陳守仁 (TSL) vs 聖瑪加利 (St. Margaret’s)

gordon

These 2 schools are quiet similar. 如果兩間都收你, 係會掂選擇?

Why?

Thanks
Gordon

catcatmom

WYmom

當你個小朋友入左傳統小學之後,(p3打後)你便知道有幾多時間讀課外書,如果鐘意閱讀既小朋友,今本就好唔夠時間! 唔鍾意閱讀既小朋友, 做完功課都訓教啦!(有 d 9:30就訓)  好多學校都規定同學帶書返學. DGS係做就一個好好既讀書環境, 但好睇小朋友本身&家庭有幾多支援,我識個畢業DGS既女仔,英文好一般!英文都credit 唔到,真係唔出奇喎!good hope 英文都超勁,睇番佢既website,英文會考一半人o羅A-C!      

原文章由 WYmom 於 07-10-23 18:26 硐表


Thanks a lot.  For TSL, I have a few friends with kids studying there in different levels from P.1 uptil P.6, all of them like the school.  For HKUGA, I won't consider as it is too far.

I know you  ...

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gordon

1 or 2 from BK. Feedbacks are positive. Feel lucky to study in school. Great improvement in English...

Go to St. Margaret's school's topic, you can ask them for more infos. Before I confirmed this school, I have contacted one of the mommy in BK for almost half year.  Her daughter is studying in P2 now. She is very kind and helpful.

hv u paid the registration fee yet?

gordon

原文章由 badongo12300321 於 07-10-23 18:22 硐表
gordon,

我本身也是偏向鍾意sm 多d, 佢地辦學理念提到會去培養學生學習既興趣, 而且佢地既師生比例也比較理想, 這都是我喜愛的.

請問呢到有冇家長識得一d 朋友或親戚既子女正在o係sm 到讀緊小學架呢? 可以大家一 ...

WYmom

原文章由 catcatmom 於 07-10-23 17:35 硐表
WYMOM

無呀! 一個都唔識! 唔好話高年班, 低年班都唔識! St M. d 家長全部係web上兜答番來, 我似e+我同你o甘!我識你WYMOM,你識我係catcatmom .

你小朋友讀TSL或者港大同學會, 我幫你8多吓, 都得!

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Thanks a lot.  For TSL, I have a few friends with kids studying there in different levels from P.1 uptil P.6, all of them like the school.  For HKUGA, I won't consider as it is too far.

I know you like SM very much,  just feel that it is better to get more info. about upper primaries and secondary as it is not easy to change school.

I won't think that traditional approach cannot develop kids' interest in reading, all depends on how the school teaches.  Even DGS is very traditional, but their students always carry a book with them to read.

badongo12300321

gordon,

我本身也是偏向鍾意sm 多d, 佢地辦學理念提到會去培養學生學習既興趣, 而且佢地既師生比例也比較理想, 這都是我喜愛的.

請問呢到有冇家長識得一d 朋友或親戚既子女正在o係sm 到讀緊小學架呢? 可以大家一齊分享下嗎? 佢地o係學校學習得愉快嗎? 我最關心既學校師生關係好嗎? 因為佢地真真正正感受到學校既情況如何, 我要既係真實野, 如果有既, 可以分享一下俾大家嗎?!

catcatmom

WYMOM

無呀! 一個都唔識! 唔好話高年班, 低年班都唔識! St M. d 家長全部係web上兜答番來, 我似e+我同你o甘!我識你WYMOM,你識我係catcatmom .

你小朋友讀TSL或者港大同學會, 我幫你8多吓, 都得!

原文章由 WYmom 於 07-10-23 17:09 硐表


catcatmom,

Do you know any kid studying in SM for a few years?  I seldom hear advice from upper primary SM parents, and the school also only focus to talk about P.1 to 3, and then their secondary s ...

WYmom

原文章由 catcatmom 於 07-10-23 16:51 硐表
WYmom

ST.M & TSL 兩間都係傳統, 不過採取活d教學方式, 比起一般津貼小學, 小朋友會有多d機會發言. 每次見陳守仁既爸爸,佢都話亞女間學校係傳統小學,(但佢都好鍾意間學校).

假設你係搵少功課,少壓力,多d時間睇書 ...

catcatmom,

Do you know any kid studying in SM for a few years?  I seldom hear advice from upper primary SM parents, and the school also only focus to talk about P.1 to 3, and then their secondary students are ...

That's why TSL appears to be better.

catcatmom

WYmom

ST.M & TSL 兩間都係傳統, 不過採取活d教學方式, 比起一般津貼小學, 小朋友會有多d機會發言. 每次見陳守仁既爸爸,佢都話亞女間學校係傳統小學,(但佢都好鍾意間學校).

假設你係搵少功課,少壓力,多d時間睇書既小學,我相信兩間學校都唔係你杯茶,p3打後會好忙.
我想:培僑,浸小,大港同學會,臻美......(佢地學國際學校模式辦學, 雖然無左ib. ) 朋友囝囝(p4/5)讀大港同學會,有好多時間睇書, 每日無mud功課.
這些學校講創造思維,講能力唔係講成績!

原文章由 WYmom 於 07-10-23 15:53 硐表


I wonder if some parents of upper primaries (P.4 to 6) can give some advice about SM as the school will switch to traditional teaching and large size class after P.3.  Do the students like reading a ...

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JAMmama

原文章由 G-Ma 於 07-10-18 11:04 硐表
st. margaret's 既校舍同隔離英華比就一定細架啦, 英華一級5班, 35-40人一班, 剛是小學已經有1000到1200人, 仲未計中學, 梗係要大d啦.  st. margaret's 小學每級只係得80個學生, 小學生總數都只係500人以下,  而且中 ...

路過.....
現在英華每班最多只得32/33人一班, 所以並不是你所講的這麼多人!

轉直資後, 只收30人一班, 佢地唔會多收人數, 因為想小班教學!

WYmom

原文章由 Cartier 於 07-10-23 15:42 硐表


I prefer TSL to SM not because of PLK, but just do not have confidence in SM.:-|

I wonder if some parents of upper primaries (P.4 to 6) can give some advice about SM as the school will switch to traditional teaching and large size class after P.3.  Do the students like reading a lot?  Do they have a lot of homework?  Do they need to take English public exam such as Cambridge?  Are there many students need to repeat in P.5?  As I have experienced, P.1 to 3 can be quite relax, but pressure and challenges increase more and more from P.4 to 6.

Thanks.

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Cartier

原文章由 gordon 於 07-10-23 12:23 硐表
TSL 同 st. margaret's係好似, that's why I post this topic here. 但唔知掂解, 人人都prefer TSL more than St. Margaret's. 因為 po leung kuk個名?

St. Margaret's 一直都係我心儀既學校. For TSL, 上星期五,  ...

I prefer TSL to SM not because of PLK, but just do not have confidence in SM.:-|

Could you please share any comment on the spoken English of the TSL teachers ?

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kyliema2006

原文章由 catcatmom 於 07-10-23 11:58 硐表
木土土

ST. M 都有好多籍學生, 一班有4/5個;TSL 一班6/7個(朋友個女果班), ST. M topic有個媽咪個小朋友係mix, 爸爸係英/美國人, 識講中文. CKY多唔多外籍學生就唔知啦!



...

CKY外籍學生較少。

gordon

TSL 同 st. margaret's係好似, that's why I post this topic here. 但唔知掂解, 人人都prefer TSL more than St. Margaret's. 因為 po leung kuk個名?

St. Margaret's 一直都係我心儀既學校. For TSL, 上星期五, 我地去咗interview, 我同老公都唔鍾意間學校, 盡管我老公同叔仔係該校前身既畢業生, 亦都有相識既有力人士, 但校內老師講英文既quality 就真係 (The above is just my opinion after the school interview).

原文章由 木土土 於 07-10-23 00:02 硐表
TSL with students from other countries 是其一大賣點 (相信CYC or ST. M 都唔多).

學生自小在多元化環境學習, 與不同國籍小朋友相處, 得定會比失多! At least 學會不歧視少數族裔人士(例如說那些孩子沒有教養).

...

catcatmom

木土土

ST. M 都有好多外籍學生, 一班有4/5個;TSL 一班6/7個(朋友個女果班), ST. M topic有個媽咪個小朋友係mix, 爸爸係英/美國人, 識講中文. CKY多唔多外籍學生就唔知啦!

原文章由 木土土 於 07-10-23 00:02 硐表
TSL with students from other countries 是其一大賣點 (相信CYC or ST. M 都唔多).

學生自小在多元化環境學習, 與不同國籍小朋友相處, 得定會比失多! At least 學會不歧視少數族裔人士(例如說那些孩子沒有教養).

...

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木土土

TSL with students from other countries 是其一大賣點 (相信CYC or ST. M 都唔多).

學生自小在多元化環境學習, 與不同國籍小朋友相處, 得定會比失多! At least 學會不歧視少數族裔人士(例如說那些孩子沒有教養).

Although TSL use traditional syllabus (i.e. sane acedamic standard as local school), unlike most traditional school, mstudent with good or bad acedamic result are very happy for their school life. Teachers will not discriminate those students with result not good.

Another point, 仲有free法文/日文學, 咁既學費, 超值!

原文章由 CheCheMan 於 07-10-18 13:07 硐表
Sorry for making some parents feel worry abt my comment on TSL.

As told by my friend that her daugther got a place there around 3 years ago.  As at that moment, some students from other countries, li ...

木土土

TSL 都係雙班主任! 現時 P.1 是 30/32 人一班

原文章由 HKQQbaby 於 07-10-20 20:44 硐表
兩間學校各有所長 且一分錢一分貨
TSL 學費便 因師生比例較SM高 (35人/班,1班1個班主任, 全校只有幾個net)
SM 學費貴1倍,因初小, 中英數2班80人分3group上堂, 27人/group,每班雙班主任, 共有12個net, 且1/4外籍學生. ...

木土土

我覺得純以升中比較, sm 不會比 tsl 有好處.

因 St. Margaret's 中學唔出名, 如果在tsl讀得唔太差, 我覺得升中要考入St. Margaret's 中學無mug難道. 如果在tsl讀得好, 很多band one (include those elite ones)中學有機會

catcatmom

rubymo928

其實十問九唔應,又係好唔開心既! :cry: 我當年都打好多次電話去學校(私校&dss)問d資料, 我記得TSL&英華小學d職員態度最差, (最好禮貌係油塘果間dss) TSL果個仲好寸,係度讀既朋友話佢地係甘+啦,名校o亞嗎!  而英華果個又係mud都唔知!不過無影響我對2間學校既觀感. 我返而覺得過程唔重要,最重要係結果.   

不過兩間學校小朋友考到任何一間,都好叻! 係真既!

原文章由 rubymo928 於 07-10-22 16:28 硐表


catcatmom,

觀人於微, 我以同一方式去睇每一間學校.  向 interview 上相信好多 bk 家長都認同 TSL 安排 interview 流程好好.  我亦因為此點對 TSL 加分.

一間學校安排 interview 是好與否, 我覺得唔應該以學校 ...

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rubymo928

原文章由 catcatmom 於 07-10-21 20:41 硐表
rubymo928

我明你意思, 因這個是小一入學topic, 因我今年未interview,我係度不斷打聽, 我應該甘講 "st margaret既open day 都好體貼家長,點解小一入學試甘差." 我仲以為好似德望甘安排得好差!
陳守仁有二千幾人上w ...

catcatmom,

觀人於微, 我以同一方式去睇每一間學校.  向 interview 上相信好多 bk 家長都認同 TSL 安排 interview 流程好好.  我亦因為此點對 TSL 加分.

一間學校安排 interview 是好與否, 我覺得唔應該以學校收生多小去 measure.  系咪多人 apply 就要安排的好 d, 小人 apply 可以唔使安排好呢 ?   

你講 TSL 人多入表, 所以唔可以每個打電話通知 interview, 所以TSL 用一個合適方法去處理 lor.  每間學校都要用好方法去安排 ma.  

我唔介意學校用 tel 通知, 但系你要有清楚 instruction.  家長有疑問打去學校問, 對方只系答 "你等電話啦".  要帶物野去 interivew "唔清楚".  見完無人同你講 "你地可以走得 ga la".   sorry , 我唔認為學校應有的安排 lor.

當然對於某些家長會唔覺得好大問題.  最主要睇番學校教育, 師資等等 ... 我唔反對, 因為每個人有自己觀點.

德望我無入 form , 無去 interview , 只系在 bk 上睇到其他 bk parents 的評論.  但系咪 SM 要同 d  比佢安排得差過佢的學校去  compare 呢 ---- 好彩, 阿某水重差過我 wor, 我都唔系好差呀 !

其實我都為 SM 唔低, 點解 interivew 方面唔安排得好 d 呢 !

Cartier

兩者相比, 我會揀TSL.

印象中St. Margaret 在我中學年代是band 5學校, 而家辨直資小學估計不外乎為挽救中學部. 早幾年開始留意新辨直資學校, 因為每間的辨學理念都好出色, 完全比你感覺到什麼是填鴨, 什麼是教育.
可惜, 留意了幾年新辨直資的動向, 說一套做一套的, 不停轉老師的, 兩年轉三個校長的, 都是令我失望. 所以今時今日, 我對於果d 口講的理念已經無動於中, 完全要睇結果.


相對TSL以往幾年的中學派位成績不俗, 而且係保記系列, 會比較有信心.
無可否認, TSL學生的英文口音好本地. 只要pronounciation正確, 我認為冇問題. 相反nat. teacher若不是操正統英式口音, 亦唔見得係好事.
而且, 好多學校的nat teacher流失量相當高, 今天有5位, 下個term走剩一位, 咁又點呢?


唯一係擔心TSL老師的英語詞彙有限, 咁小朋友就真係要多睇書, 英文台或出面再補英文oral.

至於紀律問題, 完全唔係問題, 每個小朋友性格都唔一樣, 一般活動教學之下出黎的學生都比較坐得冇咁定, 又說話多多, 問題多多, 但唔代表佢地學習有問題, 如果因為被classified為紀律差, 我反而會質疑老師的實力.