ISF 弘立書院

kannes

請問ISF (弘立書院) 好唔好呀? 我睇佢WEB-SITE, 佢英普教學, 又行IB課程, any comments for this school???

brydenbobo

原文章由 Pooh_Pooh 於 08-3-20 18:41 發表
多謝有經驗的媽咪share..   
可惜上次開放日無去到呢..
但我都會幫囡囡報呢間 (如果考唔到CIS)

Any reason why you prefer CIS over ISF? I know both are very good schools, is it the reputation or any other reasons? Do you mind sharing?

LousyMum

MYP - in progress.  Target later this year
DP - next priority after MYP
PYP - next after DP

原文章由 justinamum 於 08-3-21 12:32 發表
any news on the IB authorization process for the MYP of
the school?

justinamum

any news on the IB authorization process for the MYP of
the school?

原文章由 Pooh_Pooh 於 08-3-20 18:41 發表
多謝有經驗的媽咪share..   
可惜上次開放日無去到呢..
但我都會幫囡囡報呢間 (如果考唔到CIS)

Pooh_Pooh

多謝有經驗的媽咪share..   
可惜上次開放日無去到呢..
但我都會幫囡囡報呢間 (如果考唔到CIS)

金瑪姬

我認識的ISF是很"單純"，我個仔話有個同學改自己花名做"金魚佬"，我即時好緊張，詳細了解之後，原來成班同學都唔知金魚佬係點解，當然，美國同中國來的2位，中英文老師就更加唔知，個班主任仲一齐叫佢 gold fish man 。

在 grade 7 家長中，其實有唔少都係各大學既職員、以及公務員，真正的大有錢人似乎佔小數，以我來說，我是追求學術同品格培養，而並非為貴族學校一詞，慕名而來。

另外，本人對 IB非常認同！

校規都好嚴，例如dress code都好嚴緊，其實校方仍然將佢哋當小朋友看待，仍然未到 Teen 的階段。 (grade 7)

cecilau

Lousymum,

聽到你咁講, 我都安心好多呀. 我都是普通中產, 只是唔鐘意本地的教育, 又唔鐘意無中文學的國際學校, 所以同仔仔選擇讀isf. 我都是死慳死抵俾仔仔讀isf 的. 你小朋友讀幾多年級呀?

原文章由 LousyMum 於 08-3-19 22:47 發表
Christf
其實我真係好唔明白點解你好似以前個wisekid2007一樣咁緊張呢個topic 呢﹖ 又浪費時間argue,  又唔開心。   點解唔spend more time去你個仔間學校的topic 呢?   如果你覺得warren + 其他家長太主觀支持學校﹐你 ...

kyliema2006

原文章由 LousyMum 於 08-3-20 11:48 發表
Kyliema
你小朋友讀間學校都是我心水之選。我去過他們的開放日﹐小朋友的表現都是very impressive。 可惜它在對面海呢。

Dear LousyMum,

對，揀選學校最好鄰近住宅，否則苦了孩子、更苦了家長。可以入讀ISF，雖然荷包緊了，但會是孩子之福。

LousyMum

Kyliema
你小朋友讀間學校都是我心水之選。我去過他們的開放日﹐小朋友的表現都是very impressive。 可惜它在對面海呢。

原文章由 kyliema2006 於 08-3-20 10:09 發表
雖然我不是弘立的家長，但我先生出席過上兩周的開放日，感覺非常好。因為弘立大多收取外籍學生或混血兒學生，就算是本地學生，其英語會話能力均很強，所以大部份學生的英語能力均不俗。但最令人印象深刻的，就是低年級學生（甚至是 ...

kyliema2006

雖然我不是弘立的家長，但我先生出席過上兩周的開放日，感覺非常好。因為弘立大多收取外籍學生或混血兒學生，就算是本地學生，其英語會話能力均很強，所以大部份學生的英語能力均不俗。但最令人印象深刻的，就是低年級學生（甚至是外籍小朋友）均能掌握良好的普通話，學校亦很注重中文書寫。相信其它國際學校均未能投放如此多的資源在中文教學上。

LousyMum

Christf
其實我真係好唔明白點解你好似以前個wisekid2007一樣咁緊張呢個topic 呢﹖ 又浪費時間argue,  又唔開心。   點解唔spend more time去你個仔間學校的topic 呢?   如果你覺得warren + 其他家長太主觀支持學校﹐你又有沒有想過可能是你自己太主觀反對學校呢。況其你又不是現成家長﹐你又點會比現成家長了解情況呢﹖  無人講過ISF是best school 或貴族學校﹐ 它只不過社會的[宿]影。 以我個班為例呀。 有住屯門﹐黃大先﹐香港仔的﹐也有南區獨立屋的﹐但大部份都是住mid-level 的打工仔﹐有什麼大不了﹐有什麼 show-off 唔 show-off呀﹖  

ps。 我講等人唱懷學校﹐等第時申請無咁大competition。。。 講笑即﹐係人都聽得出喇。。  Relax.

warrrren

I do quite like to discuss with you.  There are always some interesting points and useful reminders.

I think what you quoted were totally different issues.  I am not talking about showing off of the wealth.  Please understand what I meant "Mental Bullying".  This may not be the correct term in decribing this kind of behaviour and I don't know how to use the correct term.
Anyway, what I meant the "Mental Bullying" was that some spoilted wealthy kids actually requested some other students to do something for them and said that they would be rewarded financially or materially.  This kind of behaviour is totally difference from the showing off cases as quoted by you.

I agree that the kind of behaviours you described is wholly unacceptable.  Your friend'd better let the homeroom teachers be informed of those behaviours.

By the way, I haven't said that bullying is unique in ISF. Have I?  I just told some interesting parents about the REAL and ACTUAL situation occured in ISF.  All these cases were told by my friends whose kid is facing such problem day by day.  
I don't think my good friends would lie to me as most of the parents like those ISF parents in ISF here in BK forum that they would only tend to tell the "Positive" side to others in order to show off that their kids are studying in the "Best" schools they think. Right?

Of course I am not saying that your friend is lying.  Who am I to make such an allegation?  The very general remarks that I made in my earlier post are what they are - general remarks.  And, I hope I did not leave any impression that I "show off that their kids are studying in the "Best" schools." In fact, I will be the first one to admit that there are problems at ISF.  What I have been saying is I do not see any serious problems (I am one of those guys who do not sweat over small things).

Face the reality and every school has its own problems and there is no IDEAL school in the world.

Agree.  Absolutely.  No problem.  I am not looking for the "best" schools.  They are for sissies.  HA HA (sorry, just came back from a drink).

[ 本文章最後由 warrrren 於 08-3-19 18:21 編輯 ]

LousyMum

so far 我第一身接觸過的家長，沒有一個研究過 ISF 後話不 impressed 不喜歡的。唯一的negative factor 是學費貴。  反而好多話亞邊個邊個 個仔比人bully 到要轉校呀 + 其他不好的事等等的，我沒有一次可以證明到是真的，因爲每一次的當事人都總是朋友個朋友等, except one.  In that particular case, the mum told me that her girl got bullied but was quickly solved after the homeroom teachers talked to the one who bullied and the one who got bullied. And the mum was very impressed by how quickly the school solved that.  那次也不是太big deal.  那閒學校無呀？  另外，ISF的家長總括來講都算是好緊張好actively involved in the school's daily operation.  好多activities 都是家長負責的。 也可能因爲是這樣，所以校内好多事都好透明，好快可以傳出去。 這總比那些有大件事發生時校長都還收收埋埋個D學校呀。

最後，作為家長，由自私的角度出發，大家唱壞閒學校時，我個細B咪容易D入羅，競爭細D嗎。

ngmom

I understand that the School takes the issue of discipline very seriously.  Implementation of the School's discipline policy will take time and is often challenging due to the diversity of the School community, given that the school is relatively young and many of the students joined the School only recently after its relocation to the current campus. Different parents might have different expectations of the School. Some might think the school is too strict while some might think the school is not strict enough. It is not easy to reach a fine balance which can please everyone.

As far as I am aware (my kid is in Grade 2), bullying is not very common (and no more common than many other schools) and I have never heard of the so-called "mental bullying" cases.  I have checked with other parents of my kid's classmates and they are not aware of these "mental bullying" cases too. In any case, I don't think wealth is directly related to the moral standards of the students. Much is dependent on the quality of the parents, of whom the ones I know are all very caring and concerned about their kids' personal development and character.

warrrren

Thanks for the “mental bullying” explanation.  I now realise why I got all the blues this morning – it was not because Arthur Clarke left this world yesterday, but because I was first mentally bullied by that unsightly fat man who drove his shinny Maserati in front of me and subsequently by the news that someone just bought a condo in Tai Hang for $35,000/ft2, and yet further by the fact that the guy next door knows what ventriloquism means but I do not.

There may well be students from really rich families who occasionally talk about big houses, skiing in the Alps, private singing coach, etc.  The faint-hearted and the narrow-minded may tend to think that they are showing off their wealth.  Not necessarily, I can honestly tell you.  A boy from a poor family who has never been to Ocean Park may find it offensive that another boy tells him how fun Ocean Park is.  Is the Ocean Park going boy boasting about his parents’ wealth?  Maybe, and maybe not.  He may truly consider Ocean Park fun and he just wants to share his joy with his friend.  Jumping on the boy and accusing him of being bossy or boasting is foolish.  Quite a few people tend to believe that schools with super rich families (e.g. HKIS, CIS and ISF to name a few) have this “showing off” culture.  My own experience is very different from this general belief.  If you walk into any of the above-mentioned schools and boast around, Ha, you will be frowned upon.  Anyhow, it is up to the person to decide how to handle “mental bullying” – he can choose to grow out of it and be a better and more beautiful person; or he can choose to look only at the negative side and continue to play the victim’s role.  Kids are easy; parents sometimes are not.  At ISF kids from different walks of life learn and play together.  If you are worried that there are too many kids who are from the rich and famous families, I can offer you one comforting fact and one simple solution: The fact first – most of the ISF kids are from the working middle class. The chance of you bumping into a kid living in South Horizon is higher than you bumping into a kid who lives in a big house up the Peak.  And here is the solution – stop worrying and stop comparing the size of your apartment with that of others.  Whatever you are worrying about you will pass it to your kid.

As for bullying (whatever it means, so called physical or mental), I accept that there are always some kids who are more challenging than others.  But, I cannot imagine how boring and uninspiring a school is if there are not a few kids who constantly pose themselves as challenges to the teachers, other kids and their own parents.  Tell me if you know of any schools that do not have challenging students. I will avoid them like plague.  By the way, I am not saying that discipline is unimportant.  I do care about discipline and always think that respect and responsibility are the two things that all students and their parents must learn.  I have been at ISF for quite some time and I can see nothing seriously wrong with students’ discipline.  My greater concern is the over-concerned parents who are more keen on over-parenting than parenting - they remind me of Bree in Desperate Housewives.  Horrible species indeed.

brydenbobo

Oh no, this is serious!
Mental bullying can be real harsh, we are from working parents family and we sure do not want our kids to be targets.............please help to get more information if you can.