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發表於 05-12-1 17:20 |只看該作者

學小提琴會影響體型???

Any comment/experience?

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發表於 05-12-1 20:30 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

何出此言?


THRY 寫道:
Any comment/experience?

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發表於 05-12-1 22:48 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

Other than a bit fat, I don't see there is anything wrong with my daughter. She has learnt violin for 2 years.

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發表於 05-12-2 03:38 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

絕對不會

學小提琴主要是老師有否教授正確姿勢

老師有否能力解釋姿勢的重要及原理!

    

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發表於 05-12-2 13:56 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

As my son learnt Violin for 2.5 years, I found his 背脊肩胛骨右邊比較 '特' , is this caused by 夾琴?

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發表於 05-12-2 18:26 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

會!

學得愈耐,男的外型愈蕭洒,女的愈有氣質!

李傳韻除外!

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發表於 05-12-2 18:29 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

你用右肩夾琴?

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發表於 05-12-2 21:33 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

學小提琴又會否影響聽覺呢?請指教!

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發表於 05-12-2 23:23 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

Hearing ability is diminishing once you came out from your mother's (? matrix?)

The higher the frequency, the sooner its sensibility deduced.

I've once checked the sound pressure level while playing violin, for playing simple pieces or just made any sound. it is around 88 - 93 dbA,

For your reference, labour department sets 85 dbA (leq) to be something needed to have ears protection, 90 dbA (leq) is a must to provide hearing protection.

I make it simple, leq mean 8hrs daily exposure, so if you expose in 85 dbA enviroment for 8 hrs, it means you need hearing protection, otherwise permanant damage will be occurred.

For easy reference, each 3 dbA increase should reduce half of the exposed time, that is 88 = 4 hrs, 91 = 2hrs, 94 = 1 hr.

I wonder any kind of musical learning has adverse effect to hearing ability, sound level of violin is quite high since it is quite close to your ears, that's why Beethoven finally became deaf. (not related to violin)

Don't let me scare you, you won't play the violin consecutively for two hours, or even one, since half of the time you play didin't produce sound. I mean even you play for two hours, my estimation is that only half of the time induces excess sound pressure level, that is 1 hr.And the smaller violin ususally produces weaker sound.

Sorry never checked for the smaller one such as my son's one since the meter is very expensive and can't take it home, but i do take my own one to office for measurement.

Anyway your hearing ability is decreasing once you were born, no more harm than wearing  headphone all the time when kids become teenagers.

My two cents only.

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發表於 05-12-3 01:35 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???



Thanks for the scientific explanation !

(mother's womb)

I thought Beethoven was deaf becos of excessive mercury level ?

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發表於 05-12-3 03:46 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

ykwong 寫道:
Hearing ability is diminishing once you came out from your mother's (? matrix?)

The higher the frequency, the sooner its sensibility deduced.

I've once checked the sound pressure level while playing violin, for playing simple pieces or just made any sound. it is around 88 - 93 dbA,

For your reference, labour department sets 85 dbA (leq) to be something needed to have ears protection, 90 dbA (leq) is a must to provide hearing protection.

I make it simple, leq mean 8hrs daily exposure, so if you expose in 85 dbA enviroment for 8 hrs, it means you need hearing protection, otherwise permanant damage will be occurred.

For easy reference, each 3 dbA increase should reduce half of the exposed time, that is 88 = 4 hrs, 91 = 2hrs, 94 = 1 hr.

I wonder any kind of musical learning has adverse effect to hearing ability, sound level of violin is quite high since it is quite close to your ears, that's why Beethoven finally became deaf. (not related to violin)

Don't let me scare you, you won't play the violin consecutively for two hours, or even one, since half of the time you play didin't produce sound. I mean even you play for two hours, my estimation is that only half of the time induces excess sound pressure level, that is 1 hr.And the smaller violin ususally produces weaker sound.

Sorry never checked for the smaller one such as my son's one since the meter is very expensive and can't take it home, but i do take my own one to office for measurement.

Anyway your hearing ability is decreasing once you were born, no more harm than wearing  headphone all the time when kids become teenagers.

My two cents only.


小提琴絕對不會影響聽覺
反而能強化聽覺
小提琴有上弓落弓
有強有弱
小提琴既聲音,不會經常維持高水平
小提琴難的地方
係細聲既部份
細聲既層次感係小提琴演奏時最難表達得完美
當中有很多技巧亦係係當中磨練出來既!!
    

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發表於 05-12-3 09:06 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

ykwong 寫道:
會!

學得愈耐,男的外型愈蕭洒,女的愈有氣質!

李傳韻除外!


真嘅?
上咗年紀先學得冇?

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發表於 05-12-3 10:15 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

引文:
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ykwong 寫道:
會!

學得愈耐,男的外型愈蕭洒,女的愈有氣質!

李傳韻除外!
--------------------------------------------------------

真嘅?
上咗年紀先學得冇?


Yes, of course.  I am a living example. HaHaHa      

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發表於 05-12-3 11:08 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

Dear Ykwong,

My son is using left shoulder for '夾琴', 夾琴時左肩會向上提升, 至右肩向下, 日子有工, 產生右背肩胛骨比左邊(特), that's my assumption only, any comment

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發表於 05-12-3 12:31 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

Hi THRY,

Your son's should never hold the violin with a raised left shoulder (the violin should rest on the collar bone, balanced by the chin).  If he is using a shoulder rest, make sure it fits.   Ask his teacher to check his posture.

Warrrren

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發表於 05-12-3 14:05 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

THRY 寫道:
My son is using left shoulder for '夾琴', 夾琴時左肩會向上提升, 至右肩向下, 日子有工, 產生右背肩胛骨比左邊(特), that's my assumption only, any comment

THRY,

請問你個仔幾多歲?因為有些小朋友是會有脊柱側彎,程度有輕微及嚴重,與拉小提琴無關,女孩子在發育期特別容易發覺,男孩子亦會有機會,不過比較少。在小學、中學生的健康檢查中,有為他們量度,你的小朋友在檢查中有沒有發現?或你要提一提護士小朋友的情形,他們會另外跟進。

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發表於 05-12-3 21:37 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

yk,

Thanks for your valuable info.

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發表於 05-12-3 21:44 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

Bluestar,

貝多芬的真正死因是「慢性鉛中毒」(Leading Poisoning)。 可能亦是他致聾的原因。

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發表於 05-12-4 00:24 |只看該作者

Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

tlwtlw888 寫道:
Bluestar,

貝多芬的真正死因是「慢性鉛中毒」(Leading Poisoning)。 可能亦是他致聾的原因。

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Re: 學小提琴會影響體型???

tlwtlw888,

Tks for the info.  Most interesting.
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