勝負只在十分之錯

vesley

我只有十分
我想大抽獎,也沒有太大的希堂。:cry:
但有 D  PARENTs 真是的,
我知你們很開心,但...不耍再show off了.
你們話你係old boys, 你們分數一定加分.
所以,你們話出線者 ,叻D?
我想未必公平!
如果人人平等去考,
平等去考,
我敢相信結果不會一樣!

[ 本文章最後由 vesley 於 07-11-25 23:49 編輯 ]

dsm

我地20分，抽唔到LS，但我會接受祂的安排 都是20分, 去年我們報了深水埗一條龍男校, 抽唔中, 晴天霹靂, 我雖接受祂安排, 但兩公婆都成個禮拜瞓唔着, 故對失意於 lucky draw 的家長, 這心情十分理解! 昨天我先生回來跟我說, 有同事抽中 st mary, 高興過升職, 他還在嘆息去年為何我們沒有被抽中, 可想而知仍有點唏噓, 縱是如此, 不該影響我們對子女的信心, 應盡快收拾心情, 謀而後動, 為第二三輪努力, 加油加油 :) :) :)

原文章由 gracechung 於 07-11-27 17:23 硐表
入得來討論的各位家長都係愛子深切，事實上，每個家長都真係勞心勞力，無論，子女入讀邊間學校，都冇損父母對子女的愛。

我覺得，唔好同人比較啦，別人唔成熟，成日show off咪有得佢，最緊要自己仔女健康快樂。

至於公平呢個問題，真係 ...

vesley

Thanks for all the sharing and care.
Actually , I am fine and I will keep on going for the Mark 6.

I am just trying to share a view for what I have Experience.Those backgrounded person always gets benefit.

Special thanks for:
w-y 王國長老 #24
佢都唔清唔楚就亂 comment.
本人當年就讀之小學, 係因為該校原址要清拆, 新校址要跨區, 故校方決定 "暫時" 停辦, 直至物色到更合適新校址就會復辦. 並非因為收生不足.

dsm #41 is very dear .

From one of the papa:
如果自已處於弱勢, 當然喊不公平, 但換轉係在優勢, 你會點? 還說不公平?
AS we are 處於弱勢, 當然喊不公平,so I am sharing my view with those處於弱勢, if u are 處於優勢, u can keep on picking your best .THank you!  

For mathew Dad,
I feel sick .
First U are telling me BAD SCHOOL
second, U are telling me not mature?
THird, U are telling me unhealthy family?
U ARE VERY FUNNY.
Please go to the benefial party,I am afraid my title is not your cup of tea to share feels.
xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox

[ 本文章最後由 vesley 於 07-11-27 18:10 編輯 ]

tungtungma814

I agree too

1st就算有20分都未必抽到, 到2nd都要再抽, 不過1st時都比人多左個機會抽, 咪當抵左羅, 我都冇抽獎命, 抽到機會好低, 唉, 唯有慳d等個女讀私校啦, 讀左書係一生受惠既

原文章由 andrewpapa 於 07-11-27 13:55 硐表
Agree with fishmum

其實個Lucky draw裏無分名校不名枚, 係計你同學校有幾多連繫.  同你是否第一次參加抽price.  若果不計這些, 那用甚麼來計先後.  難道真的random draw所有學校? 到時2萬幾人抽St paul co-ed? 2萬 ...

gracechung

入得來討論的各位家長都係愛子深切，事實上，每個家長都真係勞心勞力，無論，子女入讀邊間學校，都冇損父母對子女的愛。

我覺得，唔好同人比較啦，別人唔成熟，成日show off咪有得佢，最緊要自己仔女健康快樂。

至於公平呢個問題，真係冇人識界定何謂公平。坦白講，我係有神論者，但係我好清楚自己唔係果種可以虔誠既教徒，我份人好自我主心。但我依然循正常途徑返慕道班及領洗，為的是多5分。我同天主講：我直認我唔係真心入教，你唔好怪我，相反你應該體諒我，我e+為左個仔出賣自己的靈魂，你應該要讚賞我係好母親！

你覺得我呢個做法對真正的教徒公平嗎？傻的都知唔公平！不過，父母為左自己兒女，往往都係義無反顧！

無論你的子女讀咩學校，每一位父母都係值得尊重，各位要肯定自己的價值，唔好為呢d事唔開心。

人為的社會就未必有公平，不過呢，上天有眼，祂應該公平。我地20分，抽唔到LS，但我會接受祂的安排

ETL

Maybe Father and Mother have not give the presure on the kids. But when we carry that go to interview. They will konw that. They will see and hear. They will think why the other kids can do that best. Why they can dance or sing or speak a good English. But I can't. I have not sick, but I need take a leave from school and need go to see a so many unknow face ? Why each time when I go to new school . My Mother will ask me " You must need smile , You must speak loudly , You must answer all question. You must ..............." so many thing. That is persure. That persure is come from the Father and Mother. That presure is come from their action.  The kids is know that. They know to compare.

If you want your kids can go to band 1 school. Start on K1 or early, let the kids go to study that band 1 KG. Otherwise, you and your kids will have a 3 years happy life (K1 to K3). And 6 years UNHAPPY life (P1 to P6).

原文章由 dsm 於 07-11-27 14:53 硐表
In the  70-80 century, all the parants need to wait for a long queue to get applications form and all the kids need to take Is this fair ?

你令我想起小時候阿媽帶着我考遍名校, maryknoll, st mary..... ...

martse

原文章由 dsm 於 07-11-27 14:53 硐表
In the  70-80 century, all the parants need to wait for a long queue to get applications form and all the kids need to take Is this fair ?

你令我想起小時候阿媽帶着我考遍名校, maryknoll, st mary..... ...

看完dsm的分享, 真的寫進我的心裡, 是我們這班小師弟妹家長的寫照, 希望大家不要只看著現在的結果, 小一才只是個開始  

martse

dsm

In the  70-80 century, all the parants need to wait for a long queue to get applications form and all the kids need to take Is this fair ? 你令我想起小時候阿媽帶着我考遍名校, maryknoll, st mary.....還記得同場的女孩子百般武藝，會芭蕾舞又唸英詩，我只是普通家庭，小小五歲的我自覺被比下去....... 雖然如此，但阿媽沒有給我壓力，當年沒有考到什麼名校，依然愉快成長．．．． 之後我再沒機會到這些　”名校”，因我只得一個囝囝，但那紅磚屋內的佈置及佐敦校園內的小小聖母像依然記憶猶新，伴隨的還有父母為我奔波找尋好學校的一遍苦心，至今感激　－－－　去年，囝囝考小一，我們亦同樣奔波失眠，為的同樣是給囝囝一個較好的學習環境，７０年代ｂａｂｙ　ｂｏｏｍ，每個家庭最少三個孩子，我想信當年競爭不比現在小，所以公平與否我不敢說，作為父母只是為子女盡一點力，不論結果如何，我們所作的，小朋友會知道，會記得，不要給自己，給小朋友壓力，盡力而為，很多因素我們都不能控制啊！　入了小一還只是開始呢！ 祝願所有０８小一生入到心儀學校！

原文章由 matthewdad 於 07-11-27 07:40 硐表
The existing system is not the best but I think it is very diversify:
1. DSS or private school - they can select based on any creteris they like... old girls, donation, examinations ..etc. I know some ...

柳中原

可謂公平？
-　ｆｉｒｓｔ around 係睇同學校既關係.
- second around 大抽獎就睇運.
免費十二年教育係所有小朋友最終一定有書讀.
有錢,有關係既咪入名校,直資,私校law!
呢個世界根本就無公平既!!!

ETL

yes, agree. In these game, the problem is not Goverment , also not the children. The problem is come from the Father and Mother. Because, why their Grandfather/mother have not give them go to that band 1 school when they are child ? Why they didn't go to that band 1 school working ?

As one of my friend. She have a good job and good salary (over 30K per month). But she have quite the job and go to work a cleck on that band 1 school. Because she want her kids can study that school. Does someone can do that ? Sorry I can not do that. So I will accept these game and result. That is lucky draw game. Like the "Mark Six" Everyone also want a winner.

原文章由 andrewpapa 於 07-11-27 13:55 硐表
Agree with fishmum

其實個Lucky draw裏無分名校不名枚, 係計你同學校有幾多連繫.  同你是否第一次參加抽price.  若果不計這些, 那用甚麼來計先後.  難道真的random draw所有學校? 到時2萬幾人抽St paul co-ed? 2萬 ...

andrewpapa

Agree with fishmum

其實個Lucky draw裏無分名校不名枚, 係計你同學校有幾多連繫.  同你是否第一次參加抽price.  若果不計這些, 那用甚麼來計先後.  難道真的random draw所有學校? 到時2萬幾人抽St paul co-ed? 2萬幾人抽 DBS and DGS?? 大家又會叫政府增加名校學位, 反對冇份讀名校

實情只不過我地大衆想子女讀名校, 所以我地會從自己出發去看, 如果自已處於弱勢, 當然喊不公平, 但換轉係在優勢, 你會點? 還說不公平?

假若家長曾在母校出過力(例如任教, 畢業), 希望自已的子女有份分享, 難道不公平? 如果你跟巴士公司家屬說沒有乘車優惠, 可行嗎? 我地可以眼紅嗎? 如果你對名校不離不棄, 請在P2時再接再厲, 到時入咗仲開心

寄語下年參賽者,及提早準備.  

以上係我個人見解。 希望你唔好灰心

jsammi123

不如全港小一入學會考啦
不如全港小一入學IQtest 來排隊啦

SandyWu

原文章由 Charlotte_mom 於 07-11-27 12:35 硐表
呵, 原來2年前我都有出過聲
而家係旁觀, 兩年前我係當事人, 當年我都嬲架, 尢其是知道有人駛橫手, 點會唔嬲?.............都係果句, 算把啦, 呢個世界邊有公平架, 政府唔為自己plan, 咪自己為自己plan lor!
好似有家 ...

我好認同架,所以我同囡囡報左成共9間dss/私校做back up,就係因為我地得5分,一定係first round無行,尋日果然係落選,而lucky draw又要依靠運氣,所以自己做媽咪既,咪自己plan,而家我都90%會同阿囡讀私校,因為間學校係自己心頭好之餘,自己又無咩抽獎命,所以唔想俾人決定自己個囡既命運

991129

原文章由 rohoy2k 於 07-11-26 19:10 硐表
呢個係一個分餅仔遊戲,無分"勝負"嘅!
就算有,都係完全係父母心中嘅啫, 唔關小朋友嘅事.
邊個唔想出生係"李實發"屋企?想入邊度都得啦!
面對現實,係所得最好嘅選擇入面安排小朋友嘅教育仲緊要. ...

Agree, just depends on your lucky and no any relationship of the talent of kids....
Don't give up, remember that "沒有必讀之學校", 塞翁失馬, 焉之非福....

fishmum

Smartcar

我又覺得個遊戲都有佢嘅公平之處:

2.我沒有教師父母 - 試唸吓如果你係教師又或者係學校工作, 你都會希望你嘅小朋友响你學校讀書, 方便照顧吖嘛！

3.我沒有哥姊 - 咁即係大仔, 多五分。

4.我不是大仔 - 咁即係有哥哥姐姐, 入佢哋讀過嘅學校有分加, 如果係哥哥姐姐讀緊果間小學, 一定要收係咪!

6.我沒有入教 - 如果無入教, 咁揀無教會背景嘅小學, 咁咪唔會計宗教分囉。

以上係我個人見解。 希望你唔好灰心！我唸你嘅小朋友都希望見到你開心D架, 努力呀

原文章由 smartcar 於 07-11-27 00:14 硐表
係人都知十分即係零分，呢個遊戲一D都不公平，至少我覺有奇視成分：
1.我不是校董
2.我沒有教師父母
3.我沒有哥姊
4.我不是大仔
5.我不是住市
6.我沒有入教

擺明奇視，係人都知；呢個教育制度失敗之餘亦教人一出世個就虛偽，香 ...

fishmum

Vesley

過咗一日希望你心情好翻Ｄ啦！係BK人人都有發言嘅自由, 有Ｄ你仲意聽, 有Ｄ你唔仲意聽。 總之你唔好唔開心, 努力呀！

我同我好朋友兩年前都玩過呢個遊戲, 一齊幫亞女報同一間小學, 我亞女round 1入咗, 我朋友羨慕到不得了！結果佢亞女係大抽獎都入咗同一間, 好多人羨慕返佢！ 其實每個媽咪都關心自己小朋友, 報定Ｄ私校, 大抽獎可能入到你仲意嘅學校架!

Good luck!

原文章由 vesley 於 07-11-26 23:33 硐表
so ,without 人脈"這東西 we have to wait for the last cookie from the gov't.I will keep on my Mark 6.
TO BE HONEST, I AM JUST A BIT UPSET FOR HIS SCHOOL BUS FRIENDS AND PARENTS COMPARING MY KIDS .

For ...

[ 本文章最後由 fishmum 於 07-11-27 08:46 編輯 ]

matthewdad

The existing system is not the best but I think it is very diversify:
1. DSS or private school - they can select based on any creteris they like... old girls, donation, examinations ..etc. I know some kids get stright in to St Paul Co-ed, DGS and DBS, no need to have any interview
2. Main stram school : 50% by lucky draw; 50% by marking scheme.
3. International school - accpet based on creteria is also different from school to school. in general speaking, no foreign passport, no chance
We are mature people and can choose wharever we like.

A lot of kids get to famous school in the second round (lucky draw) and the parent is happy an dconsider the system is fair. Have you think of the organization of the school ? How can they handle kids from all mix.. We have to be more mature and play according to the rules.

Vesley- this web site is to share the feeling or happiness or upset. The aim is to help each other.. I am very upset with your way of posting. If I am the principle of those famosy school, I prefer to accept kids who lived in a healthy family and the parant is "mature" or "resoanable" enough  to handle unhappy matters. Not just complaint.. complaint and complaint..
if your school is still available, do you want to send your sons and daughters to this school ?
In the  70-80 century, all the parants need to wait for a long queue to get applications form and all the kids need to take Is this fair ?
Nowaday, life is easier, you have so many choice   for DSS , international school ..

瑩瑩老豆

係呀, 我見唔少家長根本就係為自己找學校.
然後要個仔女去讀. :-|

原文章由 yiwa 於 07-11-26 23:15 硐表
各位家長, 其實大家選校時只是憑我們的社會經驗, 知道那些是好學校 (直接一點是名校), 人望高處, 望子成龍,個個家長都想仔女入到我們心儀的學校. 但有沒有想過, 小朋友需要的是愉快的童年, 愉快的學校生活, 愛錫他的父母.小朋友的字典裡沒有"名校", 那只是家長的心魔. 沒有學校會教小朋友學壞, 所以全部學校都是好學校. 小朋友只需要父母絕對愛他便夠了.

andrewpapa

To smart car

understand your feeling. but you assumption is base on you also want your children got acceptance from a famous school, right?

If that is the case, so we post an exam to a five yrs old child or post an exam to the parent.  

Or should have a lucky draw with no point system.  If that is the case, the old boy and old girl will complaint.  eg.  suppose is 100 after 20 headcounts and now will be 100 after 20 headcounts.

system only benefit for some parties and left other behind.  I think it's better to think of how can we change local society attitude on chasing famous school only.  and how can we put more resources to unfamous school to make them competitive.

therefore I am not concured your statment "呢個教育制度失敗之餘亦教人一出世個就虛偽"

I am not going to start an argument, just want to express my point on your statement