'ottostein'琴,可唔可以比d議見?

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我係'tomlee'看過呢個牌子.好想買,但唔知買korea(ou121)做的或indonesia(oj121)做的好.price相差$4,000.00.個sales話兩部都可上到8級.pls give me comments,thanks.

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Re: 'ottostein'琴,可唔可以比d議見?

我係半年前係tomlee買

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Re: 'ottostein'琴,可唔可以比d議見?

貞子,
thank you! 你個部 ou121sc,應是made in korea.
你的comment幫到我好大忙.

thank you!

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Re: 'ottostein'琴,可唔可以比d議見?

My friend's daughter (who's a grade 8 student) has a Ottostein piano, but her comments are the keytouch is too hard, doesn't feel good at all. And the sound is not good too. So she always goes to rent piano room to practise even though she's got a Ottostein at home.
So, I guess you can try another brand instead of Ottostein.

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Re: 'ottostein'琴,可唔可以比d議見?

johanna,
do you have any good suggestion?

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Re: 'ottostein'琴,可唔可以比d議見?

其實真係個人既喜好啦!我個女的琴老師都話'ottostein'水準唔差,價錢合理,yamaha亦很好.但價錢比較貴.我本人比較喜歡以上兩種音色.因為曾去過kk music 試過kawai.音色可似比較soft d.我自己就鍾意sharp d.

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Re: 'ottostein'琴,可唔可以比d議見?

Last month, when my daughter went to take piano exam, as we went an hour earlier, we rent a piano room. Wa..wa... my daughter just played 5 minutes and then said all keys are loose, how to play? I cannot imagine the rent piano quality is so worse because my home piano has already been used 9 years.

So, what Ottostein piano your friend has? Used how many years? I can't imagine rent a room is better than the home owned one?

If your budget around $23K, you can consider my existing brand - Karl Muller U108.

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Re: 'ottostein'琴,可唔可以比d議見?

Dear all,

any comments about the YOHAYI in 青苗?
其中一部折實15,000.- (新的,design in germany and by japan trational made, china裝) 包12年保養(quite attractive).

我又上去個倉看到一些陳列/舊琴,都有十年保養(10,000.-以上的),

其中一部Yamaha U1, cost HKD19,000.-,
一部kawai 高身, cost HKD18,000.-
另一部Yamaha 低身的,cost HKD12,000.-

另係tom lee見到一部Yamaha, 23,000.- LU90, cost 23,000.- (新旳).

以上都是我所考慮的,any advice???小兒剛開始學琴的.

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發表於 04-10-25 13:24 |只看該作者

Re: 'ottostein'琴,可唔可以比d議見?

9 years old Karl Muller U108 cost for $23k?! It sounds joking, $23k is enough to buy a brand new piano with excellent quality.

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Re: 'ottostein'琴,可唔可以比d議見?

johanna,
我見你常介紹個間'joy & fun music in sheung wan,我個friend 都有去睇過,佢地只放部左一部'kawai kx-21(made in china)新琴 $21,000.00.請問你係唔係買左呢個model,個sales 話玩到8級.如真,即其他牌子$20000餘,亦有可能玩到啦!

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發表於 04-10-25 17:31 |只看該作者

Re: 'ottostein'琴,可唔可以比d議見?

sisima,

Yes, I've bought the KX-21. Personally, I think it's quality's good, and the price is much cheaper than many brands.
As Joy & Fun is KAWAI's branch dealer, they brought me to KK Music (HK's dealer) godown to choose the KX-21 that I've bought. So, if anyone wants to buy other models, they can bring you to choose the piano, that's why they don't display too many pianos in their shop. It's price is cheaper than that in KK Music's display shops, the reason is they are KK's dealer.
It's up to you to choose other brands, but the Joy & Fun's sales told me that European pianos don't suit HK's humid weather generally, the paino would easily got stuck, unless it's careful maintained. And the trade-out price of european piano is extremely low (around 30%), if you want sell it back to paino shop.
No comment for Korean and Indonesian pianos.
Hope the above would help you.

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發表於 04-10-25 22:12 |只看該作者

Re: 'ottostein'琴,可唔可以比d議見?

I also visited Joy & Fun Music Center earlier, I found that the price for the Kawai KX-21 is HK$21,000, the same price as at KK Music, so I wonder why you said it's cheaper in Joy & Fun?

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Re: 'ottostein'琴,可唔可以比d議見?

原本我自己想上joy & fun music睇下,因唔得閒,我就叫左我個friend上去睇過,因佢係住西環,佢自己都想買部琴,二手或新琴(要平).但佢話上到去只係得一部新琴kawai kx-21 show出黎,再問過sales有無二手琴,佢就介紹近reception有一部二手琴.其餘兩部二手琴分別放在兩個房內,其實這兩間房係似比人練琴的地方,基法佢地係主力sell個部kawai kx21的,我個friend重係到想更買唔買!

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發表於 04-10-26 11:58 |只看該作者

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I guess Joy & Fun's price is negotiable, you may negotiate for a lower price, see if they accept. But I didn't do that because I think $21k (for brand new) is not expensive at all. My friend's visited KK Music and try to negotiate the price with the sales, but the sales said all the prices are not negotiable. Also, I've got 3 free tuning for buying at Joy & Fun. However, KK Music just offers 2 free tuning.

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Re: 'ottostein'琴,可唔可以比d議見?

Johanna,
Is Kawai KX-21 equivalent to Yamaha PE model? I think the price of $21000 is not cheap at all since I can buy Yahama PE model of similar price. Is it a high upright piano or not ? Is it made in Japan or not? For Yamaha, only U1 model or above is made in Japan. How about the price of a second hand Kawai sold at there? I am now considering of buying a new piano or a second hand piano. Please advice.

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Re: 'ottostein'琴,可唔可以比d議見?

lizaliu,

I think Yamaha has no PE series, you may check it out at tomlee. I remember tomlee's sales told me that PE3 means Ebony Polished with 3 pedals, but not the model no.
KX-21 is equivalent to U1 size (high upright), Joy & Fun's sales told me that the paino parts are all made in Japan, and it is assembled in China, that's why it's cheaper. Another model K-25E is also equivalent to U1, it's made and assembled in Japan, but it's cost is much expensive, around $35,000. I guess the price difference is the place of assembly. I'm not very sure about their 2nd hand Kawai / Yamaha's price, should be around $15,000 to $19,000. I just remember they are very new, and display pianos in Japan.
You can call 21809659 to check.

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發表於 04-10-26 16:44 |只看該作者

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Johanna,
Thanks fo your advice. If KX-21 =U1, it is worth to buy Kawai. I won't mind whether it is assembled in Japan or not. To buy a second hand need to buy $15000 to $19000, of course I will buy a new one. In fact I like the sound of Kawai more as it is much thicker than Yamaha. The sound of Yamaha is too sharp. Also the key boards touching of Kawai is harder than Yamaha. Long time ago there is a famous brand called Karl Muller but now there is no advertisement of it. Is it good ?

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發表於 04-10-26 17:35 |只看該作者

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lizaliu,

Sorry, I don't have much information on Karl Muller. What I can tell you are european pianos don't suit HK's humid weather, and the trade-out price is low.

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ming2 ,

please see PM