in the past, but the fact is they are now gone too far and lack of the exploring sense/intention. Once had the past paper, they will just confine their thinking/approach and if the outcome is not the one they perceive, all student disappointed and blame the authority. It's a dead log and you can observe numerous example everday such as the lang. test result just announced. Auth. can deliberately "lower" the standard in order to avoid "noise". Exam. itself doesn't had problem, it's the student how to treat those exam. Together with those "expectation" from parent/employer/gov., are they actually acquiring the knowledge or just get a score?

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原文章由 father_ho 於 08-5-27 15:56 發表
Dear almom,

It's not always the case as I know some of the IBD school will not pass those information to their student as they don't want student too marks driven. Student should perform naturally an ...


I agree totally that students should not be totally mark driven. However, I do not agree that we have to go to the other extreme and deny the significance of exams and marks.

I would not be worried that students would be totally mark driven. Bear in mind that IB itself is not a single exam. Students cannot merely look at that exam, and ignore all other assessments and work, etc. And on the other hand, the exam is one part of what is going to contribute to their final score. Exams ARE as important as all other assessments and work.

Of course, acquiring knowledge is the ultimate goal of attending school. But exams, like assessments and projects, are some of the many chances when you can show how good you are. If we are asking our children to try hard in working on projects, I do not see why we should not ask our children to try hard with exams as well. And being well prepared is a way of trying hard and show your respect and attitude towards the ritual. I do not think that by merely looking at some past papers, it is going to drastically help raising the final score, but I do believe that by looking at past papers, a student can have a better idea of what exams look like. And this can also be something more psychological than practical.

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發表於 08-5-27 18:46 |只看該作者
Yes, for my understanding 30% is in project and 70% is in exam. They have to learn how to make a good project.

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回覆 #152 almom 的文章

Dear almom,

It's not always the case as I know some of the IBD school will not pass those information to their student as they don't want student too marks driven. Student should perform naturally and reflect what knowledge they did acquired for the past years. School will just provide the assessment structure, weighting, component and options. I do support it as it is the essence of IB concept.
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